Posted by deddot
K850 is an old phone and there are so many camdriver for K850..
yet i still decide to share my camdriver..
because it have some new features and this day is my birthday and i want to share the joy..
features:
- Dynamic Flash™: different flash mode for auto, night potrait, potrait and forced flash.
- EasyShutter™ . Automatic switch function shutter speed and EV on flash shot.
- Image Enhancer. turn on stabilizer for wider shutter speed and ISO range.
this function work when you see stabilizer icon on display.
- Night Landscape tweak: 2s exposure.
- RER flash is forced flash.
- SmartMode™.
- and some other tweaks.
DOWNLOAD HERE
latest is 1.2
first release 2011-02-17
update 2011-02-19.
- fix the white balance mess..
update 2011-02-21
- add color correction
- fix the dynamic flash updating only when switching flash mode but not when switching scenes.
update 2011-02-27
- fix the color correction
(add color correction to remove yellowish for twilight potrait)
(add a little more sharpness and saturation)
- redefined Dynamic Flash
update 2011-02-28
- fix over contrast for non flash shot
update 2011-03-01
- add color corection for twilight landscape
update 2011-03-02
- new feature added. EasyShutter
update 2011-03-07
- more sharpness and saturation
- fix EasyShutter
update 2011-04-02
- new beta feature! zoom in and EV button will turn its function into other fits for each scene. zoom out back to 100% and EV button will turn its function into exposure again.
- Landscape & Twilight landscape. exposure lock
- Sport. manual shutter.
- Document. manual focus.
- Others. manual saturation.
- dynamic white balance for flash.
- adjusted white balance for non flash shot.
[ This Message was edited by: deddot on 2011-06-28 19:16 ]
Posted by najaf
Good News For K850i Holders,
But first Upload Some Pictures,
Posted by amnher
Finally a cam driver. Hope you will be active. Cause I love k850i. The last one I used was best shutters by bluechip. Its fine but problem is too much yellow on flash especially @ twilight p mode
Posted by amnher
here is my indoor flash shots. Since k850i almost every driver performs well in good lighting condition.
Auto Flash Shots(Noticed that flash fires 2 times but twilight portrait does not)
Twilight portrait
Macro
Truly macro is now manual. EV is the tool by lowering and raising it. But there are times we need auto function on macro maybe you can put it somewhere. and oh version is 99.9 hahaha
The only concern I have is the reds. bluechip was able to fix those reds but the problem is pictures are a bit yellowish. I notice on stock driver when camera use ISO200, reds become pale or pink. ISO 100 still keeps it accurate. Ill post more
[ This Message was edited by: amnher on 2011-02-18 02:14 ]
Posted by amnher
Out door daylight
Sorry ive got no good subject
One thing I notice when I set WB to Daylight it becomes like this
Posted by deddot
sorry about the white balance.. i already notice that, but forget to fix it
sample shots
night potrait with +2.0 EV value
night scene, 2s exposure
if you want to take macro shots, i suggest use doc scene..
I'll make comparison shots later..
[ This Message was edited by: deddot on 2011-02-27 07:48 ]
Posted by amnher
Just wanna ask what is the idea behind two flash in auto? is there a way to turn on af led during doc scene?
Pictures are nice no over yellowish. Good job.
Can you test some low light scene maybe 2-3m away
[ This Message was edited by: amnher on 2011-02-19 00:49 ]
Posted by deddot
the idea of two flash shot is because... i like it
.. lol..
i just want to make this driver have a noticed different with other camdriver, because there are so many of them..
Dynamic Flash(tm) shots flash in this way..
- two flash in auto
- one flash in forced flash (all scene). try daylight shots with RER on.
- in night potrait. One flash in auto. three flash in RER
- in potrait. Three flash in auto. four flash in RER
[ This Message was edited by: deddot on 2011-02-20 01:04 ]
Posted by amnher
Test outdoor shots with Daylight WB(Does WB works?)
Sorry forgot to rotate
Red test(Still not real red, pinkish)
Macro shots
superb
Macro forced RER
Posted by amnher
On 2011-02-19 09:45:00, deddot wrote:
the idea of two flash shot is because... i like it
.. lol..
i just want to make this driver have a noticed different with other camdriver, because there are so many of them..
