Posted by jake20
another N8 sample video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mReF-qCZ4mM
and
some screen shots of the N8 camera setting menu
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2010-09-20 16:26 ]
Posted by etaab
@ AbuBasim - theres tons of videos surfacing about the N8 now and its camera. Most of which are taken by people working in the mobile industry as journalists or reviewers. Theres also people who have the N8 for QA and debugging purposes. Its the same with every phone released, but moreso with high end devices. Do you think they're made by people who are trying to con us ? no they're made by people given N8's to capture such pictures and videos to tease us prior to launch. Its about making people want the phone.
Btw, the digital zoom is possible due to clever use of the N8's wider angle lense which gives it a huge depth of field. Such quality digital zoom is possible when the hardware is capable of it. Im still to see how well the N8's focus holds up against the Vivaz's continuous AF, but apparently its much better !
One downside IMO is the stereo sound capture, it somehow sounds as not a high quality as the old N93 from 2006, but still very good !
Cant wait to get mine !
Posted by norbi_nw
everything is sharp in the videos.. its amazing how good it is. Major upgrade from Satio and quite a jump from vivaz too (SE always has a white halo on pictures and videos... nokia has more contrast and sharpness). Not worth to buy another SE phone. never ever. I have to admit the thing i didnt wanted to admit: ... nokia is nokia, number one in quality. Maybe i can get my hands on one orange sample too... i bet this phone will be a hit in Romania, so i have to choose a nice color that noone else will have (or will be rare) i know all muppets here will get the black/silver one. And yeah about the digital zoom they said it cust off the movie, but that way it has even more processing power and can render a "better" picture. - means it will look very good even with zoom (2x).
I hope you guys who preordered will post samples and share your review with us ASAP
[ This Message was edited by: norbi_nw on 2010-09-20 23:21 ]
Posted by skblakee
Has anyone seen the below news? Delayed until October? If not then a moderator could delete.
http://www.phonearena.com/htm[....]l-October-article-a_13369.html
Posted by eltoffer
On 2010-09-21 01:39:40, skblakee wrote:
Has anyone seen the below news? Delayed until October? If not then a moderator could delete.
http://www.phonearena.com/htm[....]l-October-article-a_13369.html
yes we knew
Posted by skblakee
Sorry for the re-post then but hopefully this signals that Nokia found some bugs and is working assiduously to address them and send out something that does not fly back in their faces.
Too often we get all hyped about phones and their promised features only to have some large easily recognised fault. Nokia better get this one straight. They are wayyyy behind.
Posted by eltoffer
well im my experience being a nokia customer i have never had any software issues on first releases, thats why i love nokia, theirs first firmware release are very stable (in my own experience n95-8gb, n82, n86) so i expect the same for this phone
Posted by skblakee
Maybe I should have mentioned the the UI, Symbian 3, instead. That is my main concern really. Where does it rank along with Android, IOS4 and Blackberry's own. Will it suffer a hard drop by users who might find Symbian 3 to be more or less S60 V5 ?
We shall see.
Posted by jake20
some more sample video, and still shots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu4WHFYZuqA
Posted by jake20
i didn't know the N8 also has a magnetometer.. very cool
man, i am so very close to pre-ordering a nice lime green N8.. just can't pull the trigger yet, lol
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2010-09-21 19:04 ]
Posted by etaab
That delay rumour is a load of nonesense, even Nokia have said so themselves, see this link.
@ norbi_nw - im kinda wishing now id paid another Ģ10 to get next day delivery. If it is released on 30th September i should have mine no later than 5th October. Expect lots of Satio comparisons.
Posted by jake20
i wonder why the N8 isn't on amazon.com yet
Posted by jake20
OMG... i think this video may have just convinced me to get an N8
check it out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiFdqZ73XxU
Posted by zide
Looks very nice indeed!
Posted by rkalloo
N8 will be good but i think E7 will be better with the bigger screen!
