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rduncan
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Posted: 2006-04-10 17:51
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No P990 for the U.S. market?!?

Bad news after visiting the SE booth at CTIA 2006 last week (CTIA is the biggest mobile show in the U.S., covering all mobile technologies, not just GSM): the SE rep there shared his disappointment that the P990 is not coming to the U.S. market, as the major GSM companies have declined to purchase it (start sending cards and letters now!). Although one can purchase a European version of the phone (as many have done before), this will not provide optimal radio performance in the US markets and will lack 3G in the U.S.:
- lacks 850 MHz band widely used by Cingular
(and remember, lower frequencies are better,
delivering better indoor signal)
- lacks U.S. 3G bands
since U.S. does not use the same 2150 MHz 3G bands used in Europe

So, we're left with a choice of purchasing a European version that has improved UI and additional features, but no 3G and poorer radio performance. NOT FOR ME,s adly, as I had made up my mind that this was my next phone, and was holding out for it, as many of you are.

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Posted: 2006-04-10 18:50
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Hey hey people so much for it being available in UAE. My brother has just been over there and it will not be released in there or in any place for at least a month. So any site claiming to have it will be a scam. Sorry to disapoint.
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Posted: 2006-04-11 00:10
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Has the US even formally chosen which band they'll be doing 3g on?
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Posted: 2006-04-11 00:29
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@ .tibbsy. - thats comes as no surprise to me. Im sure if the phone was about ready for release, we'd also hear about it showing up elsewhere and not just in UAE.

Its a shame, even though im happy to wait for the phone if i do decide to buy it (im still unsure), because by the time the summer comes the N80 and Nokias E series will be upon us and the P990i might just get washed away by its competitors.
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Posted: 2006-04-11 03:22
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On 2006-04-11 00:29:56, etaab wrote:
Its a shame, even though im happy to wait for the phone if i do decide to buy it (im still unsure), because by the time the summer comes the N80 and Nokias E series will be upon us and the P990i might just get washed away by its competitors.




Lets just hope that providers worldwide will support the Blackberry PIN features of this device over the Nokia E61. Push email support via BES is a HUGE factor worth waiting for, and COMPLETE BES provisioning as if it was a BB 7290/8700 over the BES+wireless provider network is worth the wait.

I'd just wish SE had a black model with 850/1900mhz (either) for WCDMA support for the America's even if 850mhz for voice calls wasnt there.
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Posted: 2006-04-11 11:09
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On 2006-04-11 00:29:56, etaab wrote:
@ .tibbsy. - thats comes as no surprise to me. Im sure if the phone was about ready for release, we'd also hear about it showing up elsewhere and not just in UAE.

Its a shame, even though im happy to wait for the phone if i do decide to buy it (im still unsure), because by the time the summer comes the N80 and Nokias E series will be upon us and the P990i might just get washed away by its competitors.




I work in London and I have noticed that more people use the P9xx than any other Smartphone (the Jam is also popular). I know many current P9xx users that are waiting for the P990. So I would have thought SE could rely on their existing customer base for replacement sales which could be as high as 1m units.
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Posted: 2006-04-11 12:36
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rduncan is right, p990 is not even on the se us site

look here
http://www.sonyericsson.com/s[....]000&template=pp1&zone=pp&lm=pp [addsig]
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Posted: 2006-04-11 13:07
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US networks don't want the P990. So US customers will have to risk using imported P990s on US GSM networks. SE, unlike Nokia, don't seem to have much traction with US networks. We are so luck in Europe that we can use many SIM free devices on GSM/UMTS networks.
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Skills
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Posted: 2006-04-11 13:41
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Carphonewarehouse seems to think a MAY release is on the cards... http://www.carphonewarehouse.[....]RTICLE=MOBILECONTENT.CS.SEP990
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Posted: 2006-04-11 13:56
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Lets just hope that providers worldwide will support the Blackberry PIN features of this device over the Nokia E61. Push email support via BES is a HUGE factor worth waiting for, and COMPLETE BES provisioning as if it was a BB 7290/8700 over the BES+wireless provider network is worth the wait.

I'd just wish SE had a black model with 850/1900mhz (either) for WCDMA support for the America's even if 850mhz for voice calls wasnt there.