Dynamic Flash(tm) shots flash in this way..
- two flash in auto
- one flash in forced flash (all scene). try daylight shots with RER on.
- in night potrait. One flash in auto. three flash in RER
- in potrait. Three flash in auto. four flash in RER
But making it that way will deplete the life of flash faster?
Posted by deddot
But making it that way will deplete the life of flash faster?
well, i've read someone said that on four flash shots.. but before this, i've using anouk driver for several times and it also have four flash shots and my phone is ok..
anyway i've made another fix.. i forgot to put several lines on the first one..
check out the first post...
comparison shots..
Anouk 4.0
bEsT sHuTTeRs
Cybershot XP 9.5
Navar 9.2 x3
Original 3.7
Cybershot 99.9
[ This Message was edited by: deddot on 2011-02-20 13:23 ]
Posted by amnher
Nice compatrison. can you post some indoor low light far away flash shots?
By the way. Any change log?
[ This Message was edited by: amnher on 2011-02-20 16:15 ]
Posted by amnher
camera doesn't work. Camera version is 99.9 but camera instantly closes upon launching
Posted by deddot
oops.. sorry... there are accidental keyboard press on doc manual version.. links updated..
Posted by amnher
Hello thanks for the update I noticed something though its not a big issue. When something is set to focus then a shot is taken. After taking picture, focus is fixed unlike other drivers that everytime picture is taken, focus is reset.
Posted by deddot
well.. i know that, because i made it like that.. the focus is stay after taking picture and not reseting..
same reason as Dynamic Flash.. i like it and want to make some different..
Sample shot twilight far away..
Using auto
Using twilight potrait
if you taking twilight far away picture with flash, i'm suggest raising EV.. it will raise the shutter speed..
or just use twilight landscape.
[ This Message was edited by: deddot on 2011-02-23 11:07 ]
Posted by amnher
Nice shot! thats very good. Is that flash? may be have some sample with dining area with low light. We don;t need manual mode. we only need Shutter speed. And this driver does the job. By the way is ISO always stays on 100/200?
[ This Message was edited by: amnher on 2011-02-23 12:50 ]
Posted by amnher
There is one thing I like... For example I want to take a shot in non outdoor.. And I turn off the flash... it seems shutter speed doesn't work. I notice high ISO and noise. Same both Twilight portrait and auto
Posted by deddot
By the way is ISO always stays on 100/200?
not always, but mostly.. the flower picture is using ISO-64
There is one thing I like... For example I want to take a shot in non outdoor.. And I turn off the flash... it seems shutter speed doesn't work. I notice high ISO and noise. Same both Twilight portrait and auto
shutter speed only work for flash shots.. i made it as "replacement" for exposure in non flash shots..
these function switch automatically..
[ This Message was edited by: deddot on 2011-02-23 17:51 ]
Posted by amnher
Is there a way maybe a turn on function of shutter speed for non flash shot?like replacing the stabilizer since stabilizer doesn't effect a thing for me? It would be useful. Another thing in your opinion when does this scene is used based on the configuration of the driver?
T.Landscape
T.Portrait
Portrait
Landscape
Snow
Docu
Thanks and sorry for too much question
[ This Message was edited by: amnher on 2011-02-24 10:53 ]
Posted by amnher
Some outdoor shots. Auto+Daylight
Posted by deddot
Is there a way maybe a turn on function of shutter speed for non flash shot?like replacing the stabilizer since stabilizer doesn't effect a thing for me? It would be useful.
i was planing to put manual shutter speed on twilight landscape or landscape scene, but then i then i decided not to use it.. i'll consider to put it back again..
Another thing in your opinion when does this scene is used based on the configuration of the driver?
T.Landscape
T.Portrait
Portrait
Landscape
Snow
Docu
T.Landscape
T.Portrait
Portrait
Landscape
Snow
Docu
the scene is used just like the name..
Posted by D1ma
I think focus a little blurish, can you do it like in anouk driver??
Posted by amnher
On 2011-02-24 18:33:35, deddot wrote:
Is there a way maybe a turn on function of shutter speed for non flash shot?like replacing the stabilizer since stabilizer doesn't effect a thing for me? It would be useful.
i was planing to put manual shutter speed on twilight landscape or landscape scene, but then i then i decided not to use it.. i'll consider to put it back again..
