Posted by l337h1um
On 2009-02-09 14:47:42, Boinng wrote:
That would depend on whether posters like you, Nitro Fan and l337h1um feel like bringing up the iPhone again
Excuse me sir. I believe we, as a collective, were queried by another forum user on the suitability of each of three current mobile phones for said user.
I believe I provided a simple fair comparison between the X1 and Touch HD. Moving aside the superior looks and hardware keyboard of the X1 and the larger display of the Touch HD for a moment, the devices are essentially one and the same when one considers that, with a little looking around, each of these products' OEM-supplied Windows Mobile UI extension are available for the other. As such, the primary pursuading factor when comparing these two very similar devices is obviously the hardware keyboard.
Regarding my comments about the iPhone: not once in my previous post comparing these three devices did I disregard the iPhone as an effective solution to your needs, nor the needs of the aforementioned forum user. I simply did not include the obvious and well-known fact that the iPhone is easier to use and has a user interface that is, overall, easier to use than Windows Mobile, serious omissions notwithstanding. What I was implying is that there is no reason to choose Windows Mobile over the iPhone if each and every one of the features that I listed are of no value to the user. Hence my basic list - and I mean basic, as there are many, many more glaring omissions from Apple's offering - shoud not be viewed as discrediting the device. In fact, on careful re-reading, you will find that I actually suggested the iPhone to bo_sagoor if he or she has no need for any of the features in the list.
Quite simply, the fact of the matter is that all three of these devices are deficient in some area and, if you ask me right now, all three of them suck. The X1 sucks. The iPhone sucks. The Touch HD sucks. The 5800 sucks. The N96 sucks. The N97 sucks. The P1 sucks. Every single bloody phone out there, has fairly obvious issues that the manufacturers of each of them have either ignored or sidestepped around. The truth is, no matter which device (s)he chooses, (s)he will be disappointed with it in some way.
So... I would appreciate it if you would refrain from including myself in the blanket covering you have enshrouded "posters who feel like bringing up the iPhone again" with.
Now if you will excuse me, I should get back to work.
Posted by JiSm
.... so continuing on with our X1.....
I had a problem with my keypad where the lower part were double or sometimes tripple inputting the letter/symbol etc. It drove me nuts enough to make me take apart My X1 and see what the hell was going on.
It was relatively easy to come apart and no real tricks to it. In getting to the keypad and removing the pressure pads I discovered the problem. The glue that hold the pressure pads on the circuit board had actually run onto the contacts. Im guessing from the heat (here in NZ its around 30˚C atm) so pretty sure its covered by warranty for those with one. All I did was use a small amount of contact cleaner on a lintfree rag and clean all the contacts and pressure pads of the excess glue.
Now works PERFECT.
Posted by sambouka
New panel ! PointUI 2.0
Download here: http://www.pointui.com/products/home-2
http://downloads.pointui.com/[....]intui.Home2.X1.Free.Latest.cab
Posted by sambouka
Windows Mobile 6.5 screenshots leak
http://www.phonearena.com/htm[....]shots-leak-article-a_4060.html
Posted by myth®
On 2009-02-09 14:38:16, Boinng wrote:
If you had any idea of just how much the iPhone can do these days
Are u still around with the same old & hopeless propaganda for a hopeless device ?
Posted by WhyBe
Sooner or later someone is going to top or match the iPhone OS (hasn't happened yet). When it happens, it'll be funny to see the tables turned.
Posted by iainkane
Just wondering what sat nav software people use on their x1?
Posted by mattiL
On 2009-02-15 11:54:37, iainkane wrote:
Just wondering what sat nav software people use on their x1?
TomTom 7
Posted by Dare1
On 2009-02-15 11:54:37, iainkane wrote:
Just wondering what sat nav software people use on their x1?
iGO8 8.3.2.71348 and Garmin Mobile XT 5.0.20. However both have GPS lag around 50m.
Regards!
Posted by WhyBe
Which GPS software for X1 is most accurate? Are any as accurate as the built-in GPS systems in a car?
Posted by Nitro Fan
On 2009-02-09 14:47:42, Boinng wrote:
That would depend on whether posters like you, Nitro Fan and l337h1um feel like bringing up the iPhone again
You want to start reading the posts properly mate, I responded to a point on the iphrone I did not bring it up.
Posted by l337h1um
TomTom 7 is awesome. Much more accurate than Wayfinder which comes with the device.
Edit:
And much faster, too.
[ This Message was edited by: l337h1um on 2009-02-15 23:31 ]
Posted by mib1800
On 2009-02-15 00:28:12, WhyBe wrote:
Sooner or later someone is going to top or match the iPhone OS (hasn't happened yet). When it happens, it'll be funny to see the tables turned.
I think your statement should be qualify to skin-deep "look and feel". If you talk about guts, iphone OS is just so crap.
