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carkitter
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Err... NHL? Is that hockey? I liked to play hockey at intermediate school but got put off by other kids who thought that the follow through should be like that of golf.
Are you into summer hockey or Ice Hockey?
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Gigs
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Is hockey indeed, ice hockey definately. Though my old next door neighbour played field hockey in either the olympic team or something hehe forget now.
Got hooked while in canada, though I have to say after watching Canadian football and American football, rugby is an absolute delight.
How anyone can claim running 5 steps and being tackled is something worthy of a show and dance i'll never know.
Unfortunately had the tennis on yesterday as well. 
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carkitter
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I heard that the NZ Ice Hockey champs was/is on at Paradise Ice in East Tamaki (Auckland). Did you have a look?
I've got my head around Grid Iron now and I do Like it. It's a strategy game rather than a action game, like comparing Cricket to Baseball.
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Gigs
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No I missed them.. (again) lol
Probably a good thing, paradice and me don't mix so well. (love the game, can't balance for crap )
yeah, Gi is alot more intense in the strategy dept, just could never get into it, too stop/starty for me..
Well that and the padding.. eesh
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citysoldier
Joined: May 15, 2005
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Guy in one of those vodafone stores said the k750 is gonna come out around the time vodafone releases 3g. I want the k750 but I dunno if I will regret not getting a 3g phone. Anyone know if any good 3g phones are gonna come out here? |
carkitter
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Find answer here:
http://www.sonyericsson.com
and here:
http://www.parallelimported.co.nz
Note:K750i now $789 at P.I. S700i bargain at $649!
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citysoldier
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I saw in the dominion post the k750 was $699 at parallel imports.
I dont know but I heard vodafone was only going to bring out nokia 3g handsets. Maybe it was just to begin with? |
Gigs
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V800 will be and I'd imagine the V600i should be out on Vodafone when they release the 3G network, according to  anyhow.
Hmm if voda are saying they're coming out the same time then that would make 3G being available in July?!
TBH until we see what their 3G dataplans and incentives are, its not going to be a big deal if you don't have 3G IMO.
If you're a heavy data user then it might become essential.
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carkitter
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Called in to Sony Style in Newmarket yesterday.
Rep said that the K750i would be out 'officially' later this month. I also went to PI East Tamaki and saw the K750i for $699. MyMobile have a review of the K750i and quote an RRP of $749.
SS said not to expect W800 til October! Betcha PI have it within 2 weeks of overseas release as with K750i.  SS quoted a RRP price of $800 for a 2GB memory stick duo and an estimated price of $1700 for the upcoming 4GB duo!
Have Vodafone NZ and Sony NZ lost the plot? How do they expect to sell ANY product at these prices and with these release delays?
Parallel Imported must be laughing all the way to the bank!
K700i now $399 at PI (they had an ex-demo unboxed model for $300!)
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Gigs
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Hmm $50 more for a 1 year warranty and support from nz? That doesn't seem outrageous to me 
Remember PI's charge you for the full 1 year warranty that all products come with as standard.
That 2gb ms duo pro seems right, the PI's are selling 512's for 200 so * 4 = 800.
Not bad!
Have been told september for the W800i, so doesn't seem to far off.  They might have said October just to be safe.
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carkitter
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It may only be $50 on the brand new K750i, but it's $100 on the K700i and $150 on the S700. Sony Style Newmarket still have a $799 price tag on thier K700i.
Vodafone have a RRP of $1000 still on the V3 but PI are selling the silver V3 for $589, the black one for a little bit more.
Who know what price PI get thier stock at, but that's beside the point.
Vodafone NZ would probably pay the same or less and that means that they're making a killing on the handsets as well as charging us some of the highest data rates and mobile phone plans in the world.
Just ask the commerce commision.
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Gigs
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Yes and No.. You're failing to take into account the fact that when buying overseas PI's can also buy from sources that subsidize the phones.
In the early days of vodafone they used to subsidize the cost of the handsets and so we ended up paying less, it helped them get their share of the market.
If you buy from overseas where the price maybe subsidized then you're already making something on it.
I highly doubt they're going through an official distributer to get stuff. Hell we never used to when I did PC imports. Yet the sources we used were very cheap. (Though eventually delt with a couple of manufacturers)
I myself doubt voda are getting the same price point as the PI's, thats part of what makes PI's attractive.
BTW new handsets are always going to be more expensive than previous versions so whats the point there.
For $100 more than the K700i you're getting alot more phone.
When I got out of selling PC hardware (and we were doing cellphones too) the margins weren't anything like 50% on products. nokia yes, because they were cheap as hell at the time. The only problem was that never lasted so you could get burnt pretty easily, 's sold pretty steadily. Unless you were prepared to slash your margins to almost nothing, then it was very hard to compete against parallel importers. |
carkitter
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...BTW new handsets are always going to be more expensive than previous versions so whats the point there.
For $100 more than the K700i you're getting alot more phone...
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I made a mistake, Vodafone have different prices for the Silver vs the Black Motorola V3. The silver V3 is $310 cheaper at PI, the black version is about $410 cheaper.
I didn't make myself clear:
K700i is $100 cheaper at PI than VF
K700i is $400 cheaper at PI than SS NMKT
S700i is $150 cheaper at PI than VF
$699 buys you a K750 at PI. $799 buys you a K700 at SS NMKT or a S700 at VF, with K750 unavailable at both; which would you buy?
I dont like the whole concept of parallel importation of goods.
It destroyed NZ's automobile assembly industry.
The 1990's National government headed in this direction, then the current Labour government sped it up and savaged many manufacturing and value adding business' by legalising parallel importation of goods.
There is nothing wrong with the company 'Parallel Imported'. Good Luck to them!
The trouble is that VodafoneNZ and SENZ have seemingly put thier heads in the sand and have forgotten that we live in a Global Community now. NZ has a high degree of internet users and people who will go out of thier way to find a bargain. The SS nmkt staff member I spoke to, said that SENZ wanted to wait and see how the sales of K750 went overseas before releasing here as NZ sales of S700 had been disappionting. Hello! S700 on release sold for $1599, as NZ's most expensive non-PDA it was $400 more expensive than the next most expensive (admittedly less featured) non-PDA phone!
I believe it's now PI who is driving the retail cellular market in NZ and the reason behind VodafoneNZ's recent price drops.
I may have an opportunity to present these concerns to SE. I'd like to see them lift thier game other wise PI will make them irrelevant.
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JForce
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Hey Gigs, how's things? Good to see McLaren finally learnt how to make a car, even if their tyres aren't very good...better not be on Michelins, make sure....
And of course remember the advice an old master gave you once...he paid for his mistakes with blood, do not make those same mistakes again
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Gigs
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forcie!
You missed a hella paintball game you gimp!
yeah the racing has been alot more enjoyable this season, been missing some of the races. :/
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