Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 discussion

Posted by borisisinvin
@ bloob, actually you want the panel to keep playing music in the background when you use the "start menu". It's the only way to multi task with media player still functioning in the back ground! Like I mentioned in my previous post when you close the panel the music stops so you can't do it that way (like you could with say any of SE's dumb Walkman phones), which is a problem. I rely on my phone as my MP3 player (in this case the X1 now) and use it with my car deck to wirelessly play music over my car's speakers. I also don't own a dedicated GPS, and subsequently like to use my phone for that too. With my old trusty N95 8GB I would just play music over my car stereo while using the phone and it's GPS feature to find my way with Google maps. While driving around I still want to listen to tunes, but also rely on my phone to give me directions. So, you NEED the music to keep playing when you hit the "start menu", or else you wouldn't otherwise be able to multi-task with your phone while listening to your music in the background. Are you having any luck getting the media panel to recognize or find the playlist that you created on your computer and transfered to your phone btw?... The WMP on the phone sees them and plays them, however the Media Panel just won't... I'm so aggravated.....

Oh, and by the way, I'm kind of embarrassed to admit this, but I think I actually miss my old Nokia's number pad! It was so much easier to drive and push buttons by feel to zoom in, zoom out, and move forwards and backwards in Google maps. I also miss what I once thought to be redundant and gimmicky slide out media buttons on my N95. There's something to be said about having the ability to change tracks while using google maps without having to worry about minimizing apps with the X1's tiny corner app manager and operating a motor vehicle (since it's now become apparent that this phone lacks Bluetooth AVRCP support).

I also hate the bezel around the recessed screen which makes it almost impossible to move WM's itsy bitsy slider on the side of navigation menus with your finger... Battery life btw so far has been pretty atrocious on my phone. I've been charging it about twice a day with the same amount of use I used to get out of my N95 on T-mobile USA's all GSM and Edge only network (I've NEVER used 3G service with either phone!)! Good thing I got car charger for this thing. I hope this all helps out any potential buyers still on the fence about this particular phone.

[ This Message was edited by: borisisinvin on 2008-12-08 08:42 ]

Posted by bloob
On no, I'm saying that playing in the background while running another application via the Start menu is GOOD. But why should the music stop when we switch to another Panel?

That quite defeats the purpose and usefulness of the Media Xperiance Panel

Posted by spine6
I hope the xda community can find a way to used multimedia panel while doing something else.

Posted by doministry
But doesn't it seem LOGICAL that if you EXIT the panel, apps are closed??
In reverse - starting apps from the menu gives multitasking.
Isn't it needed??

Posted by spine6
On what SE said,the 9 panels are active so if you select other panel.the others are still active right??

Posted by s32bauer
Hello everyone,

Is there anyway to make the internet connection 'timeout'?

With my P1i, I used to have my emails scheduled to be checked every hour. On the hour, it would connect to my O2 GPRS and download the emails, and then disconnect from GPRS. The same applied when I was sending an email, it would disconnect automatically after about 15-20 seconds (like it does when receiving an MMS).

However, on my X1 is just stays connected. I've tried leaving it, but it was still connected an hour later. Is there anyway to add these sort of time out or auto disconnection settings?

Thanks

Andy

Posted by WhyBe

On 2008-12-08 14:32:44, spine6 wrote:
On what SE said,the 9 panels are active so if you select other panel.the others are still active right??

The "Active panels" feature doesn't seem to be fully implemented. I would call the X-panel screen, a "desktop selector".

Posted by WhyBe
Walmart to start selling iPhones!

Apple is going to saturate the smartphone market with this deal. They might as well give iPhones away free in every box of cereal.

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Posted by borisisinvin

On 2008-12-08 16:44:15, s32bauer wrote:
Hello everyone,

Is there anyway to make the internet connection 'timeout'?

With my P1i, I used to have my emails scheduled to be checked every hour. On the hour, it would connect to my O2 GPRS and download the emails, and then disconnect from GPRS. The same applied when I was sending an email, it would disconnect automatically after about 15-20 seconds (like it does when receiving an MMS).

However, on my X1 is just stays connected. I've tried leaving it, but it was still connected an hour later. Is there anyway to add these sort of time out or auto disconnection settings?