Posted by WhyBe
Well I'm not an iPhone programmer so I can't comment on the inner workings of it's OS. I'm just talking about the overall experience of the iPhone OS and not just the shell either.
Posted by anonymuser
On 2009-02-15 00:28:12, WhyBe wrote:
Sooner or later someone is going to top or match the iPhone OS (hasn't happened yet). When it happens, it'll be funny to see the tables turned.
What tables?
if something better than the iPhone comes out I'll point it out and buy one - this has nothing to do with brand loyalty for me.[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2009-02-16 07:55 ]
Posted by carkitter
On 2009-02-16 08:51:53, Boinng wrote:
On 2009-02-15 00:28:12, WhyBe wrote:
Sooner or later someone is going to top or match the iPhone OS (hasn't happened yet). When it happens, it'll be funny to see the tables turned.
What tables?
if something better than the iPhone comes out I'll point it out and buy one - this has nothing to do with brand loyalty for me.
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2009-02-16 07:55 ]
Or me. I agree with Boinng, the iPhone is simply the best device out there and redefines what a mobile phone should do.
Having said that, I'm REALLY excited about the Idou which seems to combine the best of the iPhone 3G with next generation technology from
and Symbian Foundation. The crucial issue will be the success of the Apps and whether Developers AND THEIR CLIENTS (the business world at large) get on board with this platform as they did with the iPhone. If not, Apple will move further ahead and that will be bad for the rest of the industry.
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[ This Message was edited by: carkitter on 2009-02-16 10:40 ]
Posted by WhyBe
On 2009-02-16 11:40:02, carkitter wrote:
On 2009-02-16 08:51:53, Boinng wrote:
On 2009-02-15 00:28:12, WhyBe wrote:
Sooner or later someone is going to top or match the iPhone OS (hasn't happened yet). When it happens, it'll be funny to see the tables turned.
What tables?
if something better than the iPhone comes out I'll point it out and buy one - this has nothing to do with brand loyalty for me.
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2009-02-16 07:55 ]
Or me. I agree with Boinng, the iPhone is simply the best device out there and redefines what a mobile phone should do.
Having said that, I'm REALLY excited about the Idou which seems to combine the best of the iPhone 3G with next generation technology from
and Symbian Foundation. The crucial issue will be the success of the Apps and whether Developers AND THEIR CLIENTS (the business world at large) get on board with this platform as they did with the iPhone. If not, Apple will move further ahead and that will be bad for the rest of the industry.@Boinng
Sorry, but, my point was not directed at you. iPhone does enjoy a comfortable position that other manufacturers can't seem to get right--even with far superior hardware
@carkitter
The Idou, TouchPro2 and Diamond2 seem like really nice pieces of hardware. However, I am very concerned about the quality of their OS'es and their software too (especially the Idou). Until they get the software & OS to the level of iPhone, they will be yet another addition to the long list of failed iPhone challengers. I am not going to be suckered in by great hardware only to have a 2nd rate experience due to the software and support.
My most anticipated product is the new WinMo 6.5, then hopefully WM7. I'll consider new innovative hardware when it's software becomes just as innovative. What would excite me is an Idou with a keyboard and an iTunes equivalent service and software that matches the "prettiness" of the OS shell.
It will be interesting to see how Apple responds to the oncoming crop of new hardware. Will they update their iPhone hardware platform or will they stick to their guns since the larger mainstream really only cares about the ecosystem and support and not about hi-res screens and high-megapixel cameras?
[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2009-02-16 13:44 ]
Posted by VinnyP!
When I finally got my X1 there were 6 Iphones in my office. Now there are 10 X1 s and only one is sticking to her i-phone but she is wavering. The I-Phone has won I agree but that is testament to their marketing not it's ability. The i-phone also wins on value the X1 with a decent set of software is a lot of money over the i-phone and it needs that software to compete. Having said that the i-phone needs a decent office suite badly.
Posted by WhyBe
10 X1's to 1 iPhone? How did that happen?
[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2009-02-17 01:58 ]
Posted by l337h1um
Hmm...
"Getting the iPhone is like going after Paris Hilton. She's hot, but your average garden gnome has her beaten in the IQ department. Getting the X1 is like going after Marie Curie. She's a bit... well... rough, on the outside, but she's got it where it counts."
-Myself.
Edit:
Actually, I think Paris Hilton's pretty average, myself. It's just an example.
[ This Message was edited by: l337h1um on 2009-02-17 03:01 ]
Posted by WhyBe
Well, since you put it that way, I'm selling my X1 and getting an iPhone tomorrow!
Posted by gauravsali
Can we upgrade x1 to win 6.5?
Posted by WhyBe
You can download the 6.5 Beta right here. Later this year HTC will officially make it available for the Touch Pro 2
(which matches the specs of the X1), so logically X1 should be capable of running it.