Posted by AbuBasim
The E7 will have a more basic 8MP camera with fixed focus and LED flash which is both an upgrade and a downgrade compared to the E90 which it is supposed to replace. And the E7's display is bigger but with the same resolution as on the N8. Better for older people I guess...
Posted by etaab
Now if Nokia had put everything the N8 has into the E7, it would have been fantastic. As it stands, its a lesser phone than the N8.
@ jake20 - how did some random footage of an American football game persuade you to buy a N8 ? am i missing something ?
Posted by ares
On 2010-09-21 03:30:51, eltoffer wrote:
thats why i love nokia, theirs first firmware release are very stable
tell that to n97 early adopters
Posted by etaab
Come on ares, you should know by now that just because some markets or firmware versions get loads of bugs, it does not mean ALL have the same problems.
I knew two people who had N97's from almost the day it was released (i was very jealous), neither of them were at all unhappy with the software, only with the actual size of the phone.
It was the same with the Satio, mine worked bug free almost from day one and still does 1 year on (almost). It all depends on the firmware region and/or operator branding.
Posted by ares
You are kidding right? The n97 was so bad that even Nokiaīs CEO had to admit itīs faillure...it was a p990 style debacle. Poor firmware/UI + underpowered chip + severe lack of RAM (You mention the Satio - no lack of RAM or processing power there) = disaster. Not that i think that will happen with the n8 (at all...i think it will be great...to bad it runs symblargh)
[ This Message was edited by: ares on 2010-09-22 14:47 ]
Posted by jake20
On 2010-09-22 15:33:39, etaab wrote:
@ jake20 - how did some random footage of an American football game persuade you to buy a N8 ? am i missing something ?
the quality of the video at 720P is amazing for a cell phone.. i want to be able to have a quality video camera like this at my fingertips at all times.
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2010-09-22 14:54 ]
Posted by etaab
No im not kidding. I didnt know many N97 owners but the ones who had it upon release were all quite happy with it.
One of which i played with thoroughly was also very stable, it was a friends (white - yuck !) N97, i wanted it months before release but sadly O2 had their heads shoved too far up Apple's backsides to offer any phone that looked like or resembled the iPhone 3GS. Thankfully O2 lost their exclusive deal and Orange, Vodafraud and the other operators could then offer the iPhone meaning the Satio made it to O2 for me to get on a free upgrade.
The N97 was a fantastic phone and still is to this day. I always call it 'the best phone i never actually owned'.
Posted by AbuBasim
On 2010-09-21 03:30:51, eltoffer wrote:
well im my experience being a nokia customer i have never had any software issues on first releases, thats why i love nokia, theirs first firmware release are very stable (in my own experience n95-8gb, n82, n86) so i expect the same for this phone
That's not my experience with the E72. Nokia has released several firmware updates during the six months I've owned the phone but there are still very annoying bugs in the phone. One example: can't send mail when configuring MfE for Google Sync. This works fine on my old E90.
Posted by eltoffer
On 2010-09-22 15:34:25, ares wrote:
On 2010-09-21 03:30:51, eltoffer wrote:
thats why i love nokia, theirs first firmware release are very stable
tell that to n97 early adopters
i clearly said my OWN experience with N82 N86 and n95-8gb but i trust on nokia, SE sucks
Posted by Vit
On 2010-09-17 15:56:28, jake20 wrote:
i am really disappointed in these low light shots from N8.. i hoped for much better
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2010-09-17 15:03 ]
Hi, Jake!
Disappointed? Be more specific about your disappointment. What more would you expect from pictures like these? Those are very harsh conditions. The only thing missing here is perhaps a little bit more of exposure. Take the first shot, for instance. It has an exposure time of 1/17 seconds.
What would you say about this one? This is an ISO 400 picture. Pretty impressive stuff, donīt you think?
Besides the still picture performance prowess, what catches my eye is the pixel binning that makes up for the absence of a proper optical zoom during video recording. This kind of digital zoom really seems to be just as good as an optical zoom.
[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2010-09-22 16:14 ]
Posted by jake20
Hi Vit!
its good to see you again my friend.
wow, that last picture looks amazing. was that taken on N8?
