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Nokia N73 vs SE K800i which is better? |
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On 2006-10-30 20:38:15, nalbagli wrote:
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On 2006-10-30 07:05:34, jj03 wrote:
Lol..another fanboy post above. what a lovely subjective statement.lol.
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If I would be a fan boy I would say K800 is better and I just said that I didnt like symbian and that the camera is better on K800 and I have read some reviews that prove me right
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well, reviews are opinion's....and there are a few reviews that favour the n73 generally...i loved the k800i, but when the joystick broke, after only 3 months of ownership...i had to change it...and i'm glad i did. |
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On 2006-10-31 10:25:09, 786KBR wrote:
Which phone looks better?
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K800 looks better. N73 looks durable, and i think it actually is. |
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if you have actually used the phones you'll see major differeences.....
overall the e series performers better then the n series by far.. more stable, battery management and memory management are better
the n80 built like a piece of trash with horrid battery
teh n73 good battery, decent cam except for the blue mist.. but the UI is slowwww.. heck i've had it lock up so many times trying to open the galleryy.. that's cause nokia is stupid for mixing video and images together in the n series
other complaints about the n73.. the leypad sucks.. the build is creaky and the joystick has broken off a few that i know of
the n93.... lol huge,, great concept but the cam sucks, video is great but have you everr made a cal with it?... the hinge part digs into your face a very uncomfortable feeling
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On 2006-10-31 13:04:34, DragonEye wrote:
if you have actually used the phones you'll see major differeences.....
overall the e series performers better then the n series by far.. more stable, battery management and memory management are better
the n80 built like a piece of trash with horrid battery
teh n73 good battery, decent cam except for the blue mist.. but the UI is slowwww.. heck i've had it lock up so many times trying to open the galleryy.. that's cause nokia is stupid for mixing video and images together in the n series
other complaints about the n73.. the leypad sucks.. the build is creaky and the joystick has broken off a few that i know of
the n93.... lol huge,, great concept but the cam sucks, video is great but have you everr made a cal with it?... the hinge part digs into your face a very uncomfortable feeling
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Piece of trash? LOL
Ive had both phones and in terms of build there both as good as each other. Infact the joystick of my first n73 fell off and this is not an isolated case.
And in regards to the purple mist dont you think its so silly how Nokia have not solved this problem after a few firmware updates let alone acknowledged it.
In fact they still havent even solved the fuzzy video problem on the n80 let alone the n73. Symbiam is all good but to be honest I hardley use it for anything but again thats just my opinion.
For pictures in daytime both take as good as each other but I think the fact that in the time it takes the n73 to take just 1 pic and save it you could have taken 2 or 3 with the k800 swings it in SEs favour.
Playback of video is limited in the n73 even with smartmovie capabilities.
Where as on the k800 you can get high quality mp4 vids that would only work on the n93. |
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From technology aspect N73 is far ahead of K800. For those who are into tech and like advanced pda functions or customisability, they would not even consider a K800.
For the rest of buyers, they will buy based on personal preferences and specs like camera. On this account, N73 photos are better than K800 according to a survey by M-R where 50% of those participated said N73 is the best, 30% said N93 and only a miserable 20% said K800 is the best. This is solid proof from the public that N73 photo is better instead of from some reviewers or heresay in forums.
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-n73-cam-en.shtml
For video recording and other software capabilites there is no need to talk further. N73 beats the K800. Likewise for screen. If you take out personal preferences, N73 is just the better phone than K800, period.
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@QVGA
I am not saying you cant defend nokias ( I find the great too) but when I posted saying that cam was better on k800 and that if you didnt really use symbian I thought k800 was better, you quoted my post telling that all I said was crap and giving no arguments |
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On 2006-11-01 04:20:45, mib1800 wrote:
From technology aspect N73 is far ahead of K800. For those who are into tech and like advanced pda functions or customisability, they would not even consider a K800.
For the rest of buyers, they will buy based on personal preferences and specs like camera. On this account, N73 photos are better than K800 according to a survey by M-R where 50% of those participated said N73 is the best, 30% said N93 and only a miserable 20% said K800 is the best. This is solid proof from the public that N73 photo is better instead of from some reviewers or heresay in forums.
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-n73-cam-en.shtml
For video recording and other software capabilites there is no need to talk further. N73 beats the K800. Likewise for screen. If you take out personal preferences, N73 is just the better phone than K800, period.
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That review tells theat the camera quality is a draw...but he prefers N73 but how he tells in the review the k800 images ar more real wich I prefer.
How can you trust a survey that the porcentages are aproximated and in the survey just 22 people participated so results are not really worth it to trust.
