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nettl
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Posted: 2008-08-06 19:00
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On 2008-08-06 18:18:04, goldenface wrote:

On 2008-08-06 16:15:15, se_dude wrote:
This has turned into a C902 vs Innov8 war here.Poor C905.


You mean poor INNOV8 if its being compared to the C902.

Its really funny how each picture example is zoomed in and examined at an almost microscopic level - its insane.

The C905 and INNOV8 don't take terrible pictues, they both take great pictures and from the examples I have seen, the differences are almost minimal.

You don't really have to try too hard to find fault with most cameraphone pictures, they are cameraphones afterall, not digicams.



I'll remind you of this post the next time you critize any non-SE for having a less than stellar picture.
sadeghi85
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Posted: 2008-08-06 19:14
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On 2008-08-06 18:18:04, goldenface wrote:


You don't really have to try too hard to find fault with most cameraphone pictures, they are cameraphones afterall, not digicams.




i8510 and C905 show that camphones will become more like digicams slowly slowly.
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Posted: 2008-08-06 20:29
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Yes but a dedicated 8MP cam will always be superior to a mobile 8 MP cam because of the sensor size. I'm still amazed that mobile cams have come this far.

This message was posted from a K850i
sadeghi85
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Posted: 2008-08-06 20:56
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Of course that's true. I meant users will buy 8-10MP camphones more as an alternative to dedicated digicams, so they will try to find every single fault on the pics(to pick the best).
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Posted: 2008-08-06 21:20
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Nothing wrong with being critical of products which are basically advertised on lies.

The manufacturers spend alot of advertising money trying to convince everyone of how great these cams are and how much they are like a "real" cams.

Then dont whine if consumers examine their claims, and critisize if their claims are wrong, highly exagerated or sometimes even close to being a fraud.




Radiux399
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Posted: 2008-08-07 05:28
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Some people here (Plank, i'm looking at you) don't like to admit that some recent SE phones such as the K800/K850, and even the C902 have issues with low light detail and excessive noise reduction (the so called "oil painting effect"). I really don't understand the reason for trying to deny its existence - do you have stock in SE or something?

Something I posted many months ago, but shows the difference between good image processing, and poor processing.

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Posted: 2008-08-07 20:41
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A Nice Detailed Video of the camera/camcorder options and a demonstration of the led flash(s) in work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPHIdVAvV9c
plankgatan
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Posted: 2008-08-07 21:45
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radiux....i dont see any oil paint effect on C902 !

can you please show where it is. took some random pics with a lot of colors, so you easier can show me.

indoor


outdoor


low light (or what to call it)



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Posted: 2008-08-07 22:13
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On 2008-08-07 21:45:34, plankgatan wrote:
can you please show where it is. took some random pics with a lot of colors, so you easier can show me.










Coquito
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Posted: 2008-08-07 22:14
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@Radiux399:
WTF is that? This is the C905 Thread not (a stupid) war thread about cam quality of k850 and t650

BTW
Whats the point of zooming the pictures to the max just to see little defects?
IS A CAMERA PHONE, not a Digi cam or DSLR Pro Cam.

C905 cam quality is great and some many people will buy it because is , and some people will prefer the Samsung because is "Samsung".


Sorry for my english

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Raiderski
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Posted: 2008-08-07 22:21
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Plank here is the right place for your pictures:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=171299

however...
1. score for you for full size
2. neither of this pictures cannot pretend to have oil-paint effect. pictures of your doughter and the toy were taken in good light conditions - just look at exposure time and ISO in EXIF. LCD picture isn't good example too - luminosity of the screen is really high, once again look at EXIF
3. easiest way for oil-paint effect reproduction. turn on the light in your room when is night and just make a picture of this room. I hope you don't have 4x 100W lightbulbs post it in C902 pics thread

guys please C905 shots only. from different phones only if you want to compare with C905, ok? great, thanks
unforgiven_sh
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Posted: 2008-08-07 22:30
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On 2008-08-07 22:14:25, Coquito wrote:
BTW
Whats the point of zooming the pictures to the max just to see little defects?
IS A CAMERA PHONE, not a Digi cam or DSLR Pro Cam.

C905 cam quality is great and some many people will buy it because is , and some people will prefer the Samsung because is "Samsung".


1. there is no zoom here, just crop parts from a full-size picture plank posted
2. its a C902 and not C905
3. plank asked for this

so relax

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