Thanks

Andy

I second that. With my old Nokia N95 8GB it would only access my phone's data connection (edge on tmob in the US) when it needed too (for IMAP4 email pushing) and then shut off the connection when done. I now think this is mostly why my battery life is in the toilet, and more a Windows Mobile 6.1 problem than a SE Xperia X1 designed thing. Winmob obviously has piss poor data connection management software... Who wants to sit around and babysit their phone, turning off the data connection after every email download?... I think I'm going to change my email preferences to every 4 hours, or maybe I'll just manually update when I need to or want to check my email so I can kill the connection afterwards? Also did you notice that you can't designate at what hours it checks your email?!? I thought this was a professional pocket PC? Why CAN'T I schedule the hours that I want it to retrieve my email again?.... I could easily do that on my Nokia, and never had to worry about THAT phone waking me up in the middle of the night with a new email notification. Talk about INCONVENIENT, At this rate the N97 can't come out soon enough IMHO!...

[ This Message was edited by: borisisinvin on 2008-12-08 20:27 ]

Posted by WhyBe
Maybe you have some software running (that you're not aware of) that requires constant data connection?

What's the point of disconnecting anyways ?

[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-12-08 20:28 ]

Posted by borisisinvin
Nope. I haven't really downloaded anything on it except for Xpera tweak and Sling Media's Sling Player, which I just found out doesn't work on the phone to begin with...

Also, when I check the open apps using the application manger in the corner nothing is open, except for active sync sometimes which I always promptly close.

edit: I thought the point would be obvious? The point of disconnecting your data connection is so that it doesn't kill your battery, imagine if I actually had a working 3G network connected and running on my phone instead of JUST edge?!? Would you want that thing connected and on 24/7 with your X1? Are you currently on AT&T with your X1 using it all of the time? You know they have soft caps right, and will throttle your data speeds down to GPRS speeds if you exceed their soft cap limits?... Not to mention Your battery would be dead by mid day (I think I read you get about 6 hours of service from the phone using 3G)! Also, I don't want to excessively use my mobile internet causing Tmob to become suspicious of me... That's it in a nutshell, plus like I previously stated all of my other phones have terminated their data connection after using it for a program or application, including BOTH all of the smart AND dumb phones that I've ever owned.

[ This Message was edited by: borisisinvin on 2008-12-08 22:50 ]

Posted by Tigershark42

On 2008-12-08 14:25:42, doministry wrote:
But doesn't it seem LOGICAL that if you EXIT the panel, apps are closed??
In reverse - starting apps from the menu gives multitasking.
Isn't it needed??

THANK YOU!

Finally someone understands. Lol basically whenever the device does something the user doesnt want it to do, someone somewhere will call it a bug, and later that same someone somewhere will probably post about it here. I find more reason in it since I have some programming experience. However, if the reverse were to be true, how many people would be on here complaining that they cant stop the friggin panels, saying that they are trying to take over their lives! You just can't please everyone. So better that it is kept simple and functional. WMP is always there for those who want a constant supply of music (and although its not as slick as the SE Media Panel, it isnt half bad and certainly gets the job done

Posted by Peio
hi

about the remaining connection problem, download "shap's advanced config" program (google it), there's the option to disconnect after a time you decide.

it works on my diamond

Posted by borisisinvin

I think you're totally missing the whole point I'm trying to make here. I know WMP player is functional and works on a basic level, but I didn't buy this phone so I COULD use WMP with it on my X1. If I did that, then why not just buy a HTC or Samsung Pocket PC instead? I bought the X1 so I could use SE's media panel to play music... Let me give you an analogy, so maybe you can better understand my POV. Say you have both a moped and giant roomy SUV with a ton of cabin space and amenities built in like climate control and stuff. Just because you can drive the moped across country doesn't nean you should, or even be forced to when you have a more comfortably and ergonomically designed option at your disposal... Have you even tried to use WMP on the X1? It's clunky and cumbersome to say the least. It's also not very finger friendly, plus why do I want to dive 3 or 4 levels deep into a archaic sub-menu system to access a media player when one (which, might I add is featured as a selling point) is easily available and accessible on the home widget page of the phone?