Another thing in your opinion when does this scene is used based on the configuration of the driver?
T.Landscape
T.Portrait
Portrait
Landscape
Snow
Docu
T.Landscape
T.Portrait
Portrait
Landscape
Snow
Docu
the scene is used just like the name..
Hmm how about an option for non flash shot for either Shutter speed or EV.. Just a suggestion.
Posted by deddot
driver updated.! (check page 1)
i made some changes, due to issue four flash can deplete the Xenon flash, although there is no evidence for it.. i don't want to take the risk, since i have 3 time replacing LCD's (not the original so the quality is low) and two time replacing keytone..
and i dont want to spend another money to replacing the xenon light...
i revert the double flash back to one..
mm how about an option for non flash shot for either Shutter speed or EV.. Just a suggestion.
try this
DOWNLOAD HERE updated.!
- Auto Flash for automatic flash shutter & EV
- RER Forced Flash for manual shutter speed (flash on)
- Flash Off for manual shutter speed (flash off)
this function work on auto scene..
[ This Message was edited by: deddot on 2011-03-02 08:56 ]
Posted by amnher
Whoa flash is really fast during auto hmmm focussing is really fast...
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K850 Cybershot 99.9 by Deddod
[ This Message was edited by: amnher on 2011-02-27 23:33 ]
Posted by amnher
it seems all my daylight shots are overexposed
Posted by amnher
This are auto+daylight some adjusted EV overexpose. used driver "_shutter" or the one in the first page.
Posted by deddot
you right, please wait another update..
thanks for your feed back..
[ This Message was edited by: deddot on 2011-02-28 02:03 ]
Posted by deddot
another update
fix over exposed (actually its over contrast...)
@amnher
i modified the shutter version..
now the manual shutter only work when you turn flash off in auto scene.. the previous one turn all scene without flash into manual shutter...
DOWNLOAD HERE updated.!
[ This Message was edited by: deddot on 2011-03-02 08:58 ]
Posted by amnher
It seems shutter speed doesn't work on flash off
Flash off. +2 EV
[ This Message was edited by: amnher on 2011-03-01 01:34 ]
Posted by deddot
hmmm... its work on me..
try this one
i'm affraid i upload the wrong version..
Posted by amnher
Okay tried it and heres the sample comparison of
Twilight Landscape
Auto,flash off, ev +2.0
It is working well now...
I just need to study the measurement of right shutter speed
Driver is near perfect for k850i.... the best of all I used great work deddot
By the way have you ever thought of considering the strategical approach of raiderski?
The legendary "EM Mode" and "SEM Mode"???
By the way what settings did you used above??
[ This Message was edited by: amnher on 2011-03-02 02:07 ]
Posted by amnher
I think there is a bug in switching scenes from other scene to auto. Let's say portrait scene which is ISO 100 I guess and the auto scene uses ISO200. When I first use auto no matter how many times I took a shot, ISO is 200 which is very appropriate in the current atmosphere. when I switch to portrait the shot is darker due to lower ISO. but upon return to auto again, it still as if i'm in portrait mode. Do you get me?
Posted by deddot
you right, but actually its not a bug.. i remove the default ISO from Auto scene. i though the driver will update the ISO itself..
i put back the default ISO200 to auto scene
actually i found a bug too.. the preview didn't update after you switching flash mode from OFF to AUTO..
but its fixed now..
the shutter version now official.. check first post..
Posted by amnher
On 2011-03-02 10:26:00, deddot wrote:
you right, but actually its not a bug.. i remove the default ISO from Auto scene. i though the driver will update the ISO itself..
i put back the default ISO200 to auto scene
actually i found a bug too.. the preview didn't update after you switching flash mode from OFF to AUTO..
but its fixed now..
the shutter version now official.. check first post..
I have some questions. Sorry if theres so many.
1. flash ISO is 200? Isee while T portrait is 100? how about flash iso of portrait?
2. Whats that easyshutter?
3. What settings did you use for that night shot?
4. Have you considered the idea of EM or SEM like what raiderski did?
Your driver really rocks! thumbsup!
Just a suggestion. I think It would be good you start doing your versions(Version number) for testing purposes also.
