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Posted by adsada


Specs:


It has the exact same body as the Nokia N9, which makes sense because it's a pretty neat design which would be wasted if left just for the N9, plus they've only had since the start of the year to start developing Windows phones, and so obviously this is a quick way by reusing designs already developed...

This will be their flagship as they make the transition from Symbian to Windows
[ This Message was edited by: adsada on 2011-11-16 18:12 ]



Posted by Tsepz_GP
WOW that is......not quite as amazing as i was expecting (actualy i wasnt expecting much)....best of luck to Nokia, not at all convinced by this, if i was looking to get a WP id rather get a HD7 or Titan at that price.

Posted by razec
N8 users who wanted the same camera performance for its successor were left in the dark I don't think this phone is a nokia flagship at all

Posted by goldenface
Live updates on the home screen instead of notifications is very good, its a huge step forward. I think this will do pretty well.

Posted by laffen
Correction to the specs: HSPA. Not HSPA+ (HSDPA cat 10: 14.4 Mbps, HSUPA cat 6: 5.76 Mbps)

Posted by masseur
there's a load of videos on youtube with hand on and demoing features

Posted by Ravager
one word, disappointment...
just 3,7 inch screen compared to 3,9 in the N9 and no NFC
I still love the design but the N9 seems as a much better option I were to choose between them both.
Anyway, this is good news for Sony Ericsson i guess


Posted by Bonovox
There will be more better handsets announced I am sure. Be patient

Posted by bravofly
Good luck Nokia, considering the name it will be a hit in Spanish-speaking countries

Posted by hihihans
I've seen the light and it's on the dark side.
I'm blue yabba dee yabba doo
Half November Yes yes yes

Posted by Bonovox
Why no Nokia 900 yet??

Posted by hihihans
I think you'll have to wait for 3 months to see Lumia900

Posted by Bonovox
Come on Nokia you had ages to plan for this & all we get is 2 phones??

Posted by hihihans
They promised a new one every 3 months.

I'm gonna be so happy at November 17

Posted by Bonovox
Good!! It is a nice device but I am not jumping in yet.

Posted by hihihans
I'll test it for you

Posted by Bonovox
Yes thanks it's normally the other way round I buy & you observe

Posted by adsada

On 2011-10-26 21:50:37, Bonovox wrote:
Yes thanks it's normally the other way round I buy & you observe



bono is that you in your gravatar?
[ This Message was edited by: adsada on 2011-10-26 21:21 ]


Posted by Bonovox
Yep it was a professional( ) photo shoot at Jessops for free

Posted by hihihans
Just one small little wish to find in the box


Posted by Marly
Hej, Hans, so you've decided to go for the blue one ? 16 gig plus 25 in the cloud should be enough, I suppose

Posted by hihihans
Yes. More as enough.
I'm really looking forward to hold it in my hands

Posted by Marly
I fully understand that , it looks stunning, not the boring black or silver smartphone for a change.
After using my Trophy for six weeks now, I think it's great : fast and smooth! The 800 will probably have a better camera and better build quality as those always have been strong points of Nokia phones, my Nokia E7 has the best build quality I've ever seen in a phone.
So I'm waiting for a Nokia WP7.5 phone with the keyboard of the E7, that would be an awesome device!

Posted by hihihans
I'm sure they'll make one some day.

Posted by razec
I'm loving the white Lumia 710's, how i wished 800 has white version as well. Dual core android users will surely bash the single core CPU on this but the general performance is perfectly fluid, also the home button reacts in a blink of an eye.

Posted by hihihans
At 710 all fronts are white so just don't turn it around. For 800, who knows. There is a N9 in white coming.


Posted by false_morel
The Lumia 800 is just the very first step!
Nokia had 7 months only to work with MS and develop for WP!! They can't do wonders after all..

It's clear though that Nokia aren't in for specs wars! They want to introduce something different. They're focusing on differentiating factors.. They want the people to view them as unique as possible, not just another OEM in the smartphone arena..

2012 will be the year Nokia re-enters the competition at all levels, from the the highest-end to its lowest..
As Elop hinted again in a recent interview to elements brought from the N9's UX and Qt environment over to the Lumia family, one could expect some UI customisations coming their way, as well as some introducing some tech like NFC, and more significant apps and integration (Skype comes to mind), as well as another camera revolution after the N8!
Nokia have been hinting for a while now for such a camera upgrade by saying that what's introduced in the N8 and N9 are just a portion of what they have in their labs..