I totally understand that the panels should close when you press the panel button btw (as evidenced by one of my previous post), however by the same token there is no way to MINIMIZE ANY of the panels while keeping them actively playing in the background (like I could with say my Nokia N95 or SE W850), which IMHO defeats the purpose of having a multimedia smartphone to begin with!

Some people I tell you...

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Posted by borisisinvin

On 2008-12-08 23:04:29, Peio wrote:
hi

about the remaining connection problem, download "shap's advanced config" program (google it), there's the option to disconnect after a time you decide.

it works on my diamond

Hey, thanks thanks for that. I actually tried to download this a while ago because I found that Xperia tweak didn't actually change my default browser choice after I changed it to Opera anyways... I actually downloaded the CAB and the required software needed to run it, however every time I tried to open it would tell me that the the frame net software something something that I have isn't up to date (which is the required software that I downloaded from their provided link before I started the actual software download!)... I've now uninstalled it and re-installed it about 2 times with the same results each time. Thanks anyways.

-mike

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Posted by borisisinvin

On 2008-12-08 23:51:23, Dogmann wrote:
@mike

You need to have the 3.5 NetFramework installed first to be able to run the other,i thought this was made clear in the instructions for apps that need it. First download the 3.5 Netframwork and run it then turn off and back on your X1 before installing the other program. I think that should solve the problem you are having but check XDA first as this just what i seem to remember being who it's done.

Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-12-08 22:51 ]

Hey thanks, that's actually more clear than what I saw on the julien schapman download page for the app. I actually found the app on a Google search, and not through a XDA forum. I downloaded the NetFrameWork app that it recommends and links, and then promptly installed the other software which may have been my problem to begin with, which wasn't too clear in the instructions. I also actually looked for that software in the application folder of my phone after installing it but never saw it either... Hmmm, I'll try it again using your instructions now. Though tbh I did install the Advanced Task Manager offered on the same site, and did exactly what I did above for that app and it's accompanying required software with no trouble at all.... Whatever the case thanks Marc.

-mike

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Posted by borisisinvin

ok Marc, I did just like you said but I'm still getting the error message from before... How do I even run the 3.5 NetFrameWork tbw?... After opening the download I can't even find it anywhere in my phone, either with my applications or otherwise...

-mike :/

Posted by borisisinvin

ok Marc, I did just like you said but I'm still getting the error message from before... How do I even run the 3.5 NetFrameWork btw?... After opening the download I can't even find it anywhere in my phone, or with my applications or in the file explorer... The app shows in my app folder but refuses to open.

-mike :/

Posted by bloob
Ok, here's another take on the Media Xperience Panel - it is a Today screen replacement. All Panels are actually Today screen replacements.

Once you're in the Media Xperience Panel, it presents a media-centric interface for you to access your media files and contacts (ostensibly, so you could share media files with them in some ways, whatever...)

So you start playing some music files and now you want to do something else, like maybe open Viigo and read some web feeds. You press the Start menu, fire up Viigo (great app by the way), and start reading your Wired articles. Music continues to play in the background. Everything is hunky dory.

You want to change a track or adjust volume, you press Start -> Today and fiddle with the onscreen controls (remember, no AVRCP in Media Xperience Panel!).

Heaven forbid you now that you press that X Panel button, for once you do so AND select some other panel, your music will shutdown! Your Media Xperience ends there, and you have moved into another reality.

Living with Panels means that you have a multi-faceted life, and they CANNOT overlap... at the present moment. So now, we need SE to find some way to break down the space/time barrier, fold the Panel fabric and create wormholes between Panels.

It is the last frontier... where no programmer have gone before... V'ger awaits...

Posted by WhyBe
@borisisinvin
You sure X1 is the problem ?

Posted by Malkmus
http://www.engadgetmobile.com[....]week-hopefully/#readercomments

This may explain some problems. I'm glad I canceled my order with expansys. I'd rather get it from a store where I'll have no problem returning it if it's buggy. BTW, Borisinvin's stories are really dissuading me from the purchase, but i'd like to know, is anyone else having massive bluetooth problems? Specifically for listening to music. I listen to music over bt headphones with my N95 when I jog and while sometimes it skips a bit, it's nothing as bad as what he's describing. What's the general consensus on BT performance? Specifically stereo music playback. Thanks!

