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Posted by jake20
Are any of you guys going to buy the Nokia N8?


Posted by etaab
I am. Over the past few years ive preferred Nokia phones to SE and the Satio has always fallen short of a Nokia equivelant. When Nokia announced Ovi maps would be free for life i considered selling my Satio for a N97 which i always wanted instead of a Satio.

I want a high spec camera, since no Android phone has such a thing just yet and Apple cannot even implement Bluetooth correctly for me its an easy decision.



Posted by Acelew
i thk Satio is betta..

Posted by jake20
I really want a high spec camera as well, as well as good GPS for navigation.
Do you know how good the OVI maps is for voice turn navigation?

Is it better than google navigation for the Android devices?

Posted by norbi_nw
Acelew - you are an idiot, posting just to have numbers. No offense but you are! N8 beats the crap out of the satio. Yet i wont buy N8 because of the minor update of symbian. Etaab sorry for that war on the pics topic, but you cant convince me. Maybe you are satisfied but im not. Still requires some tweaking. Anyway we ended this.
[ This Message was edited by: norbi_nw on 2010-09-08 00:18 ]


Posted by mikekop

On 2010-09-07 18:24:30, norbi_nw wrote:
Acelew - you are an idiot, posting just to have numbers. No offense but you are! N8 beats the crap out of the N8. Yet i wont buy N8 because of the minor update of symbian. Etaab sorry for that war on the pics topic, but you cant convince me. Maybe you are satisfied but im not. Still requires some tweaking. Anyway we ended this.



OK, wait here a minute. Why are you calling someone an idiot? Quit that shit right now.

Posted by etaab

On 2010-09-07 17:59:09, jake20 wrote:
I really want a high spec camera as well, as well as good GPS for navigation.
Do you know how good the OVI maps is for voice turn navigation?

Is it better than google navigation for the Android devices?


Im not sure if its better, but its very good. In fact id say its better than my dedicated sat nav. Which is a Binatone, so thats not a hard thing to beat.

The best thing about Ovi maps is that you can download the maps for free and store them on the phone, whereas Google maps you have to stream them constantly, using up any free data bandwith or even running up a big phone data bill.

Posted by prilo
This topic dont have any sense. Coz Satio is already on the market but N8 still in the "theory" and phase of beta-tested. We can say only which phone is better on the paper

Posted by norbi_nw

On 2010-09-07 23:50:01, mikekop wrote:

On 2010-09-07 18:24:30, norbi_nw wrote:
Acelew - you are an idiot, posting just to have numbers. No offense but you are! N8 beats the crap out of the N8. Yet i wont buy N8 because of the minor update of symbian. Etaab sorry for that war on the pics topic, but you cant convince me. Maybe you are satisfied but im not. Still requires some tweaking. Anyway we ended this.



OK, wait here a minute. Why are you calling someone an idiot? Quit that shit right now.


Because he also replied on other threads and the answers where total fail, and only posted to have post number... Nothing tied to the subject. I bet he doesnt even know what N8 is or specs... Sorry but he got me angry. Nothing to undeline his answer just threw a post in there.

So far i have seen incredible sample shots with N8, its faster, its got a better camera, HDMI, 3.5 jack, And scratch proof glass (multi-coated), and ofc HD video recording.. + many goodies (pinch zoom, cool video editor, etc.). It's a win for the N8 and SE isnt throwing out anything new on the market. Only that PSP phone next year. But go with Nokia, TONS of support and nokia has 100000000 hacker fans and they create all kind of tweaks, mods, etc. for Nokias. Noone gives a rats ass about SE symbian. Thats why SE is dropping it. so N8 all the way. + that i REALLY want a metal phone (SE wasnt able to deliver such quality since the T610). you CANT go wrong with the N8.
[ This Message was edited by: norbi_nw on 2010-09-08 00:24 ]


Posted by schnuff
yesss, norbi_nw, that's exactly the point:
beside the specifications it's the large and busi symbian communitiy that is a really great point for the nokia n8.
lots of modders are waiting for the n8 and i'm sure within a short time there will be tons of mods, cfw etc. for the n8...
i own a satio for a year, it's hacked since the very first day (i got my cert two days bevore i got my satio... ) and of course vivaz homescreen and this things are running on my satio. compared to my 2 years old nokia 5800 the satio is nothing but boring!
on my 5800 there's the new firmware of the nokia c6 running as a customfirmware with tons of mods and goodies, and every month there's something new to discover.
i've preordered the n8 long time ago, my satio will be sold now (or i'll change it to a x10 mini!?).

