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c96sthl
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Ericsson owned the most 2G/2.5G/3G patent.
Those area will not be known by us because it is regarding how the phone communicate with mobile network.
This was always stated in Ericsson press release.
The best rumour I heard a bout speciality of E/// phone compare to others is tht when our phone was idle for certain time (sleep mode)....E/// or Se phone is actually partially connected to the network to reduce the power consumption???( He said tht's the reason most E/// phone have long stand by) but the downside is that we didn't have a good reception in certain area....sound very logical but I never get a confirmation, since I am more interested in mechanical thing 
The thing i remember best if using 4 line grey scale....I remember till now not all Nokia phone (without colour) is using this and the implementation of EL-Foil (name could be wrong) as the way to have backlight is not found in Nokia phoen as well...the latter which is found in R520, T28 and T39 really give a comfortable LCD screen to the user, no more visible light source. E/// T39 and R520 also are the first to get syncML certified. If R520's motion sensor is not found in other phone, then it could be the first phone to have those....so far my memory tell me its the first (anyone can confirm tht?)
BTW Sony Ericsson is just using their patent(e///) to develope their phone.
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jplacson
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@orange, first of all, those "features" were not invented by Nokia. Nokia has had NO contributions to the technology of mobile phone whatsoever. All they do is use existing technology, and most of the time, obsolete technology.
Ericsson has pioneered most GSM based (if not radio based) technologies, cuz that's what they do. Nokia made plastic boots up until 1992 I think.
Ericsson was one of the first to standardize tri-bad chips in their GSM phones, they pioneered & co-developed Li-Pol batteries which Nokia still has discover. /// also invented Bluetooth. They also had the unified accessory connector long before Nokia did. They were the first GSM phone with a camera attachment. They also pioneered a lot of the standards used in current 2/2.5 and 3G technologies, specifically the radio transmitters used in the phones base stations. SE is one of the first to successfully have a dual-mode GSM/3G celfone. /// also was one of the first to release (and also co-developed) GPRS systems.
Nokia did nothing to push the industry forward. Like I said in a previous post... Nokia phones are decent. The ONLY reason I don't like Nokia is not cuz of the products they make, but because of the company behind them. I don't support the practice of 'suckering' the consumer into buying old technology at a higher price. If Nokia slashed all their prices by at LEAST 50%, I'd feel like they weren't fooling the public as much...but hey, business is business right? And since there's one born every minute, why not take advantage of them right? Well, Nokia does. I for one, still believe in good business ethics. Make a GOOD product at a FAIR price... but hey, that's me. |
sking1547
Joined: Nov 20, 2002
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All the latest nokia phones lack voice functions calling cards and the screen is much smaller. Stay away from nokia. You will also have problems with downloading from other sites.
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mariolouis
Joined: Nov 17, 2002
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well.. it wouldn't be "phone of the year" if it does not stood up to it, now would it?
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ynohtna
Joined: Dec 27, 2002
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Well im not sure if nokia/SE would allow microsoft to have a small share in the pie especialy SE for its technology.I do hope SE uses other OS other than microsoft in the future.Why?Look what microsoft did to sendo and their smartphone z100.Would nokia ane Se allow that to happen to them?I dont think so.
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c96sthl
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ynohtna
SE is still using Symbian. Ericsson used to have a project working with Microsoft but last press conference in E/// show they stop it.
tht's what everyone afraid of hehe...especially when their winNT also failed to live up to its claim as the most robust OS.
BTW, I suspect Ericsson is the company who introduce Prepaid system because the first company in Malaysia to introduce Pre-paid are DIGI...which partner is Swisscom back in 1997~2000 and both are using Ericsson network equipment. During that time, I recall most of the nokia phone didn't offer function to show call time left.