Posted by gauravsali
Thnx whybe
Posted by WhyBe
Multicore iPhone coming?
I wonder how Apple would take advantage of multiple cores on a mobile platform? ...and the battery life too?
Posted by rraz9228
@WhyBe
Sorry for OT but are you using your X1 with at&t? If yes, do you have the settings to use to configure the internet access on at&t's 3G networks?
Thanks,
Rod
Posted by WhyBe
I have the X1i on AT&T. The X1 automatically finds networks and lets you choose which one you want to use. I just selected AT&T and it configured everything automatically.
I believe it is in Settings->Connections->Connection Setup. Also, on that screen, do Menu->Enable Auto Configuration.
[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2009-02-19 00:09 ]
Posted by rraz9228
On 2009-02-19 00:47:08, WhyBe wrote:
I have the X1i on AT&T. The X1 automatically finds networks and lets you choose which one you want to use. I just selected AT&T and it configured everything automatically.
I believe it is in Settings->Connections->Connection Setup. Also, on that screen, do Menu->Enable Auto Configuration.
[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2009-02-19 00:09 ]
Great! Thanks WhyBe.
Posted by rraz9228
@WhyBe
Does the lack of 850 frequency giving you any problems at all or not?
Thanks
Posted by WhyBe
Well, I moved from Ohio (1900MHz 3G) to Tennessee (850MHz 3G). So now I have no 3G signal
. Therefore my internet is slightly slower (nothing too terrible). Phone call quality/reception has not changed though.
Posted by rraz9228
On 2009-02-19 22:12:10, WhyBe wrote:
Well, I moved from Ohio (1900MHz 3G) to Tennessee (850MHz 3G). So now I have no 3G signal
. Therefore my internet is slightly slower (nothing too terrible). Phone call quality/reception has not changed though.
So the difference in speed on the internet between EDGE and 3G are not that significant?
By the way, thanks for all your input.
Posted by WhyBe
On 2009-02-19 23:18:40, rraz9228 wrote:
So the difference in speed on the internet between EDGE and 3G are not that significant?...
I haven't done any quantitative tests, but, there's definitely not a night and day difference.
Posted by philosophy72
i am a new x-man(x1 of course) just having slight difficulty with internet settings on t- zones. not able to access web. yet i am able to receive e-mail
do i have to upgrade to t-mo web? hopefully not. any help much appreciated
Posted by WhyBe
Does T-Mo data frequencies correlate with your X1's ?
Posted by shamuloco
Hi, ive been had an X1 for like 4 months now... and i had just realized that it has a crack on one side of the phone :S... its like just under the volume buttons... and also... the vibrator doesn't work anymore... ive never dropped it, i take really good care of it... i spend a lot of money for this phone, and its not as a good quality as the P990i i use to have...
Do you think this is part of the warranty? :S... because its only been 4 months and i don't use it as much as most of you guys...
And i hate it, because i always take really really good care of the stuff i buy... specially if its expensive...
Posted by philosophy72
@whybe
yes it does. When i called tmo one of the tech experts said they will eliminate t-zones in near future. from my personal experience this is the first time i had difficulties with settings. I can also say for the price i am not totally sold(happy not excited) as some of the other people have mentioned. maybe i will look towards idou or future x-series without windows mobile.
Posted by VinnyP!
On 2009-02-17 01:50:03, WhyBe wrote:
10 X1's to 1 iPhone? How did that happen?
[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2009-02-17 01:58 ]
All bar one of the previous Iphone users have switched to X1s. Also 4 others have also switched from other makes as well.
Posted by anonymuser
On 2009-02-23 07:16:18, VinnyP! wrote:
All bar one of the previous Iphone users have switched to X1s. Also 4 others have also switched from other makes as well.
That's pretty remarkable. Just saying.
Posted by philosophy72
any indication of when the battery is fully charged when x1 is off? My p990 showed a steady green light.
anyone out there to tell me otherwise why i should not return x1a?
any good apps out there that make this phone shine?
windows mobile has let me down
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Posted by WhyBe
On 2009-02-23 19:44:15, philosophy72 wrote:
any indication of when the battery is fully charged when x1 is off? My p990 showed a steady green light.
anyone out there to tell me otherwise why i should not return x1a?
any good apps out there that make this phone shine?
windows mobile has let me down
There are four indicator lights around the X1 indicating it's charging state.
You should definitely return the X1 if you aren't satisfied with it...I would. I don't think there is a magical app only available for X1 that will make you want to stay with X1.
Windows mobile has well documented "flaws" but I think the make or break for any device (outside of it's hardware) should be the quality of available software.
