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Posted by 10123
Couldnt find a topic on this.

Whats the difference between the two, i have just changed networks and i have a H (HSPDA) icon but not a 3G icon, can you have both or is it one or the other, and also which is better for streaming content of mobile you tube, 3g or Hspda.

Thanks


Posted by daviep
both are 3g,hspda is faster.

Posted by Tsepz_GP
HSDPA is basicaly 3.5G, its faster 3G, it stands for High Speed Downlink Packet Access or something like that. In most SE phones like C902 it gets upto 3.6mbps, whereas 3G Only gets upto 384kbps.

Posted by Bonovox
HSDPA I have downloaded 1mb file in a few seconds its great compared to normal 3G you do notice difference in how fast downloads are.

Posted by mrjulius
@all
Hsdpa dl up t0 3.8mb/s
My unit is C902 in our c0untry accept techn0l0gy of hsdpa.
Ang i can dl mp4 50mb d0wnl0ad in mins sir its different in 3g.

Posted by hafqo
with phones the most you'll get on 3.5g as at now is 3.6mb/s theoretically. But on modems you could reach 7.2mb/s theoretically.

Posted by Residentevil
Current HSDPA (3.5G) devices support down-link speeds of 1.8, 3.6, 7.2 and 14.0 Mbp/s. However, that also means your network needs to support those speeds. If your phone is capable of HSDPA means it can do it, but it depends on the network and real life condition that it actually happens, which is never. But you could go faster than 3G and UMTS.

Posted by carkitter

On 2009-06-10 21:21:17, 10123 wrote:
...and i have a H (HSPDA) icon but not a 3G icon, can you have both or is it one or the other, ...


It's one or the other.
If you get a 3G symbol you might be getting 3G or you might be getting HSDPA, it depends on whether the network provider adds the tag which triggers the symbol on your phone. Some phones display a 3G+ instead of an H.



Posted by yea g
Only voadfone branded phones show the 3g+ icon. All the unbranded se's show an H in a blue square

Posted by Tsepz_GP
Weird, my K850 never shows an H even in a HSDPA area, it just says 3G ,even though i debranded it.

Posted by mrjulius
Sometimes you might have l0w signal.
If im h0me may signal turns edge.
While 0utside back t0 hsdpa in 0ther place 3g.
It defends on your place

Posted by carkitter

On 2009-06-27 00:14:45, GUCCI.011 wrote:
Weird, my K850 never shows an H even in a HSDPA area, it just says 3G ,even though i debranded it.




On 2009-06-26 08:46:48, carkitter wrote:

If you get a 3G symbol you might be getting 3G or you might be getting HSDPA, it depends on whether the network provider adds the tag which triggers the symbol on your phone. Some phones display a 3G+ instead of an H.



Posted by hafqo
the k850 has only 3g but k850i has 3.5g. You can verify from gsmarena.com.

Posted by Tsepz_GP
K850i has 2G, 2.5G plus BOTH 3G and 3.5G, the K850c just has 2G AND 2.5G.
Anyway,my mates N82 displays 3.5G when there's HSDPA and his on the same network.

Posted by Bonovox
Orange UK branded phones show 3G+ i prefer the H.

Posted by dantc702
yeah i prefer H also, but sometimes 3G is better than nothing. It always depend on your location.

Posted by freezone
i like 3G it better than HSDPA

This message was posted from a N70

Posted by dantc702
why you say so?

Posted by nomben
HSDPA is better i think.. just looking at its capability

Posted by razec
if you have HSDPA network then its better, else 3G is sufficient enough for mobile broadband. but if you have WiMax then you dont need both...

Posted by StevenC
Technically HSDPA is same as 3G. The only difference is that there are improvement in software layers for HSDPA.

Posted by bateer
Wimax? Whats the diffence with hsdpa nd 3g?

Posted by carkitter
There are two technologies for 4G - LTE and Wimax.
LTE (Long Term Evolution) developed by Ericsson is capable of 155Mbps maximum and is what most of the networks are moving to.
WiMax is a modified version of wifi which can cover a distance up to 50 miles, but is unlikely to gain much traction. It will only prove to be a distraction from LTE much as CDMA was a distraction from GSM/UMTS/WCDMA.
You cannot connect an existing wifi device with WiMax to my knowledge.
[ This Message was edited by: carkitter on 2009-09-12 21:51 ]


Posted by mode
W995 is the only SE phone in the market with 7.2mbps HSDPA and 2.0mbps HSUPA. With the latest firmware, my 3G signal will switch to HSDPA automatically everytime I connect to the internet which is great, before this it used to pick up any signal that was strongest. It downloads really fast, maximum I had was 500kb per sec but usually it's around 100-200kb depending on location and network provider, but I find the HSUPA to be especially useful with all the stuff we upload on the net these days. Couldn't upload jack with my 3G capable-P990 as it was too slow to the point that it prompts error messages from websites most of the time. Downloading was OK but only went up to 40kb per sec, max.
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Posted by mallaccra
3G is capable up to 384Kbps downlink speeds, 3.5G/HSDPA up to 7.2Mbps the maximum theoretical rate is 14.4 Mbps. WiMax is still very slow in its deployment though it has been roll out...

i've tried WiMax connection and it has a very very low signal dropped, covers a wider area, poor in downloading, not that good in uploading, take ages to load webpages and sometimes no connection activity
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Posted by markphil
it really depends on your network .