[ This Message was edited by: amnher on 2011-03-02 10:44 ]
Posted by NoelBonel
Good day.
Yes, I was also curious about that Easy Shutter thing. Was is it actually?
Amnher, you're a Filipino right? I'm an avid k850i user to let you know he he. I've been using it for three years now.
Posted by deddot
1. Default Flash ISO is 200 in Auto and 100 in portrait. But it can change depend on the environment light
2. EasyShutter is a nickname i gave for the automatic switch and easy access of manual shutter/EV
3. You can take picture like that with auto, flash off, +2.0 EV or simply use twilight landscape.. both are using 2 seconds exposure time.. make sure you hold the camera very still or just put it on a desk or something.
4. What is EM and SEM mode.? is it the one that using EV for select function and use zoom to adjust it.?
my driver just using a different approach on modifying the driver..
i'm glad you like it.. thanks..
[ This Message was edited by: deddot on 2011-03-02 11:20 ]
Posted by amnher
On 2011-03-02 11:49:25, NoelBonel wrote:
Good day.
Yes, I was also curious about that Easy Shutter thing. Was is it actually?
Amnher, you're a Filipino right? I'm an avid k850i user to let you know he he. I've been using it for three years now.
Yeah. I had my k850i almost three months ago brand new from Sony store.
On 2011-03-02 12:15:00, deddot wrote:
1. Default Flash ISO is 200 in Auto and 100 in portrait. But it can change depend on the environment light
2. EasyShutter is a nickname i gave for the automatic switch and easy access of manual shutter/EV
3. You can take picture like that with auto, flash off, +2.0 EV or simply use twilight landscape.. both are using 2 seconds exposure time.. make sure you hold the camera very still or just put it on a desk or something.
4. What is EM and SEM mode.? is it the one that using EV for select function and use zoom to adjust it.?
my driver just using a different approach on modifying the driver..
i'm glad you like it.. thanks..
[ This Message was edited by: deddot on 2011-03-02 11:20 ]
Enhance mode
This is from Raiderski post
Enhanced Modes
it's a new and main feature which can dramatically improve picture quality in low light conditions. look at 100% crops below to see how modes work...
#1 is standard automatic mode
ISO 640, exposure time 1/8s
a lot of noise, huge loss of details and underexposed scene
#2 is hybrid SEM
ISO 400, exposure time 1/3s
better quality but still weak
#3 is hybrid EM
ISO 200, exposure time 3/4s
quality is much better. lower ISO and longer exposure time can do the trick, however exposure time is crucial parameter from now. if you can't hold your hand still then you should expect more or less blurred pictures in low light conditions. if you have nearby stable support for the camera - use it!
hybrid modes are sort of compromise between quality and exposure time. they can help a lot if you can't hold hand still for too long time but you need better quality
#4 is SEM
ISO 100, exposure time 1s
from now ISO 100 will try to preserve as much details as possible
#5 is EM
ISO 100, exposure time 2s
actually this is what K800 really can do when pushed to max - lowest ISO and longest exposure time
all mentioned above modes are fully automatic, all you have to do is to enable them and enjoy results. however it's not all what they can do because 2 of them (SEM and EM) can be used together with manual ISO. results are quite interesting. for example manual ISO 250...
#6 is +EM
ISO 250, exposure time 2s
exposure time used together (+) with manually selected ISO value. this mode might be very helpful in very dark conditions when xenon lamp is useless (bright subject at large distance)
#7 is -EM
ISO 250, exposure time 3/4s
in this mode exposure time is reduced (-) by ISO value which means: higher ISO = lower exposure time = loss of details. in some aspects this mode is very similar to hybrid EM but in this mode you can fully control compromise of quality and speed
for SEM mode names are respectively +SEM and -SEM
There are pictures suppose to be but pictures are not anymore available.
To put it into simple thought: Camera driver computes for itself the best appropriate ISO and shutter speed proportionally not having too dark and not too bright pictures. Too much shutter speed causes over bright while too much low darkens. Same with ISO. I don't know how but I thing EM(Longer) are the long mode which uses ISO 100 while SEM(Quicker) is ISO200. The shutter speed for both modes are computed automatically and adjusted by the driver itself based on the ligthing condition. But Enhance mode is different on Flash off and flash on since flash is instant and not long for long exposure to capture. No one has ever tried it in k850i I guess but it is existing on k750i,w800i,w810i,k800i,k810i modded drivers by raiderski and strong.