Posted by jake20

On 2010-09-08 01:06:10, prilo wrote:
This topic dont have any sense. Coz Satio is already on the market but N8 still in the "theory" and phase of beta-tested. We can say only which phone is better on the paper


N8 is not in "Theory" phase at all.. there are already hands on reviews for the phone, and it will be released in another week or so.
Man, i want this phone bad. Honestly, I would be primarily buying it for its camera specs, and free GPS/offline maps.

The only issue I have is with the price..

Posted by Tsepz_GP
I would avoid Symbian altogether,but if you want a good camera and decent community support then get the N8. It seems SE have abandoned the Satio despite its excellent hardware. I was going to wait for the N8, but Symbian is sooo stale at the moment, and the camera isn't a big deal to me so i got the X10 and glad i made the jump, if you want a good SE smartphone get an Android SE.

Posted by jake20
i never owned a symbian phone.. but what is so bad about it?
is it the lack of software? or features? or lack of customization or modding?

Is the Symbian 3 OS also that bad? Isnt this supposed to be a new phone OS?
i am confused here..

Posted by Tsepz_GP
Im not too clued up on the more technical side of Symbian^3 but to me it seems to be a slighlty more tweaked version of S60v5 with Qt built-in which means it will be easier to develop apps for it, also there's no more Symbian Signed to go through if i remember correctly, so apps should arrive faster.
After having being a user and big fan of Symbian S60 for the past 4years or so and then getting an Android 2months ago what i noticed is that the S60 UI and its apps lack consistency especialy in S60v5 where in some apps you will have kinetic scrolling then in others a scroll bar ,it breaks your flow and can get frustrating at times, there's no proper structure in their set up so you find alot of apps have their own UI unlike for example in Android where if want settings Menu for any app you're in you simply click the Menu key,if you want to go Back you hit the back key, and its like that in EVERY app.
The quality of apps in Symbian is a bit shocking especially when you are paying so much for your symbian, e.g Ovi Store, this is supposed to be where you get the apps yet its slow, and feels like bloatware, apps like Gravity and Tweets60 feel like Beta software etc...
Its a good OS but the UI is in need of a major change, nothing flashy just something better structured.
After using Android i simply cant stand S60 at all, and it seems like Symbian ^3 isnt that different.

Posted by jake20
@Tsepz_GP
thanks for the explanation!

well, i have been a little frustrated with my C905 because of the lack of good applications.
It seems like the old java feature phones are getting left in the dust..

I cant even find a good internet radio app for my C905.. so I may find Symbian to be great, lol

Posted by Tsepz_GP
Ye, Java phones seem to be a dying breed especially in the mid to high. these days. Hopefully Nokia will include a built-in Internet Radio app in the N8 as they did in the N85 and N96, but there should be some 3rd party ones, i think TuneWiki has a IR function.

Posted by jake20
check out this N8 video.. phone and Symbian^3 looks pretty good to me..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCOAjri62Bg

Posted by se_dude
Seems like you would do good to wait till the nd of the year with the impending launch of the SE android X10 successor.

Posted by etaab
I dont think any SE phone is worth buying these days, be it a Symbian, Android or other OS, if you're someone like me who uses the more advanced functions of the handset.

SE just cannot seem to get anything right anymore. Their phones still have that magic sparkle they had years ago, but they always seem to be outdated very quickly. Froyo, Android 2.2 is hitting most handsets within the next month or two. whilst SE is still using 1.6. By the time SE get around to releasing a 2.2 handset, version 2.3 or even 3.0 will probably be upon us. SE are always far too behind.

@ jake20 - this is what im going to do and i suggest you consider doing the same. Buy yourself a nice new N8, it'll have a few bugs being a new version of Symbian but it will be worth it. Nokia always have tons of apps, not so many free apps as Android or Apple, but many many times more than SE's S60 attempt with the Satio and Vivaz.

Im buying a N8, in fact im about to preorder it today. Then, in a years time when my current contract is up (im buying my N8 outright sim free and selling my Satio), i'll then keep my N8 as it'll still be a great phone with a fantastic camera that will warrant never selling it, but i will then invest in a high spec Apple or Android phone.

So in short i suggest like me you buy a N8 now and in a years time see what Apple or Android can offer, but still keep the N8.

