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Samsung Galaxy K Zoom Announced


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Posted by emerson_shei


Samsung Galaxy K Zoom Key Features:

- 3G Network: HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100

- 4G Network: LTE 800 / 850 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600

- Micro SIM

- Connectivity: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n, Dual Band, Wi - Fi HotSpot, Wi - Fi Direct; Bluetooth v4.0 With A2DP, MicroUSB v2.0, USB Host And NFC

- GPS With A-GPS Support And GLONASS

- Dimensions: 137.5 x 70.8 x 16.6 mm

- Weight: 200 Grams.

- Display 4.8" Super Amoled HD (~306 Ppi Pixel Density) With Corning Gorilla Glass 3

- 8 GigaBytes Memory Internal (User Memory Approximately 4.95GB)

- 2 GigaBytes Ram (1.887 GigaBytes After The System Boot)

- Expansive Memory Up To 64 Gigabytes

- CPU Samsung Exynos 5260 Dual Core 1.7 GHz Cortex A15 And Quad Core 1.3 Ghz Cortex A7 (SemiConductor Technology 28 nm)

- GPU Mali-T624 (Quad - Core Graphics @533 MHz)

- Android 4.4.2 (KitKat) With TouchWiz UI

- Office Document Viewer (Word, Excel, PowerPoint And Reader PDF)

- Camera 20.7 MP With OIS And Xenon Flash

- CamCorder FullHD 1080p @60 FPS

- 2 MP Front Facing Camera For Video Chat And CamCorder FullHD 1080p @30 FPS (Stereo Sound Rec)

- TV Out (ViaMHL A/V link)

- Dropbox (50 GB Cloud Storage)

- SNS Integration

- Active Noise Cancellation With Dedicated Mic

- Standard Battery Li-Ion 2430 mAh

- Available In Black, White And Blue Colors



Technichal Specifications Digital Camera Galaxy k Zoom:

* Optical Assembly: Samsung Lens (24mm in 35mm equiv.)
* F-Number: f/3.1 (Wide Angle) And f/6.3 (Telephoto)
* Focal Length: 4.40mm - 44mm (35 mm film equivalent: 24 - 240 mm)
* Focus Range: 3 Cm - Infinity
* Iso Sensitivity: 100 - 3200
* Shutter Speed: Max - (16s) / Min - (1/2000s)
* Image Stabilization: Yes (Optical Lens)
* Zoom: 10x Optical Zoom
* Continuous Shot: 3 FPS
* Features Digital Camera: Touch Focus - Manual Focus - Face Detection - Smile Detection - Panorama - HDR And Geo - Tagging
* Flash: Led (3rd Generation) And Xenon (3rd Generation)
* Reach In Shooting Of Flash: Up To 6 Meters
* AF Light: Yes (Led 3rd Generation)
* ISP: Fujitsu M7MU
* Image Sensor: CMOS BSI SONY EXMOR RS IMX200
* Format:1/2.3"
* Surface: (6.17mm x 4.55mm)
* Pixel Size: 1.2 Microns
* Total Pixel Are Used: 5248 x 3936 - 20.7 MP
* Maximum Effective Pixels Resolution: 5184 x 3888 For (4:3)
* Other Features: Dual Shot And Simultaneous HD Video And Image Recording



Technichal Specifications Digital Camcorder Galaxy K Zoom:

* Maximum Resolution Digital Camcorder: FULLHD 1080p (1920 x 1080)
* Quantity Frames Per Second During Recording Of Video: 60 FPS
* Recording Codec Used To Do Video: MP4
* Video Bit Rate: 28.1 Mbps
* Recording Audio Codec Used To Do Video: AAC Stereo
* Audio Bit Rate: 256 Kbps
* Audio Sampling Rate: 48.0 KHz
* Light Assist For The Record Video: Yes (Single Led 3rd Generation)
* Features Digital Camcorder: Optical Video Stabilization And Continuous Autofocus