It's a start of a new era at Nokia. What they're heading to, or at least would like to achieve is make the world talk about the iPhone, Android, and Lumia. Will they succeed in that? We shall see..

With the Lumia 800, they did manage to introduce something different.. But there are still big steps ahead, and a long way to go..

Posted by Bonovox
But there will be more than this obviously. The only thing that is strange is that they did not start off with a big flagship top smartphone like 4.3 inch screen etc, etc..... The camera is decent on this model as shots show but that alone is no longer enough these days just having a great camera.


Posted by Marly
Not everybody wants such a large phone, I don't want the screen of my phones to be more than 4 inch, but when I really would want something larger, 4.3 wouldn't be much of a difference, I'd buy a tablet instead and keep my 4 inch phone.

Posted by hihihans
Agreed. 3.7" is enough for me.
If Nokia would start with big and fast there could be no upgrade.

Posted by masseur
funny how everyone comments that the iphone screen is not big enough and yet suddenly this Nokia screen is fine! even though there is a miniscule .2" difference and yet the Nokia screen is only 800 x 480 resolution while the iPhone is 960 x 460 (i.e. 1.6 times as many pixels)!

I do like the look of the 800 and when it (or a successor) gets Nokia maps, its probably the windows phone 7 phone that I will get as my first taster of the new o/s

Posted by Bonovox
I wanna try Nokia Windows phones but not too early on. I wanna see how well they do and how good they become.

Posted by hihihans
Not long ago I thought iPhone was big
It has Nokia Maps.

Posted by Marly

On 2011-10-29 02:31:38, masseur wrote:
funny how everyone comments that the iphone screen is not big enough


Not "everyone", I've never said, the iPhone screen is nog big enough, on the contrary, as a woman, I have small hands and those big, but thin phones are very uncomfortable for me to use.

Posted by masseur

On 2011-10-29 02:59:25, Marly wrote:

On 2011-10-29 02:31:38, masseur wrote:
funny how everyone comments that the iphone screen is not big enough


Not "everyone", I've never said, the iPhone screen is nog big enough, on the contrary, as a woman, I have small hands and those big, but thin phones are very uncomfortable for me to use.


indeed it was your post, and that of hihihans, and those I've read on other forums that caused me to post the opinion that you quoted.

there's so much conflicting opinion on screen size which is largely based on bias out there...

Posted by hihihans
it also has something to with getting used to. 4.3 looks like something one can surf on but I'm sure that in a while I change my mind.

Posted by Miss UK
This is a cute little phone
reminds me of Apple's nano 4g a little (minus the jog)

I hope its a sucess for Nokia!

Posted by masseur
@hihihans
I quite got used to 4.3" when I had the Samsang Galaxy S2 but I didn't miss it after nearly 2 months usage when I sold that phone and continued on with the iPhone.

Screen size is not the single factor that makes a phone choice for me and indeed if the iPhone had a 4.3" screen it would make it all that more interesting for me and even harder to change device

still hoping the iphone 5 takes that step

Posted by hihihans
Nokia Windows Phones to get
exclusive EA games.
Found it at wmpowerusers

Posted by masseur
EA do the same frequently, e.g. the Play and even in the iphone app store occassionally
they can then use it as a platform for getting more sales.
standard practice IMHO

Posted by Bonovox
I always said that around 3.7 inches was about right for a screen. But since having the GS2 I now realise I missed the big screen for browsing especially!! @masseur I happen to actually really notice the difference in use between 3.5 to 3.7 strangely even though it seems small in comparison. I give credit to Nokia that they are going to release more affordable Windows Phones.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/9626628.stm
[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2011-10-29 20:40 ]


Posted by masseur
watching reviews of this lumia 800 now makes me realise why I'm hesitant.

I've been on the internet since the days of a mosaic browser on the DEC VMS computers in the early/mid 90's where gopher was the only search facility available.

I've never liked online presence and don't do twitter, facebook etc and actually googling my name brings only one real result which is LinkedIn but then due to their privacy settings you have to be a member and connected to me to see any more.

