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Vlammetje
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if it ain't broken don't fix it 
but I would never put my photo on view on this board... lemme keep my phone 
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mixin
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On 2004-06-23 14:14:43, Vlammetje wrote:
the amount of time spent online typing is an indication how much a total stranger should know??
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Well generally, yeah. Someone who has been on the forums for a year or so, and made 500 odd posts, it shows that they are active. If they are active then they are more likely to know quite a bit due to reading lots of topics in that time period. Granted, they may have been posting garbage all that time and not spent any time reading or replying to anything other than garbage. And you'll get people who already know a lot before they join. And they are exceptions. But its only a small indication. Im not gonna completly judge people by their post count and join date.
But hey, who knows, maybe i just think like that because i am silly? 
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scotsboyuk
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I don't have anything against the post count per se; it is just that it seems to have become something of a snob factor. The idea of 'raising the bar', so to speak, isn't actually that bad an idea, although it would probably just encourage people to post more tosh in an effort to reach the new marker.
If the post count is to stay then perhaps the best solution would be to get rid of the five hundred marker and simply have the number of posts someone has made.
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mixin
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the whole idea of the >500 marker, was to stop people posting tosh to reach the obvious targets of:
1000
2000
etc
And then to stop people trying to have the highest post count.
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scotsboyuk
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I don't think it has worked very well in that regard; if anything it seems to encourage the posting of copious amounts of tosh simply to reach the five hundred mark.
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mixin
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But then if it wasnt there, you'd get more tosh with people trying to hit the 1000 mark.
500 bits of tosh per person is better than 1000 bits of tosh per person.
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Vlammetje
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there is no correlation between activity on the board and expertise on the subject of  phones.
I like to submit myself into evidence as exhibit A to proof specifically that point
For the rest.... it seems all has been said that needs to be said. I vote for ending this topic 
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scotsboyuk
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Hence why I suggested scrapping the idea of a marker, a better idea, in my opinion, would be to display the number of posts someone has made. It could be argued that this would encourage people to post more tosh in an effort to outdo one another, although I don't believe that this would be the case. As a member progresses he\she would no doubt become bored by trying to post as much as possible, most people simply do not have the time for it, of course there would be exceptions, but isn't that the case at the moment anyway?
Another option would be to keep the marker, but lower it, to one hundred posts say, perhaps even lower; that way members would reach the marker much sooner and perhaps discourage the posting of tosh to reach a higher marker.
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mixin
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On 2004-06-23 15:11:22, Vlammetje wrote:
there is no correlation between activity on the board and expertise on the subject of phones.
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So you've not learnt much during your stay at esato then?
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energetic
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To be honest I dont think this will encourage our members to post just to reach the 1000 goal. Its a high limit to reach any way. 500 posts is something that is easy to reach but if it was 2000 or 3000??? Nobody would bother to do so.
But this is not the reason that we are here to ESATO or is it? Because if that is the case then.... what can I say?
Personally I like the ESATO body and structure of the site as it is. And I must say am really glad to see that Laffen and Esato group are very creative and are trying to do their best for Esato and the members. Since the day I joined the biggest satisfaction is that I see a child(Esato) growing to a man(ESATO) among others and am really happy that this has been achieved with maturity.
After all this time I've been here I see ESATO like its something close to me. I feel a relationship created between us and feel bad when the site is down due to a problem and cannot reach etc. Am not one of the veterans regarding the time that are joined here but I wish I could offer more to ESATO.
I believe am not the only one who feels that way but many others as well!
PS: After reading all this I feel kind emotional at the moment. A big hug please!
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Vlammetje
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On 2004-06-23 15:17:00, MixiN wrote:
So you've not learnt much during your stay at esato then?
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I have learnt, 'much' is already debatable, but I do NOT have the answer to most questions, no matter how long I've been here.
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scotsboyuk
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@energetic
Whilst passionate and certainly touching, I'm not quite sure if your comments have much to do with the issue of the post count. I love Esato too, but I would love to see it with a lot less tosh posted and members with a greater sense of equality. Terms such as 'veteran' and 'newbie' that we bandy around, what do they actually mean, what exactly defines a 'veteran' and what defines a 'newbie'? If it is post count then it isn't an accurate estimation of that member's knowledge or regard within Esato, the same is also true of the date joined.
These sort of issues have previously been discussed in this thread http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=43104 and I don't think it is necessary to go over them in detail here. I suggested scrapping the post count because I believe that it would make Esatonians a lot more equal, without status symbols members cannot confer it upon themselves; those members who are knowledgeable and provide help to others would become known through reputation, thus earning respect through the help and information they provide, not because of a number.
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mixin
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But you know more about SE products since you've joined. And cos you've been here a year and been active, which is obvious by your post count, i'd say my theory fits right into place.
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scotsboyuk
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Incidentally, all this debate is raising our post counts as we type!
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energetic
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@scotsboyuk
You mentioned the following
"those members who are knowledgeable and provide help to others would become known through reputation, thus earning respect through the help and information they provide, not because of a number."
I agree with you in some respect but what really defines reputation and respect through the help and information providing to others?
Remember what happened in my case with the "P800 turning into P900" thing? Until that time my credibility was quite stable lets say and I created one topic and got blamed for quite a lot of things regarding this issue.
I know exactly what you mean and what is your point about the Post Count but like Laffen said there is a reason to keep this working.
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Posted: 2004-06-23 14:33
ink p800:: 
urple t630:: 
