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Sony Ericsson W960i Discussion |
donchente
Joined: Sep 24, 2007
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guess what ? its official its comung out in !!!!!!!january!!!! damn!!!!!! check 4 ur self!!
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defiantbeast
Joined: Jul 11, 2007
Posts: 257
From: Philadelphia USA
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@Dogmann
Well it has finally happened for the few months that i have been a member at esato i have managed to avoid this moment but i finally typed something that the great dogmann disagrees with, i have angered the heavens and now must defend myself.....
ok, Im not making up a battery problem i am simply pointing out a know and often complained about problem with the nokia n95 8gb, yes it has more power than the n95 however it has only 25% more power, which for a phone that was known to not be able to make it thru a full day with its mighty a.i. like processor giving you the speed that you crave, and its media center blasting away music into bleeding ears with it all powerful chip, how much more time does that 25% give you. Not to mention that its newer features drain even more power. "The handset utilizes a 1200 mAh Li-Ion battery (BL-6F), whereas the Nokia N95 comes packaged with a 950 mAh Li-Pol unit (BL-5F), meaning that the 8Gb edition can carry almost 25 percent more juice, which allow it to work longer hours, but there are some new power consumers in the N95 8Gb as well – enhanced display and louder speakers." direct quote from mobile-review. With so much free ram it will perform interpretive dance for you, while it cook your meals and serves them to you.
I am not inventing problems and i am very grounded in reality. I am so grounded in reality that i myself admitted that:
"yes the w960i has its faults, yes it recycled technology. However se was at the top of its game when it designed the walkman brand and even after recycling the tech for the 960i it still manages to be a pretty impressive music phone and video player. With a 3.2 mp camera it still manages to beat most other phones with the exception of what maybe 6 phones, green tint and all(im hoping that this will not be a problem after the delay).
I openly admitted that there are a few phones out there that have better specs and are more powerful. Had you read what i wrote you would understand that i simply think despite all the faults that can be pointed out and the fact the yes it is recycled tech its still in the top 90% percent of phones out there now. For someone who is fond of telling others to check there facts and stop being a fan boy you might do well to pursue your own advice. People who live in glass houses ought not chuck heavy stones. |
Dogmann
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
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From: London England
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@ares
How about comparing like for like oh no sorry you can't do that as the W960 before release doesn't have an up to date spec anyway does it? it's still that old Nexperia chip from 2006 and the P990 all it has is an extra 64mb of Ram and some extra shortcuts.
But lets try shall we the N95 8GB has a 25% bigger battery that gives 50% approx longer life it also has 128mb RAM and has over 90MB free Ram on boot up and due to Demand Paging uses that RAM more efficiently doesn't it. So even with the same amount of installed Ram it has 20mb more not forgetting the N95 8gb boots in 22seconds whilst the W960 what 60 seconds or more and all apps on the N95 8GB open instantly unlike UIQ3 where even messaging takes what 3-5 seconds.
As otherwise why would you be moaning that if Nokia can give it the original N95 why can' SE do the same for UIQ3 users that are desperately short of Ram and to whom Demand paging would really be of use.
@defiantbeast
Well unfortunately you have missed one vital point the N95 8gb also has Demand paging something that was not expected to be seen till Symbian 9.3 or 9.5, in simple English what this means is that it gives better battery consumption and also uses the Ram more efficiently and performs faster. This is also now applicable to the original N95 also.
I also seem to remember many complaints from UIQ3 users about there poor battery life not of course forgetting the BST-40 that was meant to ship with the P990 and then became a typo. It then took a year to appear as available for purchase. Even the new UIQ3 devices can't match the N95 poor battery life as you put and they merely have a 262k screen and 208mhz processor.
Listen everyone is free to buy what ever they want i only really respond to this lubricious and unsubstantiated claims that all these SE devices are going to be the best. Although this was once true of the great Ericsson and even SE this is no longer the case and more the pity it isn't.
Marc
PS I am Dogmann not so sure about the great and definitely not in the heavens yet. Oh and as Public Enemy sang " Don't believe the hype" as i am neither as nasty of fearsome as some would have you believe either. I also do not hate SE or love any other manfactuer either!
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defiantbeast
Joined: Jul 11, 2007
Posts: 257
From: Philadelphia USA
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@dogmann
Well tank u for pudding tings in simple english 4 me. Jus 1 ting that i tink you keep missing, i never claimed the w960i to be better than anything i simply stated that even with all its problems it still manages to be able to compete with 90% percent of the phones available today. Thats it. And yes you are right one should not buy into the hype, one should also keep from creating hype as i never made any "lubricious" claims that anything was the best." The blade cannot tell itself it is sharp"
Ps Public enemy rapped it not sang it
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ljf881
Joined: Jun 10, 2004
Posts: 105
From: Sweden
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I went to a Telia-shop here in Sweden (Telia is one of the operators) and they will start to sell the phone on monday the 3rd of December.
