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1.3 mp ccd (S700i) or 2.0 mp cmos (k750i) |
sapibobo
Joined: Dec 25, 2002
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From: Indonesia
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Tea? Nice idea. I would like to. This discussion is leading to direction i do not want it to be. (it quite hot in here!). |
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ares
Joined: Dec 11, 2003
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From: Coimbra, Portugal
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@sapibobo, all right  I´m cool  I just wanted to say i have some knowledge about the subject to back my opinion And you have your opinon, i respect that
Have a nice weekend
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sapibobo
Joined: Dec 25, 2002
Posts: 214
From: Indonesia
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@Arez : Alil bit out of the topic, BTW what is the latest camera firmware for K700?
I am wondering why SE didnt upgrade the cam version of S700. Just want to make comparison. |
numb
Joined: Feb 07, 2005
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#sapibobo
not offended at all, I know how it is when one gets exited about a subject, do it myself, and I highly respect your opinions and observations which I feel are very valid
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goldenface
Joined: Dec 17, 2003
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From: Liverpool City Centre
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Well said Numb. Nice to read good opinions. I like learning from people. Its what keeps our minds alive.  |
Vipera ammodytes
Joined: Sep 22, 2004
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From: Serbia
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I am wondering why SE didnt upgrade the cam version of S700. Just want to make comparison.
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actually SE has two new models with same form(Ellen,???????????) Ellen with 2mpx and one with 3mpx ccd sensor!!!! Same with new P-series!!!!
Sasha-SE
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sapibobo
Joined: Dec 25, 2002
Posts: 214
From: Indonesia
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@sasha: what i mean is the camera software version IN s700. I am not talking about its successor. I think you misread my post.
@numb : thanks. Just want to brainstorming everyone here so we as customer will quite aware the worst possibility before making buying decision.
@goldenface : is that what makes esato so great? I learn and grow with it.
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etaab
Joined: Jan 23, 2004
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From: UK - South Yorkshire
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On 2005-04-15 18:51:29, REO wrote:
Do you own a K750?
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No.
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On 2005-04-15 18:51:29, REO wrote:
What the hell do you know, other than everything you read and spit out as if you were a subject expert on the K750.
The phone isn't even out.
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And your point is what exactly ?
We all know its not out, however, what we do know for fact is that the K750 does produce higher quality images than the S700i. I dont see why people like you have such a problem grasping such a simple premise.
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On 2005-04-15 18:51:29, REO wrote:
Buy it, try it, and then put your money where your mouth is.
At least the S700 owners can talk and brag. They have the unit.
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Im sure i will once the K750 is released, and then i can brag about owning one.
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On 2005-04-15 18:51:29, REO wrote:
You are just talking out of your mouth on every topic.
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Of which im proud of, id rather talk out of my mouth, rather than my ass like you. 
Hey, look, i just sank to your level and posted with no relevance to the topic, but simply to retaliate ! 
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firerock
Joined: May 02, 2002
Posts: 14
From: Los Angeles, USA
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Okay, let me put my 2 cents into these "Auto-focus" discussion. If SE is really using the software trick to blur out the background, then the process of taking the photo and storing it would take a long time. The phone has to take the photo, process and blur out the non-focused area, then store it in its ram(before storing it to the memory card).
On the other hand, if the phone actually have the auto-focusing function/lens, then the process would be simple and fast. So, unless we have the actual product in our hand to test out the function, it's hard to say. But I doubt SE would want to incorporate AF by software because it will take more than a second or two to show the photo result.
Say, if all the AF is done in the software, then, it is a shame that SE don't incorporate that function into s700. But it is all comes down to business. I would love to blame SE, but they need to attract more attention to their new phones. Or maybe, k750/w800 has faster chip so they can process the feature fast and accurate? Who knows?!
But from all the news on the web, it seems like AF for real to though... |
etaab
Joined: Jan 23, 2004
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From: UK - South Yorkshire
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From previews ive read from sites such as Mobileburn et al - they say it takes about 1 second to save an image to the MSPD stick.
Thats pretty fast, so i cannot see the AF being software only.
Ive never believed it to be software only either.
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REO
Joined: Nov 21, 2004
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From: U.S.A.
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@ etaab AH
I just purchased the S 710a. Since I have money to splurge unlike you.
You looser, you spend all day in forums. get a real job you bum.
Any way when the K750 and the W800 come out. I will purchase both.
I will make real comparisons, unlike you. you're a dumbass that repeats what others have written. experience it yourself. Stop talking out of your a$$.
Moron...
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sapibobo
Joined: Dec 25, 2002
Posts: 214
From: Indonesia
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@etaab and firerock :
I can only suggest you to learn the way Nokia 6630 handle the image.
Nokia 6630 focusing the image and digitizing it after the picture was taken. It only needs 1 second. You can see the different between the viewfinder (as you chose the object) and the final result (after you pressed shutter button). The viewfinder looks a bit blurry but right away after you press the shutter the picture looks much sharper. This process is similar (not exactly the same) with AF in K750, the different is K750 let you preview the result simultaneously before press the shutter button.
And using sharpening layer or backgrounding elements in a image to process it in a PC just need seconds. Pretty fast.
It doesnt take much time to processing the image, especially at the level 200-300 kb produced by camera phones. The file is quite small for current digital camera standard.
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phsychomantis
Joined: Jan 24, 2005
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in the comparison by gsm arena s700 is beaten even by nokia 6630 in taking photos in interiors or artificial lights. |
numb
Joined: Feb 07, 2005
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yes, if using autosettings, then sometimes n6630 takes better pictures under inferior conditions than s700. But S700 has the ability to compensate/optimise for conditions using manuel settings, the n6630 doesnt. Therefore in most (not all) situations you will be able to get the best shots using s700 if you try. Both take good pictures, which is better depends on if you are a "point and click only" type of guy or one that dont mind spending an extra 2 sec. selecting the right settings manually.
But since this topic is:
1.3 mp ccd (S700i) or 2.0 mp cmos (k750i)
then lets not turn this into another s700 vs n6630 debate.
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goldenface
Joined: Dec 17, 2003
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From: Liverpool City Centre
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REO has the 710   Any questions about this phone ask him! 
Isn't AutoFocus a lot more than simply making a picture blurry?
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