Of course in that type of survey n73 would win because if you dont really know how was the actual color of the objects you think that the rest of pics are like "washed out" but the truth is the N73 pics colors are exagerated
Btw, seems courious no xenon flash vs led pics were used in survey...because there is where k800 kicks n73 ass
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Mulder7,
Have u checked your n73īs firmware? is it the latest? |
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That review tells theat the camera quality is a draw...but he prefers N73 but how he tells in the review the k800 images ar more real wich I prefer.
How can you trust a survey that the porcentages are aproximated and in the survey just 22 people participated so results are not really worth it to trust. |
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I definitely take the results of what 22 people preferred rather than what ONE reviewer prefered. 
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I think in the survey there were low light pictures. And you know what, people still prefer the low light pictures of N73 even with purple tint. With N73 you get to see entire picture including background further way. For K800 night pictures, you can see something up to 3 ft but everything else further is just near complete darkness.
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Matteus
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At first i got dark pictures over 2-3 meters with automatic position. Then i begun to take photos with dark portrait position and the pictures are always good even in big rooms with very little light.
Bytheway - with K800i u can use very stylish watch http://www.mobileburn.com/med[....]_ericsson_mbw-100-IMG_0236.jpg
With N73 u can use maybe soon a Fossil wrist watch.
Then u could name the combination a Fossil N73 cellphone.
Here u can look more http://www.fossil.com/shoppin[....]itemID=37060&keyword=bluetooth |
Mulder7
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Ok I went back into Orange yesterday and took my N73 back and got a K800 and to be honest, im no fanboy but I love the SE. I just think the keypad, joystick and camera are much better even though feature wise its pretty tame compared against the N73.
Yes the N73 has this, that and other feature wise but unless your gonna use all that whats the point? I used a little bit of common sense and said to myself, If im not gonna use all these features then whats the point?
It is true that you should keep to your same manufacturer. That was my first real Nokia phone and I just couldnt adapt to its style of menus and logos etc. I am much more confortable with the K800, once unbranded it will be awsome.
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On 2006-11-01 04:58:40, SloopJohnB wrote:
Mulder7,
Have u checked your n73īs firmware? is it the latest?
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I dont know mate because I hated it so much I didnt do much with it, sorry.
This whole phenomena is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, wrapped in a government agenda.
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On 2006-11-01 04:20:45, mib1800 wrote:
From technology aspect N73 is far ahead of K800. For those who are into tech and like advanced pda functions or customisability, they would not even consider a K800.
For the rest of buyers, they will buy based on personal preferences and specs like camera. On this account, N73 photos are better than K800 according to a survey by M-R where 50% of those participated said N73 is the best, 30% said N93 and only a miserable 20% said K800 is the best. This is solid proof from the public that N73 photo is better instead of from some reviewers or heresay in forums.
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-n73-cam-en.shtml
For video recording and other software capabilites there is no need to talk further. N73 beats the K800. Likewise for screen. If you take out personal preferences, N73 is just the better phone than K800, period.
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That review was byast on purpose. MR never even got any protos of the n73 as Nokia decided not to give it to them based on previous damaging reviews.
That review was always going to favour Nokia to make sure MR get future products.
If you like I also have a review which in the end shows that the k800 wins.
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On 2006-08-15 07:39:49, mib1800 wrote:
Go get the N73. I can find NOTHING that K800 can do better than N73 (except for night shots and maybe battery life). N73 outclass K800 in almost everything.
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How about playing high quality mp4 videos?
Yes the n73 can record better but the n73 even fails in comparism with the n70. The CIF video has been ruined by Nokias new lens system.
Yes its well documented the k800s video isnt that good but this will no longer be the case with high end models after the k800.
I always experienced crashing with the n73.
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On 2006-11-01 06:22:40, mib1800 wrote:
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That review tells theat the camera quality is a draw...but he prefers N73 but how he tells in the review the k800 images ar more real wich I prefer.
How can you trust a survey that the porcentages are aproximated and in the survey just 22 people participated so results are not really worth it to trust. |
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I definitely take the results of what 22 people preferred rather than what ONE reviewer prefered.
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I think in the survey there were low light pictures. And you know what, people still prefer the low light pictures of N73 even with purple tint. With N73 you get to see entire picture including background further way. For K800 night pictures, you can see something up to 3 ft but everything else further is just near complete darkness.
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How I told you before of course people will think N73 pics are better if the dont really know the actual color of the objects in the pics because the N73 makes k800 pics look washed out...when the truth is that colors in N73 pics are false....And I am not the only peron who likes more K800 pics I will search some reviews I have seen where they think K800 wins |
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bavlondon2
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That review was byast on purpose. MR never even got any protos of the n73 as Nokia decided not to give it to them based on previous damaging reviews.
That review was always going to favour Nokia to make sure MR get future products.
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Are you for real? Are you also implying that all the good SE phone reviews in M-R are tainted or nonsense because "to make sure MR get future products" from SE" 
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If you like I also have a review which in the end shows that the k800 wins.