Hi, 1 thing for sure about BB Connect is that different manufacturers are implementing it differently. In my corporate, I had setup and supported BB Connect on 3 models of phones, namely P910i, NK9300 and NK9500. Of the 3, P910i has the best implementation, simply because it stays true to RIM's own BB Devices implementation, and all Outlook email folders are properly redirected into their own respective folders. E.g., if you have created 10 new folders within your mailbox (must be at the same level as Inbox, Sent, etc folders), your BB Connect on your P910i will also create these 10 folders inside the Blackberry mailbox on the P910i and properly redirect those incoming emails that may have certain rules set on Outlook to be redirected accordingly.

On the 9300/9500, no folders folders will be created and all incoming emails whether or not there are rules being set to be redirected, will be made available only in the inbox of the Blackberry mailbox. This causes lots of confusion the users.

Hence, I believe SE will continue to stay true with the Blackberry Connect software for their P990i and I suspect NK E series will be somewhat the same as 9300/9500. If anyone wishes to use Blackberry on their phones, then I would suggest to wait a little for the P990i before jumping over to the E series.
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Posted: 2006-04-11 14:34
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Rduncan,

I believe that from day one, SE has stated that they will be concentrating on the P990i and P990c first.

[ This Message was edited by: xtemujin on 2006-04-11 13:36 ]
JBoogie
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Posted: 2006-04-11 22:45
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On 2006-04-11 13:07:10, Jah wrote:
US networks don't want the P990. So US customers will have to risk using imported P990s on US GSM networks. SE, unlike Nokia, don't seem to have much traction with US networks. We are so luck in Europe that we can use many SIM free devices on GSM/UMTS networks.




From what SE has told me regarding this, it appears that they are waiting for Cingular and T-Mobile to get their UMTS US rollout further than what it currently is. It appears that Cingular is currently ahead of T-Mobile in their UMTS rollout and is expected to have it in full swing by the end of 2006 or early 2007. I suspect then we'll start hearing a different tune from SE regarding a North America version of the P990.
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Posted: 2006-04-12 01:57
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I work in London and I have noticed that more people use the P9xx than any other Smartphone (the Jam is also popular). I know many current P9xx users that are waiting for the P990. So I would have thought SE could rely on their existing customer base for replacement sales which could be as high as 1m units.



I've got a Jasjar (SPV M5000) & I will probaly change it for the P990 simfree when it comes out due to the slow bootup times plus I miss my jogdial from my P910, I like my Jasjar but it's too much of a brick to live with plus its not that much better than my P910. I only got the Jasjar as I got sick of waiting for SE to release the P990 as my upgrade was October I lasted until Feb before I could wait no longer. I would go back to using my P800 but it's so dated now I should really sell it but I can't be bothered so it just sits in it's original packaging, at least I get my daily SE fix from my T68i

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Posted: 2006-04-14 16:22
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Good morning everyone, I am an old member although I haven’t place many posts.
My location is in Greece for now, and I work in a third party company witch is repairing and reprogramming mobile telecommunication devises. Maybe known by you as <<9volto>>.
So I should cut it out with the prologue and lets get to the theme, yesterday evening one of my suppliers witch had visit Cbit came to the company holding at his hands… guess what,
A brand new P990i …
I felt very happy that at last I could at least see and touch the devise, even if it wasn’t one of mine…
At the back of the phone was written PROTOTYPE HF1 and there was a bizarre IMEI with only 8 digits.
For various reasons my supplier couldn’t stay for long, so I didn’t have much time to play with the menu of the phone, although the device crashed two times in my hands and without opening any serious app.
Well here is a small conclusion: In the first place I can not tell that the new style is the kind that I prefer, nothing to do with p900 or p910 witch I like most.
The back side of the devise and the opening flip are looking so cheap, especially the inside keyboard that is made of rubber and it reminds me some old nokia phones were by the time the paint went off. (may be only the prototype is having this in the photos at SE site looks deferent to me).
An other thing is that the only one left led is maybe for the wifi (I loved the two flashing leds in my p910) I didn’t saw it flash when the phone catch up the signal.
And now some good stuff : The screen uaoooo marvelous the colors and the brightness are terrific, the front side of the phone is made from a kind of metallic thing,
Like the cover of p910’s earphone look very good,(not like the cheap back).
The jog dial and the pen are mach stronger, and the camera sows a very good capturing of image even in video mode.
That was all I manage to check in the few minutes that he gave me the phone, I am sorry for the very few things but the time was sort.
Before leaving he tolled me that he paid 750euros to take it.

If he comes again one of this days I will check more things and post back.
(but my opinion is that p910 is MUCH MORE BEAUTIFUL)
Hay to all SE funs p910i is the best. (I am here to help if I can...)
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mathios
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Posted: 2006-04-14 17:49
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