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Zed@CPS
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SE did what they could Yes, and that was miserably insufficient to cope with the potential given by the best smartphone UI platform invented so far.
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tranced
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@zed: How will affect this to CPS?
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Dogmann
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Hi all,
Well having now had an X1 now for a little over 24hrs i must say it proves that SE can make a good quality handset. Personally i just can't understand why SE couldn't of made the X1 with a similar spec running UIQ3.3 as that was what so many of us were waiting and asking for.
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tranced
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They knew this was going to happen. There you have beibei and paris cancelled. So they went for the winmo side.
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Zed@CPS
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CPS will keep releasing new and updated software for UIQ3 as long as a reasonable number of such devices is still in active use. A transition to the S60/SF-UI platform will also take place at the same time.
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tranced
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Well, i hope this lasts for long then . Someone should retake uiq and move it to the third level.
Any chance of android powered apps?
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max_wedge
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On 2008-10-28 01:27:03, Dogmann wrote:
Personally i just can't understand why SE couldn't of made the X1 with a similar spec running UIQ3.3 as that was what so many of us were waiting and asking for.
That's exactly why I keep saying it must have been more than just a hardware issue. imho there were issues with UIQ that couldn't be resolved easily. I don't know what, I'm just speculating that because it just doesn't seem logical that they wouldn't have brought out a UIQ3.3 phone if everything was ready to go.
My guess is that whatever problems they needed to iron out, were too expensive in the long run to justify a final run of UIQ phones (based on their expected return in sales). Just reminding people again, symbian is dead. SE have sold out their interest in it as per the agreement with Nokia and the other members of the Symbian Foundation.
I can fully understand why they may not wanted to have commited resources to a final run of UIQ that was going nowhere. TBH, I was surprised they even released the G900.
On 2008-10-28 00:53:44, Zed@CPS wrote:
SE did what they could Yes, and that was miserably insufficient to cope with the potential given by the best smartphone UI platform invented so far.
The UI is more a philosophy of how to interface with a phone - that philosophy can be carried through to whatever OS they choose to use. They could even carry it through to WM, which they have done to some extent, but not comprehensively with X1.
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Zed@CPS
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Any chance of android powered apps? I would not say that Android "powers" applications. Android programs run in a virtual Java machine and have no direct access to lower level operating system resources. Such approach generally means that programs tend to be slower, bigger and less powerful. I prefer using native language (C++) and AFAIK that's impossible under Android. Therefore, Android is currently at the end of the queue of future platforms possibly supported by CPS, behind WM and Mac.
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max_wedge
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iphone apps are restricted too, in that they are not multitaskable. Only one app is allowed to run at a time. iPhone apps run through the browser anway, they don't have direct system access. So MAC doesn't qualify as an open OS for smartphone's I'm afraid.
Though of course we won't be seeing any mac based SE phones; mac doesn't even figure in that equation. 
That leaves WM, and the upcoming Symbian Foundation as possible OS's for SE to use.
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razec
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MAC OS and android have the stupid kill-switch program. another reason to ditch them.
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ares
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If you want to hear more on why UIQ is over, the latest AAS podcast is a good source
http://www.allaboutsymbian.co[....]45-Symbian_Smartphone_Show.php
Listen to it Max...you need it 
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max_wedge
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thanks, it's about time you actually provided some information rather than tell me I'm wrong with no attempt to explain why, then watch me make an idiot of myself....
I will listen to it, and I'll be happy to stand corrected if I think it's warranted after listening...
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arvinlad
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Good grief that is drivel...  - I listened to the 1st 6 mins about how many people coming to the show, the benefits of holding the show where it is, the politics of who is taking the lead in the SF... Yawn - 24 minutes of that won't help Max at all - Sorry couldn't face any more 'cutting insight'
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ares
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On 2008-10-28 11:47:10, max_wedge wrote:
thanks, it's about time you actually provided some information rather than tell me I'm wrong with no attempt to explain why, then watch me make an idiot of myself....
I will listen to it, and I'll be happy to stand corrected if I think it's warranted after listening...
no hard feelings man...truth should be somewhere in the middle between our two opinions its just that only people that actually went through UIQ3 "history" (i´m one of them) can actually see what SE have (not) done in all this, and their responsability
anwyay, they will make a special podcast and other stuff about UIQ´s history soon...should be fun to see
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No worries. I guess over the history of problems, starting with P990, I can see where you are coming from. At this late juncture, I think they had no option but to pull UIQ. But if they had done more sooner, it may not have been necessary, and if they had made a success of it, they may have been able to keep the old Symbian Group alive.
SE's weakness on UIQ allowed Nokia to solidify their Symbian Foundation plans. I know there is a lot of excitement about Symbian Foundation being open source, but I'll believe it when I see. Imho Nokia will tie it up so it suits their interests above other members.
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