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Well, it is not about the good or bad review isnt it? It is about the survey result (in which members of the PUBLIC took part) which said the N73 photos are better.
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Did you get this information from a SE fan?. I know quite a few people who own N73 and dont have problem playing mp4 or avi/divx at high frame rate.
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| Yes its well documented the k800s video isnt that good but this will no longer be the case with high end models after the k800.
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Are we talking about K800 or what? I also know models after N73 will have super-duper video recording.
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Someone also said his K800 repeatedly WSOD and finally cannot boot up
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Does washed out, blury and "more real" pics of K800 makes it better than N73's more vivid and sharper pics? Definitely not according to 22 people who took part in the survey.
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So you would believe 22 people over hundereds that have actually got the phones themselves.
Once you get into low lighting conditions the n73 fails badly where as the k800 outshines every other cam phone on the Euo market thanks to its xenon flash.
And when taking a picture of something quickly i want it to be done within a few seconds.
If Nokia are good at something its rolling out too many phones at once and not perfecting them where as SE alwasy perfect the phone before or ussualy soon after releasing the phone.
I used to be a Nokia fan but recent events such as failing to fix the crappy fuzzy n80 video even months after its release as well as its poor slider build. Also the purple fog still hasnt been sorted on the n73. How can you n73 owners possibly be happy when these phones are technically faluty and Nokia do not even address these problems.
Most people would also agree that the slider system on the n80 fails in comparism with the d600. For what was such an expensive phone its quite sneaky how Nokia can get away with this time and time again and now there are having the same problem as video aside the n93 picture quality is failing expectations. Nice one nokia!!!
It can take up to 6 seconds to take and save a pic with the n73 and in that time i could have taken 2 with the k800.
And as for mp4 high quality vids ill post up one that i use andn used previously on my w800 that im posative wont work on the n73.
Nokia have always been behind SE in terms of codecs.
Why not see this review then. Here you can see how badly the nokia fail due to the high ISO level which has quite frankly if anything soiled the CZ name.
http://www.newmobile.nl/eur/en/news.php?news_id=caf44c
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And to skip to the conclusion here it is:
Conclusion
When we sum up a complete conclusion of the complete photo quality then it becomes clear that the Sony Ericsson K800i sticks to the number one position. There is no reason to buy the KG920, due to the fact that it takes to much time to make a photo and there is no extra quality in relation to the amount of available pixels. The N73 and N93 are nice devices with a reasonable quality. The N93 is too fat and too large, but has 3x optical zoom.
Especially the easy controls make the difference with respect to the K800i. It is something the other devices cannot match. Taking a picture with one of the three devices from a nice object or current situation is not possible. There are too many steps that need to be addressed before the devices are ready. The current situation is then already gone. The menu of the K800i is also one the easiest ones. All functions have the correct name in any language translation. Something that Nokia should address better.
There are not that many differences in relation to the settings in the devices. The N93 does not have the options pre-flash and red eye reduction. The N93 and N73 do not have a xenon flash. The KG920 has all you need, but the quality within the settings is not the same as the K800i. Options like BestPic, the possibility to shoot panorama photos or frame photos are strong points in the Sony Ericsson device. All these options are not available in the other devices. The BestPic system is something that should be placed in any camera phone. You shoot nine photos and choose the best photos from this set. You will never experience failed photos.
The winner on the flash is the K800i. With a distance of at least several meters the K800i makes the best pictures with enhanced flash. The xenon flash in the KG920 is not as good as the K800i but reaches a distance of one meter. The N93 and N73 have a simple LED light. There is a major difference between the two. The N73 has a higher range than the N93.
Are they no weak points in the K800i? Yes, there are! The video camera is really weak and is not the quality you would expect in such a device. The other three make better video and N93 is the best video camera device in the market currently. However the device does not offer the quality as suggested in the slogan DVD quality video. Next to that the size of the device is something that should be considered.
Can we address the question mentioned at the beginning of this comparison? Yes, we can. The Sony Ericsson K800i is currently the best camera phone. The complete camera quality, control and easy way in which Sony Ericsson build-in the camera options make the device the absolute winner. A drawback is the video. The K800i is closely followed by the N73 and N93. Both offer a stronger video quality than the Sony Ericsson device, but leave points behind on other items. Finally the KG920 suffers on easy control and does not show extra quality in relation to its specifications.
Check out the test photos and test videos make by each device. Below you will find some links to each page where you can check out those photos and videos. At least 18 photos are made by each device. All comparison photos used in this review are also shown on the pages below.
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CIF video used to look nice when on the n70, n90 and n91 but Nokia have ruined it and even Samsung D900's daytime video is sharper now.
For those of you who are MR fanatics beware that it was their lack of expertise which cost them even getting the n73 for review AFTER the phone had already laucnched. They were making such silly comments as the k750s video was adequate where the n91s was poor???
Madness but each to their own.
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