[ This Message was edited by: amnher on 2011-03-02 11:39 ]
Posted by deddot
i don't know how does the picture quality for each settings and how does the settings work.. so i can't tell anything about it...
#5 is EM
ISO 100, exposure time 2s
actually this is what K800 really can do when pushed to max - lowest ISO and longest exposure time
ISO 100, exposure time 2s
actually this is what K800 really can do when pushed to max - lowest ISO and longest exposure time
you can have this with Auto, flash off and +2.0 EV
but for now ISO is fixed to 100, i need to find a method to raise ISO with fast shutter
[ This Message was edited by: deddot on 2011-03-02 17:03 ]
Posted by DivineJakiro
Fast shutter, you now are research for?
Posted by amnher
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maybe you can just set sem to iso 200 and em to 100. The only problem is, how will the cam driver wil calculate the right shuter speed based on the lighting condition?that is enhance mode. Maybe we can ask raiderski
Posted by deddot
@DivineJakiro
i'm trying to the best way to integrate 'SEM and EM' with EasyShutter.. I have one idea in mind but need to test it first..
@amnher
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The only problem is, how will the cam driver wil calculate the right shuter speed based on the lighting condition? |
actually its a default feature.. what we can do is change its behaviour..
@all
please try this one
DOWNLOAD HERE
change.
- shutter speed and ISO on 0.0EV now automatic.
- EV from +0.3 to +2.0 is slow shutter with low ISO.
- EV from -0.3 to -2.0 is fast shutter with high ISO. the highest ISO is 1000 on -2.0EV with 1/500 exposure time.
known bug.
- On Auto Scene, Flash Off : if you raise EV on EV -0.3 to -2.0 , the shutter speed is not updating.
trick : raise the EV one step higher and then go back down again one step. example, if you want to go from -2.0 to -1.0 , goto -0.7 first and then go back to -1.0
this will trick the bug..
[ This Message was edited by: deddot on 2011-03-03 16:31 ]
Posted by amnher
Can you provide some screenshot of this new feature? cause I dont get it hmmm
The idea of EM and SEM is to provide user a one click setting(Automatically) that sets the camera itself the appropriate shutter speed and ISO depending on light luminousity As we notice most shot are fix at ISO200 with SS of 1/250. EM does it differently. It can be that setting or even have lower or higher. As we know 2S shutter speed with ISO100 is not good all the time. I could link here raiderski's camera drivers of k750i and k800i containing EM mode for refference if you like. I will support the best way I can.
By the way wheres the link?
[ This Message was edited by: amnher on 2011-03-03 10:51 ]
Posted by NoelBonel
The link seems to be not working deddot.
Posted by amnher
Yeah he is right
@NoelBonel
Hope you can be active also heere
Posted by amnher
Driver from the first page since the new feature of adjustable iso+shutter speed not yet available. Is it just a blur?It seems daylight shots lack sharpness
[ This Message was edited by: amnher on 2011-03-03 13:18 ]
Posted by deddot
sorry.. links updated..
DOWNLOAD HERE
on auto, flash off
EV +0.3 to +2.0 is for Non Flash shot with low light conditioan,
EV -0.3 to -2.0 is for Non Flash shot with bright light condition. its using high ISO to reduce underexposed due to fast shutter.. this funstion still have problem of noise because using high ISO..
i'm still testing this one.. and still working on it..
[ This Message was edited by: deddot on 2011-03-03 16:27 ]
Posted by amnher
Nice one
gonna be trying it. I think high ISO is useful for sports scene I think. I know you can do it... Ill try to take shots and post them up here. By the way can you add some sharpness for daylight shots. Best shutter and anouk are sharp at daylight. Look at the shots above. It seems cloudy day when it comes to color but the actual atmosphere is livelier than that... Im using auto+daylight wb.[ This Message was edited by: amnher on 2011-03-04 00:09 ]
Posted by NoelBonel
Hmmm..the link is still not working. Please check it out deddot. Yes it's a bit cloudy in daylight shots as I have observed from amnher's pics. Keep it going deddot! We have faith in you. Let's all try our best to improve your camdriver. Regards!!