Posted by jake20
hi etaab,
thanks for the advice.. i am really dying for this phone now. I seriously doubt that any Sony Ericsson will be able to match the camera specs and offline GPS features of the N8.. that is primarily why i want it so bad.

i am also very tempted to pre-order it right now, but i see that only the black is available. I actually love how the orange looks.
my friend at work was showing off the other day how many great free apps he has for his iphone.. i was jealous

a couple more questions..
1. Will i be able to take my sim out of my C905, and just use it in the N8 on AT&T network without issue?
2. Do you think that pre-order price of $549 US dollars will go up once released?

thanks!


Posted by sotam
I will wait because first release major part of time have issues...

If this is right you don't will have problems
N8
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 2100 / 1900

Source:gsmarena
[ This Message was edited by: sotam on 2010-09-10 04:32 ]


Posted by Marly

On 2010-09-10 05:32:36, sotam wrote:
I will wait because first release major part of time have issues...
[ This Message was edited by: sotam on 2010-09-10 04:32 ]



True... I'd never buy a Nokia smartphone immediately after it's been released, they usually have several software-problems, I've bought my N97 after the fourth software-update, when it was five months on the market : it was more stable then and 100 euro cheaper

Posted by Tsepz_GP
What more advanced functions of a phone do you use etaab?

Posted by etaab
Primarily fiddling around with the file system or being able to alter things on the phone which you cannot on an Apple phone or Android handset. Or at least, not as in such an advanced way.

@ sotam - it depends on the user. Personally, i dont mind using a new OS with tons of bugs if it means im using something new, unique and im able to watch it grow into something powerful. To me, a buggy phone is almost more attractive than a stable phone. It represents a challenge.

@ jake20 - i preordered my N8 just after posting here yesterday. Luckily, in the UK you're able to choose from any colour when preordering. I decided to go for the orange colour since i dont see many orange phones around and it'll catch peoples eye when they see me using it. Again like i said above, i like to stand out of the crowd somewhat with new phones. I hate it when you buy a new phone and within a week of release you see hundreds of people with the same phone. Only the orange colour was listed as limited edition on the Nokia UK webshop.

It was the same story back in 2006, i waited months for SE to release a proper successor to the K750i and along came the K800i. Which i never liked from day one. So instead i waited patiently until September 2006 and out came the brilliant Nokia N93. By modern day standards, it was a brick, but the first mainstream handset which recorded VGA video with stereo sound - like the N8 does, but now in 720p. I remember the day i walked into the O2 shop where i live, asked the guys behind the counter how to setup my 3G internet on my new N93 phone and they asked what phone. When i took it out they all suddenly came running over when the guy serving me shouted 'hey this guys got a N93 !!' - priceless ! its like nobody in the UK had seen such a unique phone before. I never saw anyone with the same phone either.

Regarding your questions, i dont see why it wouldnt work straight away. I dont know much about US networks like AT&T but here in the UK its pretty straight forward. As for the price, you'll pay slightly more from the official Nokia store than if you bought the phone sim free from a retail store, but i usually find its worth it if you're getting the phone a week or two before everyone else.
[ This Message was edited by: etaab on 2010-09-10 17:44 ]


Posted by norbi_nw
man etaab im so waiting for your review (hope you make one), and ofc some sample shots.. When will you get it?

Posted by jake20
i noticed the UK release is 1 month later (oct) than the US release (sept).. maybe the colored phones will not be production ready by end of Sept.. that stinks for us here in USA

If they had Orange or Blue, i would pre-order one right now.. but I do not want to get a boring dark grey phone.



Posted by Tsepz_GP
Etaab
Do you mean like being able to overclock and underclock CPU, mess around the file system of apps etc...? Believe it or not X-Plore by LCG is available on Android and allows that ,as well as lots of CPU management apps. Have you actualy used an Android extensively? Dont under estimate it thats all im going to say,theres TONS that can be done on this OS.