I think my expectations were a little too high maybe. I used to see N86 low light comparison shots, and they always appeared to produce more light in low light conditions.. and Nokia themselves used to say that N86 did not need xeenon flash because the sensor was so big it let in plenty of light.
So, when N8 came along boasting the biggest sensor ever, i just expected amazing low light shots in almost any conditions.. it seems i should have not expected so much.
as you know, C905 takes great stills, but bad video.. I love the video of the N8, but just trying to decide if the still shot camera is that much better than my C905, and with these modded drivers, there is so much customization options.
I just don't want to spend $500 on the N8, and then still feel like I miss my C905 camera at all.
Posted by Vit
On 2010-09-22 18:23:10, jake20 wrote:
Hi Vit!
its good to see you again my friend.
wow, that last picture looks amazing. was that taken on N8?
I think my expectations were a little too high maybe. I used to see N86 low light comparison shots, and they always appeared to produce more light in low light conditions.. and Nokia themselves used to say that N86 did not need xeenon flash because the sensor was so big it let in plenty of light.
So, when N8 came along boasting the biggest sensor ever, i just expected amazing low light shots in almost any conditions.. it seems i should have not expected so much.
as you know, C905 takes great stills, but bad video.. I love the video of the N8, but just trying to decide if the still shot camera is that much better than my C905, and with these modded drivers, there is so much customization options.
I just don't want to spend $500 on the N8, and then still feel like I miss my C905 camera at all.
Thanks! Good to be back... Iīve run apart from SE, so that was why Iīve left this forum.
Yes, that picture came from a N8. Take a look at the link where Iīve taken it from. There youīll find more good ones @ night.
I guess that Nokiaīs guys will always exempt themselves from their mistake of not putting a proper flash inside the N86. It was a clear fail, although it had all the credentials to be a great camphone.
I understand your expectations regarding low light, but itīs too soon to tell itīs not good. Rather than that, I particularly think it will be awesome in low light, due to this high ISO capabilities shown in recent samples.
Take the Satio, for instance. It only enables slower shutter speeds (of up to 1s) in its Twilight Mode. As for those N8īs pics youīve provided, I presume it has been used an Auto Mode with Manual ISO @ the lowest setting. I guess that a low shutter speed mode is also available.
Itīs good to see that Nokia has clearly opted for a mild noise reduction algorithm @ higher ISO settings. That helps to mantain much of the dynamic range and colour saturation when faced against low ISO pictures. Thatīs a very good approach.
I also understand your concern about missing your C905. Even though I cannot assure you will not miss it, we know that this N8 has shown a great potential. It also has a bunch of manual settings: ISO (although rather limited - only 3 options), contrast, saturation, sharpness,etc...
Besides that, youīre getting a pretty decent smartphone with all the goodies (and the few baddies) that Symbian has.
Just bear in mind that it may not be as good as an iPhone 4 in the smartphone department, but thatīs a compromise I can live with...
I only regret two of its desing flaws. THE ABSENCE OF A FLAT SIDE SURFACE and THE ABSENCE OF LENS COVER.
The first will render it rather unusable for longer exposure times (provided you do not have a tripod), as one will mostly not be able to leave it standing still over a flat surface.
EDIT: Although it doesnīt have flat side surfaces, it DOES have flat up and down surfaces. They may be helpful, but not that much.
The second flaw is mainly not due to potential scratches. Rather, the main problem here will be its lens getting dirty with time. We donīt have a cleaning cloth at our reach all the time, and that dirty can really spoil a great shot.
Greetings!
[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2010-09-22 18:44 ]
Posted by jake20
wow, now those pics in that link look amazing.
its crazy, even at full size, you still see detail and minimal distortion.
the 16:9 8MP shots are very nice
and it looks like those night shots were taken on Auto scene and just point and shoot as well, no tripod or anything.. which is also very impressive.
For my C905 i would have to slow the shutter down all the way, and use a tripod to get a shot like that at night.