Posted by WhyBe
I have the Sony DR-BT22 bluetooth stereo headphones.

I've only used the Wireless Stereo profile and not the phone headset profile.

I can skip/pause/restart tracks from the headset in WMP. I don't seem to be able to ff/rew though.

The Sony Media Panel doesn't respond at all to the bluetooth controls, though, I still get stereo playback.

I don't know what to blame for the shortcoming. I'm guessing the Sony Media Panel is the culprit.

[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-12-09 05:31 ]

Posted by l337h1um
Boris,

The fact that the Media panel stops playing when you switch panels is by design. It is not a bug. Sony Ericsson originally stated that the panels would all be active at once, but they didn't deliver on that, and maybe it was a technical limitation, or a practical decision. Whatever the case, the panels are not always active; only one is active at any one time.

Think about it: you can only have one panel running at any one time. ONE. If you choose the Media panel, start playing music, and then SWITCH TO ANOTHER PANEL, the music SHOULD stop playing!! It should not continue!! The Panel Manager is to blame, not the Media panel!

The Bluetooth problem is with the Media Panel, yes, but the music problem is not.

If you want to use the Media Panel as a separate application, then try this. You can then find the Xperia Radio and Media panel in your Programs list from the Start menu.

Posted by l337h1um
@all: to install the .NET Compact Framework 3.5:
1. First, you need to have your phone connecting and working with ActiveSync (or Windows Mobile Device Centre on Vista) on your PC.
2. Go here to download the .NET CF 3.5 installer.
3. Connect your phone to your PC, and ensure ActiveSync is active and working.
4. Run the installer. It will install the .NET CF 3.5 on your PC, and when it's almost done, it will install it on your phone as well.

If you can't use ActiveSync for whatever reason, then I may have another way to do this: the .NET CF 3.5 installer puts CABs on your PC. There's a few of them, and I don't know which one is appropriate for the X1 because I used the above method to install rather than the manual way. You can try coping the CABs to your X1 via memory card + reader, or Bluetooth. Alternatively, I can upload the CABs to my web server for you to try.

Oh, and my X1 works fine. Hangs can almost always be blamed on the apps you've installed on the phone, and if not that, then there's something wrong with the hardware.

What I suggest you do with any new smartphone, be it an X1, another WM phone, a UIQ phone, or even a S60: go looking for programs that you'll need. Then find some freeware app sites and go browsing through them, downloading any and all apps that you find interesting. Install them all, a couple at a time, and take note of any performance differences you get with the phone in general. Now, you know which apps are good and which ones will screw up your phone. Do a factory reset, and only install the apps that you know will not screw up your phone.

The paint on my silver X1 is starting to come off as well. At the top, around the speaker, the paint (or finish or whatever it is) is coming off. It still looks good underneath, just not the mix of the two where some has come off and some is still there. Underneath it's just not as shiny, but the metal is still brushed. Anyone else get this issue?

I also hate the networking and data connection configurations in WM. It's completely retarded. There's different connection thingoes that do the same thing, there's... AAGH it's HORRIBLE. It's SOOOO much better in UIQ3. I'd just like to be able to group connections, or even just tell stuff to only connect via WiFi. And how the HELL am I supposed to set up a VPN!? I also don't think it's too much to ask to be able to delete connection settings, especially when they aren't even being used.

Other than these and a couple of other tiny gripes, I love my X1. It's fantastic. I'd take this over an iPhone, N95, N96, Tube or whatever else any day.

And about the Bluetooth issues... Even if the Bluetooth on your device is stuffed for some reason, it's better for you to only be able to get some services to work like file transfer, and for it to annoyingly shut off automatically after three minutes, than to have the worst and most pathetic Bluetooth support since its introduction (I'm looking at YOU, Apple).

My advice to anyone thinking about buying an X1: It's awesome, but you need to be prepared to nurture Windows Mobile until you've customised it and configured it how you like. You can change a lot of things that you might find annoying about WM, but it takes time and patience. Lots of patience. If you'd rather have a phone that just works, then I'd advise against getting an X1 for a while and waiting to see what future firmware updates (both official and otherwise) will bring, or get something else. But if you're used to WM, or are prepared to put in a bit of effort to get it how you like, then the X1 will make an excellent phone.