Posted by jake20

On 2010-09-10 22:56:24, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Etaab
Do you mean like being able to overclock and underclock CPU, mess around the file system of apps etc...? Believe it or not X-Plore by LCG is available on Android and allows that ,as well as lots of CPU management apps. Have you actualy used an Android extensively? Dont under estimate it thats all im going to say,theres TONS that can be done on this OS.



but do any Android phones have the largest camera sensor with wide angle 12MP Carl Zeiss optics & XENON flash?
and offline GPS which does not require a signal to operate or download maps?

these are 2 pretty big reasons to get an N8

Posted by Tsepz_GP
Jake
My point was about "advanced functions"
GPS wise if you want to wait a whole century for your phone to even lock then go ahead and use Offline, with my 5800 and latest Ovi Maps i have to set A-GPS/Using network to be on, dont be fooled by the whole on phone maps, havent realy found G-Maps an issue,its ALWAYS up to date and far more accurate.
Well there is the Moto XT720 with 8MP Xenon flash as well as HDMI, but no,not the largest sensor in a mobile.

Posted by jake20
here is some interesting info regarding the camera on the N8.. seems they made a lot of changes.. honestly after reading this , i am not so sure how good the picture quality will be. it sounds like this camera may not be as good in low light as the previous N86, and also there is no Video light on it as well.
I think i may wait for some reviews to come out first now..

http://conversations.nokia.co[....]graphy-all-the-faqs/#lenscover
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2010-09-10 23:50 ]


Posted by Shino03
Symbian will be a cheap OS in the upcoming years or worse, it may no longer exists. I've learned from uiq. I will never buy a phone with a dying OS or an OS destined to be cheap and inferior. Anyway, that will take years and that's just me..

Posted by jake20

On 2010-09-11 02:49:20, Shino03 wrote:
Symbian will be a cheap OS in the upcoming years or worse, it may no longer exists. I've learned from uiq. I will never buy a phone with a dying OS or an OS destined to be cheap and inferior. Anyway, that will take years and that's just me..


yea, but honestly.. how long will you be keeping a phone for? 1 or 2 or maybe even 3 years at the very most?
in 3 years, the Iphone 4 will be just as old and outdated as the Symbian^3 N8..
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2010-09-12 01:30 ]


Posted by skblakee
I just decided that I too would be getting the N8 (I call it nate for short) but not before December or so. One thing I noticed from the reviews is that the battery cannot be removed. That either means that Nokia is pretty confident with Symbian 3 or it will be a major headache for them/users if freezing occurs.

Anyone else find that interesting?


By the way, the Satio is a joke other than having a great still shot camera.
[ This Message was edited by: skblakee on 2010-09-12 01:40 ]


Posted by jackau

On 2010-09-12 02:39:34, skblakee wrote:
I just decided that I too would be getting the N8 (I call it nate for short) but not before December or so. One thing I noticed from the reviews is that the battery cannot be removed. That either means that Nokia is pretty confident with Symbian 3 or it will be a major headache for them/users if freezing occurs.

Anyone else find that interesting?


By the way, the Satio is a joke other than having a great still shot camera.
[ This Message was edited by: skblakee on 2010-09-12 01:40 ]



Took too long for N8-00 to come out..
I wish i can ditch my Satio sooner... but thanks to an ipad, I no longer use the net on the Satio as much, hence, save the power and it can last a day and a half.

Posted by etaab
@ norbi_nw - yeah ive decided also to keep my Satio and do a photo image quality comparison with both phones. As for the OS, lets face it the N8 will win hands down.

@ Tsepz_GP - regarding what jake20 said about Ovi maps and being able to use them offline, i think its great. He hit the nail on the head imo - full feature phones (just like an Android) but which can also take incredible pictures, unlike most Android phones. For those of us who do not have a data plan with our phone contracts it saves us money since we do not have to download maps on the move. Nobody is saying Ovi maps is the best mobile phone sat nav alternative out there, but its certainly very reliable. As for how quickly it locks onto the GPS signal, ive never had a problem and always have A-GPS turned off and use only the GPS receiver. I have a trick on how to acquire a good GPS lock pretty quickly.

As for advanced functions, no not like overclocking. Im not really into the hacking or overclocking thing on mobiles. It just annoys me when on a phone such as a simple phone like my W880i you cannot do something because you do not have access to the file system or cannot alter a system file. For example when i first got my Satio, i downloaded a tv episode from BBC iPlayer. When i tried to play the file it was corrupted (usually iPlayer downloads are !!), the file itself was around 800mb and wasting valuable space on my phone, slowing the media browser down and basically a big ugly broken file icon sat there among my videos. Attempts to delete it were not possible through the media browser (as the file was considered in use), attempts on my pc were again not possible. So, using a task manager i killed all running processes related to the file, media browser etc, then went into the filing system using the inbuilt S60 file manager and deleted it from there. All done on the phone.