I think i am finally sold on the camera.. the only negative thing i keep hearing is how bad Symbian^3 is..
EDIT: oh, i would i liked it to have a video light as well.. my video light on my C905 has come in handy for various tasks in the past, but i think i can live without it.
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2010-09-22 18:50 ]
Posted by etaab
On 2010-09-22 19:39:29, jake20 wrote:
the only negative thing i keep hearing is how bad Symbian^3 is..
Where did you hear that ? from people with hands on experience of Symbian 3, ive heard nothing but good compliments.
Posted by Vit
On 2010-09-22 19:39:29, jake20 wrote:
wow, now those pics in that link look amazing.
its crazy, even at full size, you still see detail and minimal distortion.
the 16:9 8MP shots are very nice
and it looks like those night shots were taken on Auto scene and just point and shoot as well, no tripod or anything.. which is also very impressive.
For my C905 i would have to slow the shutter down all the way, and use a tripod to get a shot like that at night.
I think i am finally sold on the camera.. the only negative thing i keep hearing is how bad Symbian^3 is..
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2010-09-22 18:44 ]
Well, I can only speak for myself, but I reckon that this new S^3 should be a good incarnation of Symbian. Besides owning a Satio, Iīve also had a Nokia 5800. I can assure you that the 5800 with its most recent firmware (version 50.something) feels very zippy for the general day to day usage.
If one can stand trading off a spectacular camera module for a supposedly modern smartphone platform like Android or iOS, than the N8 might not be the best bet.
Not my case, though. I am saving for it right now. I hope it doesnīt let me down.
Hereīs a good hands on video of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD_Y2UX_jBg
And hereīs a comprehensive review of the new S^3 platform:
http://mobile-review.com/review/symbian-3-en.shtml
[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2010-09-22 19:03 ]
Posted by etaab
Thats not a very good review, that guy doesnt utter a word !!
Posted by jake20
is there a live weather widget for Symbian^3? similar to what HTC has. like this?
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2010-09-22 19:37 ]
Posted by Vit
On 2010-09-22 20:15:02, etaab wrote:
Thats not a very good review, that guy doesnt utter a word !!
Yes, youīre right. But itīs not supposed to be a review. Itīs merely a hands on video.
I guess itīs up to the audience to tell whether itīs good or not, and the overall performance seems very good, IMHO.
Posted by Vit
On 2010-09-22 20:36:45, jake20 wrote:
is there a live weather widget for Symbian^3? similar to what HTC has. like this?
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2010-09-22 19:37 ]
Yes, I think so.
Posted by etaab
Usually yes, usually provided by Worldmate, which is a free app and has weather in it. Worldmate have supported Symbian since around 2002.
I wouldnt be surprised if one of the widgets can be customised with weather either straight out of the box. Personally its not a thing i'd use, the weather forecast is always wrong where i live !
EDIT: just checked Ovi store and its already there waiting for the N8 ! now all we need is the phone !
[ This Message was edited by: etaab on 2010-09-22 20:35 ]
Posted by jake20
On 2010-09-22 21:33:12, etaab wrote:
Usually yes, usually provided by Worldmate, which is a free app and has weather in it. Worldmate have supported Symbian since around 2002.
I wouldnt be surprised if one of the widgets can be customised with weather either straight out of the box. Personally its not a thing i'd use, the weather forecast is always wrong where i live !
EDIT: just checked Ovi store and its already there waiting for the N8 ! now all we need is the phone !
[ This Message was edited by: etaab on 2010-09-22 20:35 ]
i know, my forecasts are usually never 100% accurate either, but its something I have always loved having.. the weather forecast as simply as a glance away..
think i am going to pre-order a green one
always something great about having a color nobody else has
i hope they come out with a video light add on.. only thing the camera is missing.