They had a fake w960 there for show and it was a surprise for me how elegant the phone is. Much thinner and a little bit smaller than I expected. I think it will be a hit...
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ares
Joined: Dec 11, 2003
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From: Coimbra, Portugal
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doggman, ...i just showed how you put a blatant lie in the middle of one of your posts, and then you come with yet another load of bs, talking about different things: first you compared n95 classic and w960, and, and you LIED about the RAM issue, now you talk about the n95 8gb, because it suits you better. Its hardly a surprise to see you doing this, yet again, but seeing how you act after like you did nothing is just amazing...
edit: personal remarks removed
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Ake
Joined: Nov 12, 2007
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@donchente Seems to only be the UK sorry, Telia said 3/12 and i just came from The phone house who said it could be any day now even tomorrow xD
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QVGA
Joined: May 23, 2006
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From: Pakistan
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On 2007-11-27 20:23:46, NightBlade wrote:
The DSP chip doesn't do too much for the audio. It's like having a sound card for your computer. Utterly useless unless you have a 7.1 surround sound setup, as the processor can handle simple stereo sound reproduction by itself easily. (a sound card wouldn't enhance the quality of the sound output)
[ This Message was edited by: NightBlade on 2007-11-27 19:24 ]
you computer knowledge is worse than a retarded 2yr old. seriously, when you dont know anything about what u say, better not say anything at all.
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Dogmann
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
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From: London England
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OK Ares
Lets look at these points one by one for clarification shall we to see why or how you may be confused.
First point is i have not compared the N95 Classic as it doesn't have either 128mb Ram or a 8GB flash drive and if i have please show me where as i went back to page 93 and could see nothing so it appears you are mistaken so please retract calling me a liar as you are incorrect.
Second point i didn't lie about the ram issue i mentioned that the original N95 due to demand paging in the new firmware has increased it's free Ram from just over 20mb to just over 30mb and in my world that is an increase of approx 50% so now that's not a lie either is it?
So Ares please show me where i compared the original N95 and not the N95 8GB as you are happy to claim? or if you are big enough apologise for your very obvious mistakes and your personal insults now removed and calling me a don't call me a liar unless you can prove it.
Actaully i have just spotted my mistake and if you had pointed it out politly with out abuse i would of corrected it as that line belongs to the N95 8gb not the original which is what i have been compareing the W960 to as both have 128mb of RAM and a 8GB flash drive so is only logical eapecially as both are also Multimedia smart phones.
I have no apologised and corrected my error with out the need to abuse or insult anyone, it would be nice if we could all debate the pro's and con's of devcies without the need to resort to insults and if we spot an error piont it out to the poster nicely.
Marc
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goldenface
Joined: Dec 17, 2003
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From: Liverpool City Centre
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While the accusations continue flying it might be good at this stage to remind ourselves what the title of the thread is.
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dragon546
Joined: Sep 09, 2007
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From: Sutton, Surrey, UK
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So golden which market is this phone targeted at then? It seems like a Walkman phone with smartphone tendencies . Media types? or more your techie types rather than the suits? |
ares
Joined: Dec 11, 2003
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From: Coimbra, Portugal
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Mr Doggman, i pointed it to you correctly (i used a nice quote)...i also did not insult you. If i am sometimes too harsh, its because of your past behavior. Nice to see you finally admitting an error. If you want to be seen has an unbiased person, try starting acting like that.
Now, back to topic,
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goldenface
Joined: Dec 17, 2003
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From: Liverpool City Centre
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On 2007-11-28 17:05:27, dragon546 wrote:
So golden which market is this phone targeted at then? It seems like a Walkman phone with smartphone tendencies .
Thats exectly what it is. Its not that far removed from the P1i. SE has just adapted its smarthone UI for music lovers with this.
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defiantbeast
Joined: Jul 11, 2007
Posts: 257
From: Philadelphia USA
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Im sorry if i came off topic a bit. I would say its definitely targeted to the media junkies, thats why the cosmetic split between the p1i. It also has some buisness uses which is a great bonus. I just hope that now that ive gotten use to writing with the p1i's qwerty the transition isnt to hard.
@dogmann
Listen or rather read that im really not trying to insult im just very sarcastic when i debate, and i love a good debate. I have an edge to my words just as you do. |
Dogmann
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
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From: London England
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@Ares
If you check this forum you will find if and when i make a mistake i always apologise to the entire Forum as soon as i become aware of it. Anyway this is the new improved Dogmann hope you enjoy it, my opinons will not change just how i put them across will.
@defiantbeast
Actually i hadn't said anything in response to your last post and defiantly never suggested you said it was the best either.
But you are correct they did rap it not sing it, but is rapping not singing as even then it's still a rap song? and is a song not sung?
I love sarcasm as it is one of the higher forms of humour and have a very dry sense of humour myself.
Marc
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