[ This Message was edited by: emerson_shei on 2015-08-03 04:30 ]



Posted by emerson_shei
Samsung Galaxy K Zoom - Official Introduction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6pdF6pgeeo

Posted by miromiromi
is it using an isocell sensor?

those specs look like a sony bsi sensor to me.
why not ISOCELL when it's supposed to perform better than the typical BSI they've used before, as advertised?

now, pureview fans, start your camera duel. let's see how you stand against something that matches your bulk. i'm quite sure you'd be handily beaten.
[ This Message was edited by: miromiromi on 2014-04-29 05:34 ]


Posted by emerson_shei
Samsung Galaxy K Zoom Presentation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0GyskGdPzQ
[ This Message was edited by: emerson_shei on 2014-05-04 22:50 ]


Posted by Bonovox
I don't really like devices like this with huge camera humps. But good luck with it Sammy

Posted by emerson_shei
Samsung Galaxy K Zoom: Smartphone With a Very Powerful Camera

http://hi-tech.mail.ru/review/Samsung_GALAXY_K_Zoom-rev.html

Posted by miromiromi
i wonder how diehard pureview fanatics reach when this thing tops dxomark

Posted by Sassho
All about Galaxy K Zoom - 20mp camera , 10х opt.zoom with OIS , Hexa-Core Exynos / Mali-T624 GPU. Black body look's great
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsu[....]oom_camera_phone-news-8399.php




Great build quality


The Best sensor in Samsung phone - full EXIF specs here. Stupid Samsung take down lens quality with unnecessary 10x zoom
http://wccftech.com/galaxy-k-camera-samples/

Preview and camera samples
http://hi-tech.mail.ru/review/Samsung_GALAXY_K_Zoom-rev.html
http://mobile-review.com/review/samsung-galaxy-k-zoom.shtml


With app Camera FV5 , resize to 5-8mp and little Zoom (for eliminate blurry lens ending ) is possible get nice quality , but necessary is too much enthusiasm Price in stores is 499EU , I give only 199EU for this toy
[ This Message was edited by: Sassho on 2014-04-29 22:25 ]


Posted by Tsepz_GP
Looks great and the specs put it weirdly in between mid end and high end, I'm glad they also gave it its own name instead of Galaxy S5 Zoom, what this tells us is that the S4 Zoom must have been quite a success that Samsung decided that its successor doesn't require leaning on the S brand and can now stand on its own.

I'm getting the Note 4 this year but next year I think I'll be looking for a nice companion for my phablet, and I think the Galaxy K or the K2 will be that.

Posted by cu015170
Tiny sensor.. nothing special.

Put a 1" sensor in it if you want to be taken seriously considering the size and weight of the thing..

A 1/2.3-inch is okay in a Sony Z2, but this is supposed to be a "camera"

Posted by Bonovox
Would have been nice if Samsung used Schneider lens like they do on their top compact cameras. But that may have bumped up the price. I used to have the Samsung EX1 camera with Schneider lens @ f1.9 full manual control & it took amazing images. But I tripped on a step in Somerset & smashed it

Posted by Sassho
No doubt - Galaxy K Zoom is the Best android cameraphone. Sensor quality is great , but big 10x zoom take down image quality in the ending. I make few samples with little crop and resized to 8mp , comments?









Posted by Luca-S
Funny...
The IQ is exactly the SAME of Xperia Z2 but being a Sony device it goes automatically to a lower level.
What'a coherency...


Posted by cu015170

On 2014-04-29 23:49:20, Sassho wrote:
comments?


too narrow.. you might as well just crop the center of the photo They look like they were taken with an iPhone and posted to instagram

Posted by Sassho
^Funny K Zoom is nice device , I like it.

