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randomuser
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@Shaoran
Even if it doesn't have Xenon, it will have Dual Plasma flash which is as good as Xenon. I don't see why you or anyone else should be disappointed. Honami will be great, no doubt about that. Most of the specs I listed for Honami are 100% confirmed except for -
1) Type of Flash (Xenon or Dual Plasma)
2) Exact Resolution of camera (13-20 MP)
3) Exact size of Sensor (Between 1/1.8" - 2/3")
But in any case all the above 3 variables will still be outstanding at the very least.
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moogoo
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for sensor, bigger is better right?
S4 zoom has 1/2.33" sensor, so honami should beat that for bragging rights alone!
then again, maybe i'm misunderstanding the whole sensor size stuff..
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@moogoo
Yes that's right. Bigger the better.
Even at worst case scenario Honami will beat S4 zoom and Nokia N8.  |
moogoo
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well you just said the two options are 1/1.8 and 2/3.. if it's the 1/1.8, then it doesn't beat the S4 zoom, which is 1/2.33, right?
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randomuser
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1/1.8" is bigger than 1/2.3".
A 1/3" sensor ( Z/S4) has an area of 17.30mm square
1/2.3" (S4 Zoom) has 28.50 mm square area
1/1.8" has 38.20mm sq area
2/3" has 58.10 mm sq area
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moogoo
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i just realized what i was doing when reading those numbers. a little googling goes a long way 
sorry. i am not that stupid
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2013-06-15 07:52 ] moogoo
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Shotokan81
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Hi Ramu,
May i ask what you refer to when you say plasma flash vs xenon flash?
I cannot find the difference on the web.
My understanding (thank you wikipedia) is that flashtubes are lamps that contain a gaz and take it to plasma state to emmit lots of light. The most used gaz is Xenon.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashtube
So a plasma flash that is not xenon, is basically almost the same, just it uses another gaz (apparently the next most used one is krypton).
Can you shed some light please? 
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shaoran
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@ramu
Yeah...I know that honami still gonna be a good phone...but I have doubtfull that plasma flash can be as good as xenon flash...
I remember someone showed a picture from his keitai that used plasma flash...n I thought it still can not exchange the use of xenon in low light condition...I know that bigger sensor is gonna make a good pic too...but in my opinion a bigger sensor, xenon flash, good Lens, New algorithma is one package to make the rise of the planet of Sony....hehehe... |
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@Shaoran
True
Let's hope Xenon it is !!
@Shotokan
I don't have much info but you can see this video 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPSCSvGbqig
室内や夜の屋外など、暗い場所でも明るく照らし出す超高輝度LEDフラッシュ「PLASMAフラッシュ™」を搭載。新開発のスーパーキャパシタ方式の蓄電池に大容量の電流を蓄電し、瞬間的に放出することで従来のソニーモバイルコミュニケーションズ フォトライト搭載端末と比較して、約48倍の明るさを実現しています。
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razec
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I agree with shaoran, Xenon Flash currently has no real alternative/replacement, and I too am skeptical about that so called Plasma flash since we haven't seen any major imaging companies moving to it if it's really that good or even better than Xenon tubes. I hope that news ramu had just posted is fake
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moogoo
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indeed. xenon flash would be great. it'll be my first sony phone with a xenon flash! how exciting..
@ramu was there a phone in that video? all i saw were cute girls
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Dual led flash=xenon flash
plazma flash=xenon flash
dual plazma flash>xenon flash
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@random
Honami based on xperia ZL design is XR5? |
randomuser
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On 2013-06-15 09:18:34, kurtdean wrote:
@random
Honami based on xperia ZL design is XR5?
No No. That part is not from me. And it's fake too. Honami is not based on ZL design and nor will it be smaller than ZL |
Shotokan81
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Thanks Ramu, makes things clearer.
Not sure where the text come from, but it says the so called plasma flash is a LED with a big capacitor, supposed to generate 48 times more light than regular LED.
So it has nothing to do with plasma, which is what a xenon flash is.
I cannot say which would be best between the two, but i would tend to be sceptical it can match a (xenon plasma) flash tube. We will need to test it if that is the case, but it sounds Shaoran played with that type of flash and we have our answer.
Lets hope for a full compelling package at the camera department.
On the video, we can appreciate the progress made by Sony marketing comparing to the z campaign.
This one looks like a bad geeky commercial from fujitsu, with lower budget as they could not afford for EXILE or similar boys band!
Probably it is just not the same guys in charge
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