Posted by jake20
another sample video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxhf8lGIUhs
EDIT:I Couldn't resist any longer.. I pre-ordered an N8
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2010-09-22 22:37 ]
Posted by jake20
On 2010-09-22 19:58:53, Vit wrote:
And hereīs a comprehensive review of the new S^3 platform:
http://mobile-review.com/review/symbian-3-en.shtml
Maybe its because i am coming from an old java feature phone like C905, and I have never used an Android phone.. but Symbian^3 looks great to me..
What is so bad about it? All i hear is that its so old and outdated.. all previews i read say that Hardware is great but its being held back by old and outdated Symbian^3 OS.
What is actually missing or so old from Symbian^3 compared to IOs4 or Android?
Can someone please explain?
thanks
EDIT: I see the conclusion of that article answers some of my questions..
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http://mobile-review.com/review/symbian-3-en.shtml
Conclusion
A lot of effort has been put in the S^3 to optimize the code and its work speed. Compared to the fifth edition of the S60 platform, everything appears several times faster, which is a great advantage. In addition, the increased RAM size allows one to run a dozen of applications and keep them active in the memory after that, which is another advantage.
As for the disadvantages, the S^3 is none other than an evolutionary development of S60 5th edition with a few minor features added (e.g. an updated player, single tap, pinch-to-zoom, HDMI output, several widget desktops). The situation is analogous to the Android updates from version 2.0 to 2.2 through 2.1, which happened within half a year or slightly more than that. What was added is a new gallery with support for geo-tags (version 2.1) plus minor updates to other functions, as well as extra speed in version 2.2. It took Symbian about two years to do exactly the same.
Unfortunately, the browser didn't undergo any significant changes and yet remains Symbian's weak spot, as well as the icon appearance, interface and its animation. The widgets and the way the desktops are organized are both beneath criticism, too. The developers must have concentrated on the unsuccessful Nokia N97 experience overlooking more fruitful solutions. Does the interface bring anything new to the market? No it doesn't. Are there any comparative advantages? There are none. For example, by adopting the idea of a video editor from the Samsung i8910, Nokia did add extra functionality to the S^3. Yet that is a single example of such successful adoption, there's hardly any other to mention. Improving the music player to the level of 2007's Apple iPhone can't be considered an advantage; it's an attempt to catch up with the competitor but not to claim the leadership.
I can come up with many other such attempts. Yet the final conclusion will remain the same. The S^3 appears an intermediate version of the platform unfortunately, one that has been delayed several times. What is presented in the end, has been available in other OS' for a long time, Symbian is just trying to catch up with the competition (e.g. the newly released social services in the phonebook could be seen in the N97 prototypes two years ago). For the Nokia fans who are satisfied with S60 5th edition it is a great improvement (it's faster, more stable, adds some new features), but for the whole market the platform comes out outdated, both in terms of its interface and many inbuilt software capabilities. It is functionally inferior to iOS 4 (e.g. in terms of games, social services, interface, e-mail functionality, amount of third-party software), Android (e.g. in terms of interface, extra phonebook and calendar features), Bada (e.g. in terms of interface, Social Hub functionality, etc.). Unfortunately, the number of updates in this version of Symbian is not enough to qualify for its own name; Nokia used to call such updates Feature Packs. Now the company is trying to make a splash since it is lacking resources and that is all it's got. All the effort has been put into S^4. However, taking into account the fact that the latter is based on S^3 to some extent, the company won't be able to build a new platform from scratch. Nokia is also dissipating its energy on MeeGo, which doesn't leave much chance for improving the services and platforms. All those observations put together provide the necessary justification for the meager Symbian update that we have.
The S^3 platform is a real gift to the competition from Nokia itself. Products based on S^3 will be widely advertized and have huge sales, which should have an impact on the product generations to come after them. Let me explain that. Having bought a phone with the outdated interface, the customers will soon get acquainted with the alternative interfaces and OS functionalities. And Symbian will only lose from such comparison, even in the low-end. There's no need even to mention the new Android version due at the end of the year. The new Symbian is inferior to the already existing solutions.