Posted by razec
That 10x optics is just a bottleneck, the sensor could be better off coupled with a shorter zoom and constant aperture lens like for example 24-72 F2.8 equivalent. In all fairness though it looks great from the back (I'm liking that texture finish Samsung is using on their new generation galaxies, The front face could use some fresher design

Posted by Sassho
SGS K Zoom hands on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PklgjKE80MY
[ This Message was edited by: Sassho on 2014-04-30 12:05 ]


Posted by Luca-S

On 2014-04-30 08:16:26, Sassho wrote:
^Funny K Zoom is nice device , I like it.


Of course you'll like it.
If Samsung launch a Xperia Z2 only with Samsung name printed magically you'll change your mind.


Posted by miromiromi

On 2014-04-30 13:08:08, miromiromi wrote:


and its so funny how Samsung goes back to Sony's BSI sensor for its Camera centric smartphone instead of using its own ISOCELL
i think samsung knows ISOCELL is a pure Crap against Sony's BSI


Doesn't developing a sensor take a very long time and a lot of resources? It's taken Samsung quite sometime to develop the ISOCELL for the Galaxy S5 and I doubt the ISOCELL is yet at a point where it meets the requirements for what they wanted in the Galaxy K Zoom including build cost. We will see the ISOCELL make a return in the Note 4, it seems they are keeping the ISOCELL for their flagships, which makes sense, it was probably much cheaper to just buy a Sony sensor rather than develop a whole new sensor for what is at the end of the day a mid end phone with an optical zoom camera. Just makes logical sense.
[ This Message was edited by: Tsepz_GP on 2014-04-30 11:09 ]


that does not make sense. the ISOCELL sensor is already available. they no longer have to develop anything. the technology already exists. it's even going to be more cost efficient if they use it in more products to spread the R&D costs associated with it. i'm not really sure but based on the sample photos released on mobile-review.com, the S5 photos look better than that of K Zoom's (without pixel peeping). it's a different story when you look into the full resolution crops.

also, wouldn't it be better for the samsung brand to use isocell in their top cameraphone since they are also aiming at selling mobile camera sensors? they're sending the wrong message in ditching isocell for their supposedly best cameraphone.
[ This Message was edited by: miromiromi on 2014-04-30 12:09 ]


You're forgetting that the Galaxy K Zoom is a mid end phone at the end of the day, so the way I see it they are keeping ISOCELL for the high end, and probably next year we will see a Galaxy K2 Zoom with ISOCELL, remember even the Galaxy S4 Zoom wasn't given the best optics so Samsung's Zoom series of phones are not their best camera phones, I think their point is the optical zoom capability mainly.



you're forgetting that it's a cameraphone so it should have samsung's best optics. also, as i said, samsung plans to compete with sony as a mobile camera sensor supplier. why should they not make greater use of their homegrown tech?

remember that when the galaxy s4 zoom was released, it had the best camera tech samsung could put in a smartphone. it had the highest MP count (16MP vs 13MP for the flagship s4).

i really have high hopes for this device. i want it to r*pe those awful pureview fanatics. we've seen how galaxy s5 was enough to make them realize that their "physics wins" argument does not apply when their device maker does not know how to make the most of their camera modules.
[ This Message was edited by: miromiromi on 2014-04-30 12:59 ]


Posted by northmonkey
The K Zoom won't be a patch on the 1020.

Much bigger sensor plus the ability to zoom in 25x after the photo is taken.

Posted by miromiromi
25x ?
you do realize this one has a 20.7MP sensor, don't you? that's about half of lumia 1020's. with just a x2 magnification, it can already zoom in to an equivalent amount of detail that the 1020 takes per inch of an image. it can do x10 magnification so that's around 5x the amount of detail per inch compared to 1020's snaps.
we'll see. hopefully, somebody can come up with comparisons soon. with samsung's knack for sharpness throughout a photo, i have more faith that this will produce better results. it's an android device, it can optically zoom, and it has a removable battery. i'm quite sure this will best pureview 808 and 1020.

of course, i know those are old devices but unless nokia/microsoft comes up with new devices, our comparisons will be limited to them.
[ This Message was edited by: miromiromi on 2014-04-30 14:29 ]


Posted by Sassho

On 2014-04-30 13:31:52, Luca-S wrote:
Of course you'll like it.
If Samsung launch a Xperia Z2 only with Samsung name printed magically you'll change your mind.