I originally was put off by the iOS 5 integration of twitter but since it is actually only to be used if you have a twitter account I have since become relaxed about that.

The trouble is that if a device is being marketed largely around its social aspects I simply lose interest immediately as it suggests that other functionality is probably background/secondary, though I understand that many people do have online presence these days.

My friends know my phone number and email address and they will contact me by those methods if they want a 'real' chat and catchup

Posted by Bonovox
Yeah i hate Face Book and social networks myself

Posted by hihihans
I do have all that social crap but I do understand the danger in it.
I'm not sure about the advantage of full intergration but i'm willing to try it. I can always stop it.

Posted by Marly
From my own experience with my Trophy (2 months now) I can say, that if you haven't set up an account, you don't see anything Facebook-ish on the phone, even the little FB-logo in the People-hub in new phones, won't appear anymore, when you've set up your email etc., but no Facebook.

Without good social media integration you don't sell phones nowadays, so they had to integrate it (and it's been very well done), but there's no need to use it, when you don't want to, I don't "do" FB myself either, don't hate it though, a few friends have it and I have a look at their pages once in a while, only to find out, that they haven't updated it , they're not addicted to it, which is good.

When you have other needs, than social media integration, reviews are pretty useless, all reviewers look at the same things.
A friend, sys-admin of a large site, has a Nokia N900, with which he can do lots more than any reviewer would think you'd be able to do with a phone. Now he's interested in a N9 and he wants to know, whether he can do these things with it aswell, but there's been no review yet, where he's read even a tiny little bit about these options, probably because none of the reviewers would know, how to do it.

@masseur: nice new avatar
[ This Message was edited by: Marly on 2011-10-30 18:12 ]


Posted by false_morel

On 2011-10-30 13:24:28, hihihans wrote:
I'm not sure about the advantage of full intergration but i'm willing to try it. I can always stop it.


Well, be aware, it's addictive!!
Even for someone like me, who used to check his facebook once or twice a week, and used Twitter just for the sake of it, I now use these two constantly just because of WP!!

I don't share that the view on security concerning social networking, but always thought it's a waste of time! Like instead of spending at least an hour on facebook and the likes each day, I could do much more worthy things..

But with WP's integration, having these service on in my pocket all the time, push updates, and easy to use, I really can't see the time being wasted now.. I still rarely use such services on PC, but the phone really brought me in these social networks..

Like I open the People hub and there go all the updates from facebook and twitter as well as Live messenger concerning my contacts.. I could filter them if I wanna read the latest Tweets for instance.. And retweeting or replying is just two clicks away.. I could do that while in a bus, waiting in some queue, even waiting at a red light or in a traffic...

I could group my contacts as well.. Pin the group to the start screen, and whenever an update arrives, I'll be notified by the respective tile.. Be it a tweet, a photo uploaded, etc..

Then you have the great conversation app!! It includes SMS, live messenger, and facebook chat all in one (not sure if there are chatting services supported).. One thread for each contact regardless of the chatting service used.. One flow of text.. Instant notifications as well.. You could set your status for the entire phone.. Once someone starts chatting with you, you'll instantly know.. You can see who's online as well..
Whatsapp also functions the same with but with a separate tile and app..

And knowing that Skype is coming its way with a similar integration is great!
Skype is the only missing link for me.. I use facebook chat, live messenger, and Skype.. And SMSing of course..

@ Bono

All these things are coming.. Nokia will be introducing all that missing functionality.. That's why this Lumia is just the very first step.. They can't do everything in one single step specially that they've been only seven month transitioning..
But for now, this Lumia should tick many boxes, specially those boxes of the average user who's looking for a distinguishable quality design, and best UX for major functionality everybody uses.. That would be social networking, email, chat, imaging, and music..

Posted by hihihans
Im gonna find all out 18 days

Posted by false_morel
As I read my last post again, it really sounded like one of those commercials you watch on TV interviewing a customer and asking for his experience before and after trying a specífic product!

I didn't know I had such a marketing talent! Anyone looking for someone to do his ads?

Posted by hihihans
I've found my perfect deal
For a total of less then €500 on a 1 year contract at the best network

Posted by Bonovox
What's the deal with what you get??


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