A pretty basic example i know, but this illustrates how you can really dig deep into the phones OS to fix a problem or improve it - such as unlocking it from a specific network.

As for Android or any other smartphone OS, i know all this is possible, but not always straight away. When ive used a friends Android phone in the past, simple things which i find in the Symbian menu system isnt there (yet) on Android, you need an app to give you such functions or features. I love Symbian, its been around for years now and deserves its place in the market for many years to come imo. But, when the day comes where i use an Android phone or Apple phone has everything i want or need, ill have no problems in jumping ship.

@ jake20 - AFAIK the release date in the UK is 30th September, so in theory if the phone comes out then, ill receive mine around the 5th October since ive gone for free delivery (up to 5 working days).

@ Shino03 - we already know that, Nokia themselves have said they will use Symbian on their more budget handsets in the future and keep their own MeeGo for their high end phones.

@ skblakee - thats a good point, maybe we would have to wait until the battery runs flat ? or maybe the N8's power button will work no matter whether the OS has a hiccup or not ?

Posted by jake20
I love my C905, and dying to see whether this takes much better pictures or not.
The video recording is certainly much better, I know this.

But C905 also has 3LED video light on it.. and Nokia N8 has no video light.
Its a very tough decision!

I did find it for $100 cheaper than the Nokia site though..

check here
http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop/shop.cgi?action=thispage&thispage=01100250U023_BDL6736P.shtml&order_id=421140926

Posted by etaab
Heh, i wouldnt worry about whether it will take better pictures, of course it will. If you read through that entire link you posted earlier yeah there is one or two things Nokia have chosen to do against the norm, but also things which will make the N8's camera much better than any other.

I always thought SE had the best cameras in their phones (since they have the expertise of Sony Cybershot helping them out), but when the N95 came out that all changed IMO. My sister and a couple of friends both bought themselves a K850i. Very rarely could i say the pictures they took were all that great compared to my N95 8gb. This was evident moreso when we took pictures on both phones, such as my sisters graduation from law school, where my N95 really outperformed the K850i on all lighting modes, sharpness, noise and saturation etc.

I dont doubt for a second the N8 will give better results than anything SE can produce.



Posted by skblakee
A lot will be riding on this N8 for nokia in terms of credibility for the new Symbian3. Failure to impress and nokia will lose much more market share to Android. Impress and Nokia could be back, even if just a little bit.

Posted by Hammerpgh
I am not looking to buy any phone for some time. I have had my Satio since last October.. well I am actually on my second Satio after having my first one snatched on Christmas Eve but had no hesitation in going for another one as a replacement. It has always done everything that I wanted and once hacked has given me access to as many apps and games as I could ever want. I actually use it to access the internet more than I do my laptop now and it has never let me down in the year (almost) I have been using it.

As for the camera I find it superb in most circumstances. I have trusted it so much in fact that I didn't even bother taking a dedicated camera to my daughters graduation ceremony a couple of months ago.

Obviously people have had issues with the Satio and seem very keen to ditch it and find a replacement but for me it has been and still is amongst the top 2 or 3 devices I have had the pleasure to own.

I don't really see how anyone can claim the N8 beats the crap out of the Satio when one of them is not even released yet. Once it's released and it has proven it's reliability and what it can actually do as opposed to what it is claimed to do then that may be a fair point.. but not until that time. The N8 may well be the next phone I go for so I am not knocking it at all, it looks superb and I truly hope it is as good as it is claimed, but the proof is in the pudding and right now the pudding is still in the oven.

Just my two cents worth giving a positive view of the Satio seeing as there are so many negative posts about it.

Cheers all

Posted by norbi_nw
you can find a lot of previews on the nokia, even a concert of Rihanna recorded. Video is very good and the sound is awesome too (well alot of wind and screams made THAT particular video crappy, but image is ok, better than vivaz). And the camera was good from the start, and they still worked on it (not like SE) untill current day. Still i am eager to see ALOT of shots soon. The OS is also improvement from satio and not to mention pinch zoom and HDMI + 3'5 jack (2 standards - actually 3 with the micro USB). The only bad thing is it wont have DivX support.. But nokia is always better at software development than SE so people will come up with a good player, and ofc TONS of mods (like on all Nokias). The Satio is a fail from the start because noone is interested in modding it, no way to improve the camera (it would be a monster of a p phone, but SE made it stay "dumb"). I would go for a 5800XM but it lacks the camera quality (i know satio isnt that good, but 5800 is crap crap). I think N8 will be a good phone if the price is right too. 2 more weeks and we will see head to head.
[ This Message was edited by: norbi_nw on 2010-09-14 15:28 ]


Posted by jj03
@ norbi. The n8 will have divX Support. Thats already been confirmed.