Hey Bro I hate Samsung , hate cheapest , pastic , ugly , same and same and same again ever forever design SamEsung is his real name But I like K Zoom as gadget

Posted by northmonkey

On 2014-04-30 15:26:02, miromiromi wrote:
25x ?
you do realize this one has a 20.7MP sensor, don't you? that's about half of lumia 1020's. with just a x2 magnification, it can already zoom in to an equivalent amount of detail that the 1020 takes per inch of an image. it can do x10 magnification so that's around 5x the amount of detail per inch compared to 1020's snaps.
we'll see. hopefully, somebody can come up with comparisons soon. with samsung's knack for sharpness throughout a photo, i have more faith that this will produce better results. it's an android device, it can optically zoom, and it has a removable battery. i'm quite sure this will best pureview 808 and 1020.

of course, i know those are old devices but unless nokia/microsoft comes up with new devices, our comparisons will be limited to them.
[ This Message was edited by: miromiromi on 2014-04-30 14:29 ]



This K Zoom won't better the 808/1020, that's for sure.

Posted by Luca-S

On 2014-04-30 16:29:28, Sassho wrote:
Hey Bro I hate Samsung , hate cheapest , pastic , ugly , same and same and same again ever forever design SamEsung is his real name But I like K Zoom as gadget


My bad!
You just hate Sony, sorry!

Posted by northmonkey

On 2014-04-30 15:26:02, miromiromi wrote:
25x ?
you do realize this one has a 20.7MP sensor, don't you? that's about half of lumia 1020's. with just a x2 magnification, it can already zoom in to an equivalent amount of detail that the 1020 takes per inch of an image. it can do x10 magnification so that's around 5x the amount of detail per inch compared to 1020's snaps.
we'll see. hopefully, somebody can come up with comparisons soon. with samsung's knack for sharpness throughout a photo, i have more faith that this will produce better results. it's an android device, it can optically zoom, and it has a removable battery. i'm quite sure this will best pureview 808 and 1020.

of course, i know those are old devices but unless nokia/microsoft comes up with new devices, our comparisons will be limited to them.
[ This Message was edited by: miromiromi on 2014-04-30 14:29 ]



I am right that the 1020 zooms in or can zoom in 25x after the picture was taken and you can reframe and crop.

3x lossless zoom whislt taking pictures, 25x zoom after, plus 4x on 1080p video and 6x on 720p video.

Posted by Bonovox

On 2014-04-30 16:29:28, Sassho wrote:

On 2014-04-30 13:31:52, Luca-S wrote:
Of course you'll like it.
If Samsung launch a Xperia Z2 only with Samsung name printed magically you'll change your mind.

Hey Bro I hate Samsung , hate cheapest , pastic , ugly , same and same and same again ever forever design SamEsung is his real name But I like K Zoom as gadget


Majority of phones out there have plastic even Nokia. It's just named polycarbonate to make it sound better. From what I have learned that plastic lasts a long time & dents & scratches alot less than metal. Samsung's plastics are actually more durable than you may think. My Note 3 is rock solid & it is not heavy so the lighter it is, the lighter it falls. My brother had a Samsung for 2 years & it never cracked or bent. Yes metal is nice but it doesn't make it any more durable. Samsung had some issues with cracked casings on GS3 etc but that was resolved. Sony had many issues with their glass & plastic. Glass & aluminium fare alot worse in drop tests. I much prefer the plastic Samsung uses now which is no longer glossy


Posted by Tsepz_GP
The fact that Nokia, a veteran at building solid phones uses polycarbonate rather than metal in the vast majority of their phones says it all, IMO. The whole plastic vs. metal argument was long settled IMO, metal just complicates everything.