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2010-09-22 23:00 ]
Posted by jake20
Interveiw with Damian Dinning, shot on an N8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhMND-1MOr0&feature=youtu.be&a
Posted by Vit
@ Jake:
I will give you my impressions regarding Nokiaīs Symbian.
I really do not miss thousands of apps. I use perhaps only a dozen of them, and Nokia is known for providing good apps from its in-house development team.
Take the multilingual dictionary, for instance. You can download any language you want, and have up to three of them stored in your phone at the same time. The great thing is that it uses the built in text-to-speech engine (funny that I thought this engine would be present in the Satio as well - I was wrong, itīs Nokia exclusive) to synthesize the actual pronounciation of the word. And the engine adjust itself to the various languages available, so you can always have an accurate result, no matter which language you use. Talking about that, the same engine is responsible for the very good option of hearing the name of the people calling you, without the need of recording your own voice. It also recognizes your voice commands for the activation of some of the phoneīs functions, as well as for making calls.
Then youīve got the Ovi Maps - free worldwide voice guided nav, free worldwide maps updates... Free everything related to GPS. And you know it will always be free of charge. No need to crack apps or to hack your phone.
Another great in-house app that uses the GPS module is the Sports Tracker, that can help your fitness. It lets you even sync your trainning data with your PC and with a web based account. Very handy app.
As you can see in that review, S^3 has also a revamped version of the good Symbian Calendar, which now offers multiple ones. You can easily sync it with your PC Calendar.
The Comes With Music service is awesome too and offers an extensive collection of all musical genres. Pretty good solution to overcome piracy.
With the S^3, weīve got pretty decent both picture AND VIDEO editors.
You also got Adobe PDF Reader, Quick Office Suite, and some good old games.
It even has an internal app that can allow you to block your phone remotely.
The Ovi Store may be small when compared to Appleīs or Androidīs, but it satisfies my needs.
S^3 may look like an old OS, but now it seems to be quite well optimized for touch usage, with multitouch and gesture commands available everywhere.
Itīs still a pretty good smartphone platform, IMHO.
Posted by etaab
First off, take a look at this video, its months old. Skip forwards to around 4 minutes into the video. Then, take a look at the green themed background for the next minute or so. Now is it just me, or does it resemble the Playstation 3 animated wave standard background. That appears to be new in Symbian 3 also.
See Youtube link here.
Secondly, do you remember this from a couple of weeks ago:
On 2010-09-09 20:30:39, etaab wrote:
So in short i suggest like me you buy a N8 now and in a years time see what Apple or Android can offer, but still keep the N8.
Heh, im quoting myself !
Seriously though, people seem to think that Symbian 3 is coming to save the world, take over from Apple or Android and see off every other OS out there.
Newsflash !! - its not !
Symbian 3 is the latest version of a deep rooted OS which has been around for years and seen off other competitors. Remember, Symbian is STILL the current market leader as it holds the largest amount of users than any other platform around the world. Global.
Apple and Android have only surfaced in the last 2-3 years. Because they're brand new operating systems they have integrated functions and features which are more up to date than Symbian since they were implemented in there from day one. Symbian has simply evolved over the years.
Ill say it again, Symbian is not outdated at all, its not been created to keep up with Apple or Android, that will be the job of MeeGo next year. Symbian 3 is for 2010 flagships, Symbian 4 will be for mid range 2011 phones, then MeeGo will take over in 2011 to take on the might of Android and Apple. Next year could be the most exciting time to be a smartphone buyer because 2011 is when the battle really will commence.
Nokia will have MeeGo, Symbian 4, Symbian 3, Series 40, a brand name which is the also funnily enough the global market leader - nobody makes more phones than Nokia do and so they have the biggest chunk of the market share.
What does Google have ? Android.. and Android.. and not much else. Yes, just Android. They do not even make their own phones and so are limited to just how many devices their OS can reach.
What does Apple have ? iOS, which is limited to their products only. Apple, luckily can count of the millions of mindless minions who buy phones for style or fashion over deep advanced functionality.
Neither Android or Apple have got the market covered from all angles. Nokia have, they have an OS for every phone from the budget phones you'd buy for Ģ10 in Asda, to top spec high end devices.