Posted by etaab
Id have to disagree with norbi_nw too, i think the Nokia 5800 was an excellent phone. When it was released in the UK it was only 199.99 on PAYG. Call it 200 for a touch screen S60 phone with tons of apps and Ovi maps, it was an absolute bargain. Even if the camera was just a standard affair.

Oh and for anyone worried about the N8's camera, see gsm arena's blog
[ This Message was edited by: etaab on 2010-09-15 10:56 ]


Posted by jake20
thanks etaab,
those new pics look great, but I am honestly not sure how much better they are than what my C905 can do for just regular point and shoot 4x6, or 5x7 prints, or just looking at on my computer screen.

I am not into zooming, 100% crops, and analyzing every pixel for detail like some people here.
I just want a very good point and shoot camera that can take quality shots in various lighting conditions, including low light.
The 720P video is also a big deal for me, but it doesnt look like it handles low light that well, and there is also no video light, so I still have some questions there as well.

If the video wasnt so bad on the C905, I would probably stick with it, but then again, the lack of new apps for C905 is also very bad.

There is definitely a lot of detail present when zooming in in those shots, thats for sure.. but i would like to see more low light shots.. because that is where my C905 suffers the most.. unless you slow down the shutter speed
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2010-09-15 15:19 ]


Posted by norbi_nw
OMG at those sample shots... i have seen some very good ones untill now, but some of them rule. It's K750i quality brought to 2010 with less noise and more detail. VERY VERY good pictures. Satio can hide.
I admit before i got my K810 the K800 was compared to the N95, and back then i tried to convince myself that K800 is better (was a blind SE fan). Nokia had some color issues, but detail wise it won. But this is over now because if those are unmodified images, the Satio can eat nokias dust. :/
And since when is it confirmed that it has DivX? in that interview with "some nokia guy" its confirmed that it wont have Divx... Would be nice if they have changed their mind.
And again... best shots shot by a mobile device ever (colors and quality too). A little optical distortion but that doesnt matter for me.

Posted by etaab
To be honest, ive seen so many pictures by 8 or 12 megapixel cameraphones i often find it hard to tell the difference. When i saw those pictures on GSM arena's blog i was impressed but not by much. Lets face it when you buy a dedicated digital camera they always take good quality snaps, pretty much guaranteed. Cameraphones do not, because they're not built primarily for that function, so sometimes pictures arent are great as you'd expect.

I think the Satio takes excellent shots. I always have done, so looking at those N8 examples they do luck better but not by much. I think where Nokia have outperformed SE in the camera department is the simple point and shoot method. Nokia phones may have as many advanced camera settings as a SE phone but they do not seem to matter that much. Its always easier to get a good picture first time with a Nokia phone that comes with a good camera - like the N95.

@ jake20 - im not sure where you find the N8 handles low light poorly. Other than comments, do you have a link to pictures to illustrate your worry ? Bear in mind that cameraphones in general usually handle low light nowhere near as good as a dedicated digital camera.

@ norbi_nw - personally i dont see the worry about Divx - its not the end of the world IMO whether a phone has it or not. There is always other codecs to use to encode videos with.

Posted by jake20
Here are some video samples.
they seem really dark and noise in low lighting to me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQdjh1rHA6U&feature=player_embedded

unless they are fakes..
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2010-09-16 14:50 ]


Posted by jj03
there's some video's on gsm showin n8 running divX Films@norbi.

Posted by skblakee
@JJ03; Are you still using your I8910 and does the N8 from reading the previews, strike you as a Nokia version of it? Mind you we are still not certain of what Symbian3 brings.

Posted by etaab
@ jake20 - yeah i see what you mean but then its not something that concerns me, i dont do much video shooting at night time or in low light. In fact i havent done much video shooting since i sold my N93.

Besides, Youtube always lowers the quality of videos so i dont think they're very good examples. When i get mine ill post some videos with mine if you're still unsure about the phone.

Posted by jake20
but then this video looks very good for night concert
you can even download the original source file.. to check original quality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ71M3ANv94
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2010-09-16 20:41 ]



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