Miromiromi

It's their Cameraphone but it doesn't have to have the best optics as it isn't a premium device, Samsung put the point of the K in its name: ZOOM, that's what its about, clearly the ISOCELL camera is either meant for the top end OR due to production issues (remember they had this with S5?) they've decided to go with a Sony sensor in the K Zoom and get production of the ISOCELL ready for Note 4.

Posted by Sassho

On 2014-04-30 21:38:16, Bonovox wrote:
Glass & aluminium fare alot worse in drop tests.

Hi Bono. I agree metal/aluminium body not are good for drops , scratch tests , but metal body absolutely necessary for better heat cooling on very powerful android devices. In hands metal body better feeling too.

Posted by cu015170

On 2014-04-30 15:26:02, miromiromi wrote:
i'm quite sure this will best pureview 808 and 1020.


In terms of IQ, no.

In terms of zooming, yes.

The nokia package is much more compact, hence the zooming ability is not that great. If you look at the size vs. zoom abilities of both devices you might change your mind.



Posted by northmonkey

On 2014-04-30 23:14:24, cu015170 wrote:

On 2014-04-30 15:26:02, miromiromi wrote:
i'm quite sure this will best pureview 808 and 1020.


In terms of IQ, no.

In terms of zooming, yes.

The nokia package is much more compact, hence the zooming ability is not that great. If you look at the size vs. zoom abilities of both devices you might change your mind.




But the 1020 can zoom 25x after photos so surely that's an advantage over the K Zoom?

Have to say though, these shots from the K Zoom are quite good.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7226/14055774972_46d611eaf4_o.jpg
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2917/14059416724_fa72bbfe97_o.jpg
[ This Message was edited by: northmonkey on 2014-04-30 22:28 ]


Posted by Sassho
No needs long range 10x zoom in real life , 3x is more usable and better for optic specs. K Zoom not is the Best cameraphone , not is simply Best , but is nice toy. I want try it

Posted by cu015170

On 2014-04-30 23:25:45, northmonkey wrote:
But the 1020 can zoom 25x after photos so surely that's an advantage over the K Zoom?

Have to say though, these shots from the K Zoom are quite good.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7226/14055774972_46d611eaf4_o.jpg
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2917/14059416724_fa72bbfe97_o.jpg
[ This Message was edited by: northmonkey on 2014-04-30 22:28 ]



Its totally different.. its one thing to zoom in to a 41Mpix shots and another to optically zoom in using glass elements. The 1020/808 concept works great for a smartphone since there are no movable parts, which results in a more compact, lighter, and physically more reliable package.. but it can't compete with real zoom lenses in terms of magnification and quality retention.



Posted by Sassho
Remember K-Zoom's GrandPa - Samsung W880 12mp , look's really great and small
http://www.mobile-phone.pk/samsung_w880_amoled_12m-pictures-2069/


Posted by Tsepz_GP
We can go even further back to Samsungs 1st Optical Zoom phone, the Symbian S60 based G810:

Samsung G810 Specs

They've always had this obsession with Optical Zoom.

Posted by Sassho

On 2014-05-01 10:12:19, Tsepz_GP wrote:
They've always had this obsession with Optical Zoom.

G810 has clever optical scheme, without outside moving parts - same as Vario Tessar Lens


Posted by Tsepz_GP
It's was much like the Nokia N93, the moving parts were inside, if I'm not mistaken G810 owners did complain of the camera making a noise if you're zooming while recording a video, it would ruin the sound.

Either way, Samsung have been pursuing this for a long time, I can't wait until the day they bring all this into one beast of a flagship once all the tech is refined.

Posted by cu015170
Its starting to look like a Nokia cameraphone



Posted by davidsic
It's thick but not bad looking.

This will be my next cause my s5 begin to struggle at iso 80 (blurry shake)

Posted by northmonkey
I'm very tempted to get one too, the OIS, 10x zoom, it's not too thick or too heavy and it's got Xenon and reasonable specs so if it's out before I go on holiday at the end of June then I'll be getting one and I can test it out properly when I go away.