[ This Message was edited by: l337h1um on 2008-12-09 06:16 ]

Posted by max_wedge

On 2008-12-08 21:37:41, borisisinvin wrote:
edit: I thought the point would be obvious? The point of disconnecting your data connection is so that it doesn't kill your battery, imagine if I actually had a working 3G network connected and running on my phone instead of JUST edge?!? Would you want that thing connected and on 24/7 with your X1? Are you currently on AT&T with your X1 using it all of the time? You know they have soft caps right, and will throttle your data speeds down to GPRS speeds if you exceed their soft cap limits?... Not to mention Your battery would be dead by mid day (I think I read you get about 6 hours of service from the phone using 3G)! Also, I don't want to excessively use my mobile internet causing Tmob to become suspicious of me... That's it in a nutshell, plus like I previously stated all of my other phones have terminated their data connection after using it for a program or application, including BOTH all of the smart AND dumb phones that I've ever owned.

Unless you are actually downloading something gprs doesn't use any power. GPRS is not a "stay alive" connection like CSD connection. When the "conection" is idle nothing is being transmitted, not even a "keep alive" polling signal. So just because the indicator says it's connected doesn't mean it's doing anything.

Are you sure yours is actually using battery power, because unless you are actually downloading something it shouldn't be. Anyway this sounds more like an operator branding issue than a generic X1/Wm issue. My sister's "3" K800 always displayed the gprs logo even when she wasn't doing anything. Yet battery use was normal and she didn't get charged any data usage other than what she actually downloaded.

Regarding the Sony Media Panel - okay I hear you, but you have to get over it.

So you can't use the panel - there are heaps of excellent media playing alternatives to choose from without having to use the Media Panel. Infact I would even suggest better options.

Posted by borisisinvin
@ whybe, maybe I am the problem after seeing my double post, that's some serious joo joo there, and all of the post related to mine after my post...

I guess no one has read any of my other post? I understand AND appreciate the fact that they close (as I stated in past post), though I wish there was a way to actively minimize them. I think we can all agree on some level that the design fundamental and execution of the "panels" is broken and unclear in it's intention, or at the very least not well thought out and executed to it's fullest potential in reality. Why did we wait almost a year (or in some cases, are some of us still waiting) for a phone with all of these problems?.... Here's the long and short of it all, the "Media Experience" panel is broken, period.

Posted by borisisinvin

On 2008-12-09 08:34:33, max_wedge wrote:
Unless you are actually downloading something gprs doesn't use any power. GPRS is not a "stay alive" connection like CSD connection. When the "conection" is idle nothing is being transmitted, not even a "keep alive" polling signal. So just because the indicator says it's connected doesn't mean it's doing anything.

Are you sure yours is actually using battery power, because unless you are actually downloading something it shouldn't be. Anyway this sounds more like an operator branding issue than a generic X1/Wm issue. My sister's "3" K800 always displayed the gprs logo even when she wasn't doing anything. Yet battery use was normal and she didn't get charged any data usage other than what she actually downloaded.

Regarding the Sony Media Panel - okay I hear you, but you have to get over it.

So you can't use the panel - there are heaps of excellent media playing alternatives to choose from without having to use the Media Panel. Infact I would even suggest better options.

@ Max Wedge. I certainly hope my connection is using up the battery power, because at the rate I'm currently going I need to charge the phone twice a day just to get by. Also my phone's Edge connection constantly turns itself on and won't terminate the connection when done. When I then check under the Connection manager to see what connections are active (because I see a little "E" above my network bars) it shows "edge" as enabled which I then have then physically terminate myself. I don't use my X1 too much, and definitely no more than I used to use my N95 through out the day. I am really surprised to see the battery take such a huge hit through out the day with what I consider to be moderate use.

I can't get over the media panel. I just spent about $750 unsubsidized on a phone (that I can't return for something else), about another $100 on accessories for it (a slip case, memory card, car charger, and screen protector), and another $40 for the missing sync in order to be able to use it with my Mac. I refuse to buy another media player when the one advertised with phone should work! I don't want anything special, I just want something functional and finger friendly without have to dig too deep into Winmob... I was under the impression that the "Media Panel Experience" was just this! My bad for taking SE at their word.