Ericsson is the company who proposed the two following std...MMS and GSM850 (For TDMA network migration)
Tht's why most MMS service are using Ericsson equipment and a lot of those company who sell Nokia pic or ringtone do use Ericsson solution. |
WoeDee
Joined: Nov 23, 2002
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I am amazed by the quality of the devices that Sony Ericsson is producing. I went from Nokia to Samsung, Back to Nokia and finally Sony Ericsson. The t68i is a great phone but the P800, OMG......the best thats out there for the time being. If you have the resources, do yourself a favour and pick up one of these puppies ASAP!
lets go!!: http://dunz.ath.cx:7000/foo |
jplacson
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On 2003-02-03 19:45, mariolouis wrote:
well.. it wouldn't be "phone of the year" if it does not stood up to it, now would it?
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Well, just cuz Toyota sells more cars than Ferrari, doesn't mean a Toyota is BETTER than a Ferrari now does it?  Difference is, Toyota doesn't price themselves in the same class as Ferrari...unlike Nokia.
WoeDee... welcome to Esato, and the 'hi-tech' world of SE! |
brick
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On 2003-02-03 19:09, jplacson wrote:
@orange, first of all, those "features" were not invented by Nokia. Nokia has had NO contributions to the technology of mobile phone whatsoever. All they do is use existing technology, and most of the time, obsolete technology.
Ericsson has pioneered most GSM based (if not radio based) technologies, cuz that's what they do. Nokia made plastic boots up until 1992 I think.
Ericsson was one of the first to standardize tri-bad chips in their GSM phones, they pioneered & co-developed Li-Pol batteries which Nokia still has discover. /// also invented Bluetooth. They also had the unified accessory connector long before Nokia did. They were the first GSM phone with a camera attachment. They also pioneered a lot of the standards used in current 2/2.5 and 3G technologies, specifically the radio transmitters used in the phones base stations. SE is one of the first to successfully have a dual-mode GSM/3G celfone. /// also was one of the first to release (and also co-developed) GPRS systems. |
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Yup, that's what I read too. Ericsson, as a mobile communication company is responsible for most of the mobile technology out there. Nokia just adapts the technology in its own phones and sell them in a nice package. They end up making more out of it even though they probably have to pay patent. Ericsson earns patents to fuel its research and development, and Nokia earns more than thrice that to continue giving us ugly bright looking plastic covers.
Now tell us if there IS a reason why we tend to hate Nokia with passion. |
orange
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On 2003-02-03 19:09, jplacson wrote:
@orange, first of all, those "features" were not invented by Nokia. Nokia has had NO contributions to the technology of mobile phone whatsoever. All they do is use existing technology, and most of the time, obsolete technology.
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I guess you didn't read my previous post at all. I wasn't talking about what is invented by whom and who got it first in their products, but what they got NOW! Clear enough!?!?
And what you said in your post, I guess you don't know anything about DRM, COD or e-commerce. Could you tell me from what mobile vendor Nokia has adapted those technologies? |
brick
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Well, e-wallet is so popular here in Asia Nokia doesn't even release the models which support e-wallet here! |
orange
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On 2003-02-04 02:50, c96sthl wrote:
ynohtna
Tht's why most MMS service are using Ericsson equipment and a lot of those company who sell Nokia pic or ringtone do use Ericsson solution.
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According to the latest figures, Nokia has 50 MMS deals and Ericsson has 47. Together they have about 70 % of the deals. So I don't quite get why you're saying "most MMS service are using Ericsson equipment". |
brick
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It's probably the 'behind-the-scene' network equipment and not the physical mobile phone units being sold to telcos to promote MMS. Nokia may be the king in the handset market, but telco network equipement and stuff is clearly more of Ericsson's playground than Nokia's. |
orange
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On 2003-02-04 09:33, brick wrote:
It's probably the 'behind-the-scene' network equipment and not the physical mobile phone units being sold to telcos to promote MMS. Nokia may be the king in the handset market, but telco network equipement and stuff is clearly more of Ericsson's playground than Nokia's.
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I wasn't talking about the terminals, but MMSC's (Multimedia Messaging Service Center). In the terminal side E/SE is not even close. |
brick
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On 2003-02-04 09:45, orange wrote:
I wasn't talking about the terminals, but MMSC's (Multimedia Messaging Service Center). In the terminal side E/SE is not even close.
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Don't know if we are talking about the same thing: http://www.ericsson.com/network_operators/mobilesystems/buildmain.asp
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