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Raiderski
Joined: Jul 03, 2006
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From: Poland, Hell, Mountains
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cyber-shoter
don't smoke it's killing 
any competition rules violated? 
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ceaser2008
Joined: Jul 14, 2008
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From: Surat, India
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No, they are not violated but blue-d 
By the way, cyber-shoter, should you take that kind of pic? Think for others. we also want to win.
[ This Message was edited by: ceaser2008 on 2009-11-17 10:56 ] |
Raiderski
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From: Poland, Hell, Mountains
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anti post-processing & anti modded driver
photo competitions are never fair but who said that the amateur have no chane against professional? from when hardware is more important than idea, creativity, mood, emotions, good looking photo, elusive moment or something special in front of your eyes? aren't they most important values? if not then you must hate photography and love pressing the button, only
if your photo is too weak to enter into competition don't post it and do not force me to lower my abilities because you can't go higher with your quality/skills. you think that post-processing is bad, I think it's great. you think it can be used only to improve the photo quality, I think it can be used to create something which pure photo is not able to show. if our post-processing is bad thing how to call Karez portofilio? post-processing in purest evil form? we are living under the rock...
so far I haven't seen any good (!) reason why we should get rid of basic post-processing and modded driver from the competition. if you want me to say "it's not fair" then my question is: is it fair to force somebody with good skills to not use his skills because somebody have no skills and don't want to improve them?
Plank
my photo can stay or not? I used modded driver
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ceaser2008
Joined: Jul 14, 2008
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From: Surat, India
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Raiderski, pls calm down. And dont remove your entry in any case. If you do that, my entry which is ready to upload will also go to trash.
Let our loved mod tranced to think over this matter. Till then, i request you and others to pls get on with the competition. 
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Raiderski
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I want to be fair and play on Plank's rules, I have to respect them
I don't want to be harsh. I thought we can have small discussion here and explain everything but ok, I will not continue it in this thread
MORE PHOTOS, PLEASE! theme is very nice, use it
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tranced
Joined: Jan 19, 2006
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From: Santo Domingo, wonDeRland
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I used a modded driver. I'm using SEC5100' 2.36A camdriver.
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ceaser2008
Joined: Jul 14, 2008
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From: Surat, India
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Raiderski, sure we can talk here. there is no way to discontinue. All i know is we must continue in any case. i totally agree with you but i think plank should have made that clear at the starting. this is not the right time to implement this rule.
By the way, after doing that research on this competition, one more thing which i understand is every rule needs some thought. this was done by don, previously. but now in his absense, i think this has to be done by tranced. if he agrees on this rule of not using modded cam drive, it will be implemented from next month. this month every thing should be allowed. so lets continue here and get on with this and finish it well.
by the way here is my entry for this month of course taken with my k850i with cybershot xperience 7.7 by witchking.
link to original -------> http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/viewphotos.php?pid=23880
thank you
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axelpholey
Joined: Nov 13, 2009
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On 2009-11-17 13:44:49, Raiderski wrote:
if your photo is too weak to enter into competition don't post it and do not force me to lower my abilities because you can't go higher with your quality/skills
Modesty isn't one of your faults for sure
On 2009-11-17 13:44:49, Raiderski wrote:
I think it can be used to create something which pure photo is not able to show
If you are not able to show your skill without photo editing or modded cam driver you have no skill in a photo contest like this, a camera PHONE contest. It’s more hard to take a pure nice pic without tricks.
In the photo section it is declared that “The photos here are uploaded by members of the Esato forum to demonstrate the quality of popular mobile phone cameras”
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mriley
Joined: Oct 03, 2009
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From: UK
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i agree with ceaser, rules are as stated in first post so drivers are allowed, this is a lesson to be learned for next month
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Raiderski
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Modesty isn't one of your faults for sure
lack of modesty? a bit of an inconvenient truth said aloud. it wasn't a person to person message, it was a group (proponents) to group (opponents) message. sorry if you felt offended but important problems must be discussed from A to Z even if discomfort may appear
If you are not able to show your skill without photo editing or modded cam driver you have no skill in a photo contest like this, a camera PHONE contest.
so, is this really about the phone? is there any place for the photo?
my skills exceeded the barier of auto mode long time ago and I would like to use them, fully. is this wrong?
In the photo section it is declared that “The photos here are uploaded by members of the Esato forum to demonstrate the quality of popular mobile phone cameras”
we are not in the photo section, besides is this your point that everything here must roll around the phone and its limits? just asking
I don't want to make a mess here, we can continue on PM
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mriley
Joined: Oct 03, 2009
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From: UK
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every person has opinion , but ultimately not about their opinion, it's what rules are stated by host
back to photos 
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axelpholey
Joined: Nov 13, 2009
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lack of modesty? a bit of an inconvenient truth
OMG, you are only confirming it!
my skills exceeded the barier of auto mode long time ago and I would like to use them
Without modding your camera driver it wouldn’t be possible to shot those pics. Simply facts.
Maybe you have forgotten your words when you were talking about the bridge pic:
On 2009-3-29 21,54, Raiderski wrote:
in some way this can be seen as unfair competition
You can also notice plankgatan’s coherence when he said:
On 2009-3-29 16:26, plankgatan wrote:
sad, its not original (cant remember my k800 had 1 sec exposure at night )
(but the rules are any modding, editing or tweaking.... so go for it)
still, if i "made" the rules (which i dont ) i should decide just original pictures.
(think thats more fair in a photo-competition, a bit weird when a k700 have better quality then a C905 ....you follow me...anyway, thats just my opinion)
we can continue on PM
A bit of inconvenient truth?
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Raiderski
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great guy he came from nowhere and with nothing he wants to establish new rules. hey mister smartass axelpholey if you want to chit-chat about important things start new thread, if not then I invite you on PM. only one request - don't make a mess here any more. don't forget to post something really valueable in this thread - the photo
I will not reply on your last post because it's like reheating of the old pork. conversations between me and Plankgatan, ahhh... hey Plank do you remember? cheers! you must to know that Plank's respect on Esato is like 99/100 and you just started from 0
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tranced
Joined: Jan 19, 2006
Posts: > 500
From: Santo Domingo, wonDeRland
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Ok, guys! Let's keep posting the photos and not letters(except for the link of the image and details). Remember this is a photo competition
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Pitzon
Joined: Oct 14, 2007
Posts: 435
From: Sweden
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On 2009-11-17 21:42:56, tranced wrote:
Ok, guys! Let's keep posting the photos and not letters
I can´t, i have no macro function on my stupid iphone. Plank chose this subject just to taunt me i think
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