Regarding the N8 enjoy it, love it, love its camera. Love its features.
Posted by etaab
By the way, ive just been shopping this afternoon and when leaving the supermarket i noticed an advert on the bus stop.
It was for the N8 ! it said coming October. Which is about right, if they said September people would be looking for it now when really its meant to be out 30th. I dont know what else it said since i was driving past at 30mph so didnt get much of a good look, it just showed the N8 in black (or is that charcoal ?) and the aforementioned date.
[ This Message was edited by: etaab on 2010-09-23 18:24 ]
Posted by jake20
i cant wait.. but there is no adverts here in the US for N8 sadly
my pre-order still shows a 10-2 arrival, so hopefully i will get it by 10-8 or so..
Do you have a list of the best symbian apps?
My friend had shown be a cool bar code reader app for Iphone, which you can scan any product in the store, and then it pops up a list of places to buy it at the best price.
is there anything like this for symbian?
or any other cool, useful symbian apps?
I am definitely buying that panorama app.. that looked amazing!
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2010-09-23 19:26 ]
Posted by jake20
AUTO HDR photos coming to N8
http://www.nokia.com/makemyapp
Posted by minubhatia45
I am going to purchase Nokia N8. will back soon with feedback of N8.
Posted by etaab
Bad news ! i received this email today !
" Thank you for your interest to be among the first to have the Nokia N8 in your hands in the UK.
You have made a great choice for the ultimate entertainment smartphone and world's best cameraphone.
We received your pre-order on xxxxxxxxxxx, and originally scheduled the delivery of your Nokia N8 by the end of September. For your maximum enjoyment of the Nokia N8, we had to move the delivery by a few weeks.
You will receive your brand new Nokia N8 during October. And you will be among the first to fully enjoy the benefits of a smartphone that is packed with HD entertainment and supreme camera capabilities.
If you have any questions about your order, you can contact us directly at 0800 331 6021.
Kind regards,
Nokia Online Shop Customer service http://www.nokia.co.uk/shop "
OH WELL !
Still any time in October is fine by me as long as it does not move back to November.
[ This Message was edited by: etaab on 2010-09-24 17:47 ]
Posted by jake20
isn't this what was reported last week?
Nokia kind of blurred the actual release date, to cover up for another delay.
They still say it will be released end of September, but users may not receive it at their door until October.
This kind of buys them a couple of more weeks, without actually providing any new release dates.
My order still shows 10-2, but I ordered from a USA reseller.
EDIT: USA site now says end of October.. used to say end of September..
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2010-09-24 23:57 ]
Posted by AbuBasim
On 2010-09-18 18:28:15, etaab wrote:
You know what however ? ive posted pictures on this forum and many others since 2005 when i got my K750i and every phone since then including my Satio and have always had good feedback from fellow forum dwellers but not once have i ever on anything ever manually adjusted the ISO setting on any phone. I always let the phone / camera choose.
So if the N8 lacks an option to manually choose which ISO setting to use, i wont be bothered diddly squat !
Here's a quick example of the quality difference you can get with full auto vs manual shooting:
Two crops side-by-side from two N900 shots. Left side shot with the standard N900 camera app and the right with Nokia's beta FCamera app with ISO manually set to 100. The original shots are in the photo gallery:
http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/viewphotos.php?pid=30359
http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/viewphotos.php?pid=30360
[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2010-09-25 20:02 ]
Posted by jake20
the manual ISO shot does not necessarily look better to me.. just darker with less noise & detail
anyway.. you can manually set the ISO on N8.. ISO 100,400, or 800
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2010-09-25 20:13 ]
Posted by etaab
Like i said, im not too worried. If Nokia want to hold onto the phone for another 3-4 weeks im happy to let them. Its possible they found a pretty alarming bug in the OS which needs patching prior to release. I dont mind as i know Nokia phones are pretty stable when released here in the UK, despite what other people will say when they mention the N97 issues.