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Sony Ericsson 8.1MP C905 Discussion (Shiho) |
randomtask77
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On 2008-07-26 17:28:38, harry20larry wrote:
I don't understand why SE haven't plastered it over their website like they did with the xperia and now the w902. Doesn't make sense
The odd thing is, the C905 isn't slated for a US releaase. Though there is a version meant to be used on US frequencies, their lineup doesn't include sale on american soil.
This might prove to be a difficult find when released as most online phone shops sell the "i" version. I'd like to pick up the 'a' version because of compatibility with US 3G. |
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mario2004
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I believe SE buy the camera from Samsung (who design it for their Innov8). The thing is,Samsung will release it initially in a module without a xenon flash,which means SE must reprogram the firmware,otherwise the pictures will be over exposed. Looking back at the k850i,I wonder how many fw upgrades will they need until the (night/flash) pic quality will be up to scratch 
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Hiron
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SE gives Eldar C902 and C905 prototype that has a cam from Samsung to be tested, you're right.
But SE changed it. C902 finally using Sony cam module. Just look C902 final sample pic by many people around there (especially posted from plankgatan that has a new firmware).
The pics behaviour totally different from C902 prototype's sample pic.
And then C905... Do you remember C905 sample pics in a car park in Mizzle's USEB? Sharp but too many noise and washing-out color? Thats Samsung. Old C905 prototype has 8.1 MP printed in the side of the phone.
Then 3 days later on 17 june announcement, the new prototype has 8 MP printed. And did you saw the new sample pics from this proto on mobileburn and mobile.cz?
Totally different pics! Good colors with low noise! That's not only because a different firmware. The cam module is different! Could be Sony or the other Samsung camera module though. SE would not be so stupid! 
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plankgatan
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On 2008-07-27 08:26:31, Hiron wrote:
SE gives Eldar C902 and C905 prototype that has a cam from Samsung to be tested, you're right.
But SE changed it. C902 finally using Sony cam module.
Hiron
god bless for that. Samsungs cell phones cameras is worse in low light conditions, overall i prefer Sony made cameras.
im really hope C905 will also have a Sony camera
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micks2005
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Hey there,
The C905 has a sony sensor and not samsung. As it has been designed by Sony. Intially they were going with samsung but when the sony sensor and optics were done they changed.
The old prototypes had 8 megapixels carved on the side and not 8.1. The new prototypes and the retail version will have 8.1 megapixels carved in on the sides. As with regards to the official pics as well it is written 8.1
As now sony would be designing the sensor and optics for all high-end cyber shot fones.
As well for the U.S. they would receive the a version as there are 3 versions being released a, i & c. So rest assured for the people in the U.S. they would be receiving the a version and not the i version.
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razec
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On 2008-07-27 08:26:31, Hiron wrote:
And then C905... Do you remember C905 sample pics in a car park in Mizzle's USEB? Sharp but too many noise and washing-out color? Thats Samsung. Old C905 prototype has 8.1 MP printed in the side of the phone.
Then 3 days later on 17 june announcement, the new prototype has 8 MP printed. And did you saw the new sample pics from this proto on mobileburn and mobile.cz?
Totally different pics! Good colors with low noise! That's not only because a different firmware. The cam module is different! Could be Sony or the other Samsung camera module though. SE would not be so stupid!
Hiron
Now that makes sense, since the hardware level purple fringing buggling out early C905 proto's (Q440i) samples were simply unfixable by software post processing. although it doesn't mean that C905 has a sony module in it. there isn't any 8mp cmos module produced by sony yet or have they developed already? |
Fanofmodi
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I read on infosync world that the cam module is made by sony. Hopd its true. |
WhiteEye
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Now I think that timeframe is really crucial. Samsung INNOV8 will make its debut sooner. Nokia to announce a 8MP cameraphone and it will be released one week aftermath (according to the rumour I heard of). LG seems to be preparing KCxxx, 8MP too. Forget about Moto, they're struggling hard on Alexander. The next battle in imaging starts next month.
Releasing C905 on Oct is not a bad ide at all, but earlier arrival would be advantageous for Sony Ericsson. I hope it does not come with tons of bugs.
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On 2008-07-25 00:17:59, Hiron wrote:
And by the way, Greetings from Bali, Indonesia! I'm 20 years old, Sir!
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*off topic*
Bali... what a lovely place. I am going there next week. 
from my observations, sometimes it's better off not knowing. |
se_dude
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Nokia, according to Smape is to release their 8mp next year. |
micks2005
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Hi Guys,
The release date is in ... 7th October 2008
Have fun.
Ciao. |
alex_on
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On 2008-07-27 12:05:00, Fanofmodi wrote:
I read on infosync world that the cam module is made by sony. Hopd its true.
can you post the link ? i cant find it. |
mario2004
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Wow, Sony make a 8mp camera module for cellphones?!?! Can anyone confirm that? Why on earth should they (se) design a cybershot cell around Samsung's camera module and then take only a few weeks to design their own module and redesign the cell? hmmm . . . i smell a rat. I am asking once again, does Sony really have a 8mp camera module for cellphones. The internet does not know anything about that and neighter does sony  Ask/email them
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Muhammad-Oli
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On 2008-07-28 04:06:43, mario2004 wrote:
Wow, Sony make a 8mp camera module for cellphones?!?! Can anyone confirm that? Why on earth should they (se) design a cybershot cell around Samsung's camera module and then take only a few weeks to design their own module and redesign the cell? hmmm . . . i smell a rat. I am asking once again, does Sony really have a 8mp camera module for cellphones. The internet does not know anything about that and neighter does sony Ask/email them
Hahaha are you serious? It didn't take them a few weeks, it was probably in development for well over a year. It was just two weeks in between us seeing the Samsung module's results and the Sony's. I'm pretty sure the C905 has a Sony module and trustworthy members will confirm that.
@alex_on and mario2004, take a look at the table half way down this page:
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/9547.html
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mario2004
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@Muhammad As much as I would like to believe I can't. That site is a moth old and it does not specifically talk about the sensor. A month ago few reporters/fans knew, SE will use Samsung's sensor in its flagship. A 8mp sensor/module for a cellphone is a very hi-tech thingy, you don't get many of them around and usually companies who eventually makes/develops them 'scream' all over the net - look look how good we are I am still waiting for sony/se to amounce theirs.
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se_dude
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@mario-You have no idea as to what you are saying, neither do you have any proof as to the sensors used in the phones. After Eldar was exposed by Smape, neither does he have any credibility to what he says. He is just a man, blind in revenge and wants to take down SE. So, unless someone else confirms the fact, I will go with the list. SE can easily use the sensors made by SEJ. The phone itself resembles a japanese make. |
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