Posted by etaab
It does look great huh ? I wasn't impressed by last years S4 Zoom, but this is much nicer.

I still don't think i'll have the spare cash to buy one though, anytime soon, ever !

Posted by northmonkey

On 2014-05-02 22:52:27, etaab wrote:
It does look great huh ? I wasn't impressed by last years S4 Zoom, but this is much nicer.

I still don't think i'll have the spare cash to buy one though, anytime soon, ever !



I know a couple of people who have the S4 Zoom and it's not as bad to use as you might think, these days people take pictures with tablets and all sorts, a lot of people who say bad things about the S4 zoom have never used one or looked at one, it's not perfect and it's quite bulky but it does rival a mid range compact camera for quality.

The K Zoom is a big improvement though and they have done a very good job slimming it down, if you want a very good camera and phone together I don't see a better alternative especially as it will be the best all round camera on Android.

When there's OIS and Xenon Flash along with proper zoom there's no competition, it's my ideal device.

Posted by cu015170
Very nice

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7196/14071206345_38eac9f5e7_o.jpg

wider than the 808 and it shows very good sharpness/detail in the middle of the frame.
[ This Message was edited by: cu015170 on 2014-05-03 02:14 ]


Posted by Bonovox
I always wondered who would be the first manufacturer to release a phone with folded optics like Sony The series cameras?? I know that folded optics generally produce worse images but I wondered if Samsung would ever do that.

Posted by Sassho
Hi all Many fullsized K-Zoom shots found in Flickr
https://www.flickr.com/photos[....]644385910726/with/14058985155/

I get and resize it to 8mp










Samples not good , not bad - simply cheap compact camera quality. I would take K-Zoom only as funny toy , I would......
[ This Message was edited by: Sassho on 2014-05-03 07:51 ]


Posted by razec

On 2014-05-01 10:12:19, Tsepz_GP wrote:
We can go even further back to Samsungs 1st Optical Zoom phone, the Symbian S60 based G810:

Samsung G810 Specs

They've always had this obsession with Optical Zoom.



Pffft





Posted by northmonkey
Sassho, I've seen much better samples than that on Flickr.

Also the S4 Zoom had mid range compact camera quality that was confirmed by trusted reviews, phonearena etc, so the K Zoom won't have less quality so it is better than a cheap compact camera.
[ This Message was edited by: northmonkey on 2014-05-03 12:45 ]


Posted by northmonkey







[ This Message was edited by: northmonkey on 2014-05-03 13:26 ]


Posted by Sassho
@northmonkey - Exmor RS sensor in K-Zoom is good , but has again strong noise reduction. Ofcourse this take down detail. Lens not a Best with this 10x Zoom. K-Zoom look's as funny toy , nothing more.
[ This Message was edited by: Sassho on 2014-05-03 14:47 ]


Posted by northmonkey

On 2014-05-03 15:45:11, Sassho wrote:
@northmonkey - Exmor RS sensor in K-Zoom is good , but has again strong noise reduction. Ofcourse this take down detail. Lens not a Best with this 10x Zoom. K-Zoom look's as funny toy , nothing more.
[ This Message was edited by: Sassho on 2014-05-03 14:47 ]



Of course picture quality won't be very good when zoomed in 8x-10x because it's at the far end of the zoom.

I don't think any Android cameraphone is better than this or even close.

Posted by miromiromi
i don't think there's any significant or even noticeable difference between 2x, 3x, 4x ... 8x and 10x zooming. the zooming here is an optical one. there will be no noticeable image degradation between zoom levels. your concern regarding degrading image quality when zooming is only applicable on digital "lossless" zooming like the one employed by 1020.

maybe you'll just have problems with the shake since a small shake can be amplified as many times as you increase your zoom. i'm not sure how the k zoom's OIS will perform.
[ This Message was edited by: miromiromi on 2014-05-04 01:42 ]



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