Posted by carkitter

On 2009-10-01 08:35:44, mallaccra wrote:
3G is capable up to 384Kbps downlink speeds, 3.5G/HSDPA up to 7.2Mbps the maximum theoretical rate is 14.4 Mbps. WiMax is still very slow in its deployment though it has been roll out...

i've tried WiMax connection and it has a very very low signal dropped, covers a wider area, poor in downloading, not that good in uploading, take ages to load webpages and sometimes no connection activity
[ This Message was edited by: mallaccra on 2009-10-01 07:47 ]



21Mbps HSDPA is available in Australia since February and VodafoneNZ is releasing a 21Mbps HSDPA upgrade in Auckland this month.

AFAIK, WiMax is still in the development stage and will be rolled out first in the US.

Posted by Nhyrohale23
the only way to have either is to be in a NETWORK that supports it. I recommend talking to each about if their service support HSDPA or 3G, also make sure that your phone can support either HSDPA or 3G

Posted by Ke
Hey! Hello people out there! Thanks for this thread & to those posters who inform me about the difference of 3G & HSDPA, now I am enlightened!

Posted by jaydy1206
A very big thanks to the person who brought this topic and a big appreciation to all the posters.......i can now choose between k770 and j105.....i will appreciate more enlighten on which one to go for.......thanks to all in advance.

Posted by rochel.o8
Im glad i have my g502, which is 3G an HSDPA enabled

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Posted by wackyboey

On 2010-05-31 08:55:00, rochel.o8 wrote:
Im glad i have my g502, which is 3G an HSDPA enabled



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my g502 use my phone explorer
because the signal of 3g is low

and i'm not modif the 3g only in g502

Posted by Hypochlorite
Im using SE w910i,my phone does supports HSDPA and 3G which i dnt really know the diffrnc btwn them.Bt i notice dat HSDPA is the rarest one as compared to 3G,it gets shown when im in a big city.i dnt like EDGE due to its slowness.i'd like to know which is better between W995 and J105 according to every perfomance.

Posted by mriley
@Hypochlorite
Where the antenna is positioned on the phone affects its ability to get a good signal, so look into that if you want to know, maybe someone knows where antenna is positioned on the W995 or naite

Posted by sudzdogg
My phone doesnt show either the H or 3G+ symbol when in coverage in HSPDA signal. my phone isnt network locked.

Posted by MKY47
HSPA is like a turbo charged 3g . Any phone that supports 4G?

Posted by Rasta0000
Cellc has recently upgraded their network to 4G my fone is 3G/HSDPA enabled 910i and it has never displayed the 3G sign but on vodacom and mtn it does. Anyone on cell ever experianced the 4G service and where? Cause I have been to all S.A's major cities but as I have already said I haven't experianced it.

Posted by tobias84
You can't get 4G on an ordinary phone, you need an 4G phone. and it's not much 4G phones out there.

Posted by Rasta0000
@Tobias cellc on my fone doesn't even reach 3G its always EDGE. My fone 3G it should atleast connect at 3G instead of 4G or EDGE, or how does this work?

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Posted by 1gn1t0r
I think cellc has upgraded to 4G but they still don't support 3G.

Posted by Rasta0000
Ya. This is crazy! How can they do that? From edge to 4G an still dont support 3G, it confusing.

Posted by MabaM
Rasta is ryt ...it just dont make any sense

Posted by jplacson
4G doesn't officially exist yet. Any current tech is just 3G (calling it 3.5G is just lame, that's like saying "almost a hole in one" or "almost won the lottery")

The official 4G specs have not been finalized yet, as current 3G tech is already evolving beyond what 4G was supposed to be. WiMax & LTE are 'candidate' 4G technologies. But until ONE standard is chosen none of them are officially 4G yet.

All proposed 4G approved tech is still scheduled to be released.

Back to the topic:

HSDPA/HSPA are faster than the basic '3G' on the phone indicator. The reason why some people only get the 3G indicator even if their provider has HSPA is simple... economics. Just because your provider claims to have HSDPA or HSPA, doesn't mean they use it, or have it deployed all over their network.

Posted by ALEOTTO
The event that you have arrange, at that point its better, else 3G is adequate enough for portable broadband. in any case, in the event that you have WiMax, at that point you dont need both.

Posted by *Jojo*
. . and it's already 2022, and we are already into - 5G ! How time flies, and so does technology !


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