Posted by doministry
On 2009-02-23 19:44:15, philosophy72 wrote:
any indication of when the battery is fully charged when x1 is off? My p990 showed a steady green light.
anyone out there to tell me otherwise why i should not return x1a?
any good apps out there that make this phone shine?
windows mobile has let me down
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[ This Message was edited by: philosophy72 on 2009-02-23 20:09 ]
When the phone is fully charged click the battery icon and if it's shown full - it's full. If it's still charging, it's shown with the plug in.
The apps - man, just look at xda-developers.com or freewarepocketoc.net and find something you like.
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Posted by philosophy72
thanks for all replies. idou or n97 are my next choices
Posted by Mitzy
i hate the x1, i ve had it 4 mths now.. really doin my head nice fone 2 look at but sooo many flaws. plus have it in sliver n it looks like i have had the phone for ages.. wrecked..
when batterys low it, it responds slower and if batterys dead the phone will not switch on untill got enought battery 2 work.
crack underneath volume button
slow to respond
not enough applications
multi taskin rubbish cannot listen 2 music whilst writtin a tx.
could go on.. what is a better phone 2 get???
Posted by doministry
On 2009-03-02 10:20:49, Mitzy wrote:
i hate the x1, i ve had it 4 mths now.. really doin my head nice fone 2 look at but sooo many flaws. plus have it in sliver n it looks like i have had the phone for ages.. wrecked..
when batterys low it, it responds slower and if batterys dead the phone will not switch on untill got enought battery 2 work.
crack underneath volume button
slow to respond
not enough applications
multi taskin rubbish cannot listen 2 music whilst writtin a tx.
could go on.. what is a better phone 2 get???
Sorry but you maybe cannot operate it??
Multitasking is perfect on this.
Just when you want to listen to the music and do other things don't exit media panel OR use WMedia Player.
Not enough applications??!! What a rubbi**h! It has the biggest amount of apps available.
I never ever had my phone slowdown when battery is down.
And it's fairly logical that when battery is out the device does not start, isn't it???!!!
Man....
Posted by Jabe
And it's fairly logical that when battery is out the device does not start, isn't it???!!!
Just let the battery to run flat and then you'll see what he is talking about. I love my xperia, it is the best phone I have ever owned and by far the phone I have most enjoyed but this issue in unforgivable (i believe it's a WM thing not xperia specific)
Posted by echo.shane
On 2009-03-02 10:20:49, Mitzy wrote:
i hate the x1, i ve had it 4 mths now.. really doin my head nice fone 2 look at but sooo many flaws. plus have it in sliver n it looks like i have had the phone for ages.. wrecked..
when batterys low it, it responds slower and if batterys dead the phone will not switch on untill got enought battery 2 work.
crack underneath volume button
slow to respond
not enough applications
multi taskin rubbish cannot listen 2 music whilst writtin a tx.
could go on.. what is a better phone 2 get???
oh my seem like you handle the phone very bad. or is it the phone qualitypoor. if not id never give you a phone call of my p1 cuz i dont want you to scatch the sliver off. ive had my p1 for 4 months now and it still looks new performance is good 8.5/10.
sorry you having that experience with your x1
Posted by Nitro Fan
Steve Bulmer of Microsoft has proved that
hitched its wagon to the wrong horse with the X1..... no surprise to me though!
Courtesy PC Pro Magazine
"Steve Ballmer has tacitly conceded that Windows Mobile 6.5 is no match for the iPhone or Google Android.
Speaking at Microsoft's Public Sector CIO Summit in Redmond, Ballmer was put on the spot by a member of the audience, who questioned the company's mobile phone strategy.
"With platforms like the Google phone and iPhone coming out, it's really tough to continue to stand behind Windows Mobile when our employees are bringing these consumer devices into our environments," Chris Kemp, the CIO of NASA's Ames Research Center said to Ballmer, according to a report on TechFlash.
"I'm wondering what your commitment is to continuing to get newer versions of the operating system in our hands so that we don't have to fight this battle on the ground."
Ballmer admitted the company was falling behind its rivals. "We have a significant release coming this year," he said. "Not the full release we wanted to have this year but we have a significant release coming this year with Windows Mobile 6.5."
"But I think with Windows Mobile 6.5, there will be phones in market this year. We still don't get some of the things that people want on the highest-end phones. Those will come on Windows Mobile 7 next year.
Posted by wafzal
Great phone, very stylish and great features.
Posted by Astral1
Had mine since October.
Ive had my ups and downs with it in that time, but now i wouldnt swap it for anything else on the market, at the moment.
I still feel that this phone has not reached its full potential, yet.
I dont know whether SE will ever manage to finish the X1, in time, but with the help of the XDA devs, i think theres a lot this phone still has to give.
No regrets about buying the X1.
Posted by Nitro Fan
Oh you fan boys you really do have blinkers on I was referring to the OS!