Posted by borisisinvin

On 2008-12-09 07:03:51, l337h1um wrote:
@all: to install the .NET Compact Framework 3.5:
1. First, you need to have your phone connecting and working with ActiveSync (or Windows Mobile Device Centre on Vista) on your PC.
2. Go here to download the .NET CF 3.5 installer.
3. Connect your phone to your PC, and ensure ActiveSync is active and working.
4. Run the installer. It will install the .NET CF 3.5 on your PC, and when it's almost done, it will install it on your phone as well.

If you can't use ActiveSync for whatever reason, then I may have another way to do this: the .NET CF 3.5 installer puts CABs on your PC. There's a few of them, and I don't know which one is appropriate for the X1 because I used the above method to install rather than the manual way. You can try coping the CABs to your X1 via memory card + reader, or Bluetooth. Alternatively, I can upload the CABs to my web server for you to try.

Oh, and my X1 works fine. Hangs can almost always be blamed on the apps you've installed on the phone, and if not that, then there's something wrong with the hardware.

What I suggest you do with any new smartphone, be it an X1, another WM phone, a UIQ phone, or even a S60: go looking for programs that you'll need. Then find some freeware app sites and go browsing through them, downloading any and all apps that you find interesting. Install them all, a couple at a time, and take note of any performance differences you get with the phone in general. Now, you know which apps are good and which ones will screw up your phone. Do a factory reset, and only install the apps that you know will not screw up your phone.

The paint on my silver X1 is starting to come off as well. At the top, around the speaker, the paint (or finish or whatever it is) is coming off. It still looks good underneath, just not the mix of the two where some has come off and some is still there. Underneath it's just not as shiny, but the metal is still brushed. Anyone else get this issue?

I also hate the networking and data connection configurations in WM. It's completely retarded. There's different connection thingoes that do the same thing, there's... AAGH it's HORRIBLE. It's SOOOO much better in UIQ3. I'd just like to be able to group connections, or even just tell stuff to only connect via WiFi. And how the HELL am I supposed to set up a VPN!? I also don't think it's too much to ask to be able to delete connection settings, especially when they aren't even being used.

Other than these and a couple of other tiny gripes, I love my X1. It's fantastic. I'd take this over an iPhone, N95, N96, Tube or whatever else any day.

And about the Bluetooth issues... Even if the Bluetooth on your device is stuffed for some reason, it's better for you to only be able to get some services to work like file transfer, and for it to annoyingly shut off automatically after three minutes, than to have the worst and most pathetic Bluetooth support since its introduction (I'm looking at YOU, Apple).

My advice to anyone thinking about buying an X1: It's awesome, but you need to be prepared to nurture Windows Mobile until you've customised it and configured it how you like. You can change a lot of things that you might find annoying about WM, but it takes time and patience. Lots of patience. If you'd rather have a phone that just works, then I'd advise against getting an X1 for a while and waiting to see what future firmware updates (both official and otherwise) will bring, or get something else. But if you're used to WM, or are prepared to put in a bit of effort to get it how you like, then the X1 will make an excellent phone.

[ This Message was edited by: l337h1um on 2008-12-09 06:16 ]

Great advice all around, though tbh I haven't really installed too many apps like I mentioned before. I only need a few things on my phone, and most come stock. I've actually owned a few smart phones in my time, just never a Windows Mobile Smartphone btw... I never thought it would be THIS bad. I can't wait to go back to anything Symbian.

About your instructions to download .NET CF 3.5, what do you do if you have a Mac? I also don't have Windows installed on my Mac, either using parallels or Vmfusion just to be clear, so the whole PC route with Active Sync thing is pretty much useless for me. I actually hit the link to .NET CF 3.5 provided on Julien Schapman's download page and opened the link in my phone like the instructions on Microsoft's page said, and well nothing.... I've been reading around online, but mostly on XDA and I think that I may have to alter the registry in order to get it to change? If that's the case forget it!

About your paint peeling, that sucks! So far, thank god (knock on wood) I haven't had any hardware issues. I don't know if I could handle that on top of everything else. Thanks for the help anyways!

-mike

Posted by borisisinvin
p.s. oh btw I forgot to mention that one of the main reason's why I've yet to get a Apple iPhone is because of the gimped Bluetooth support, so what gives with this release's bluetooth implementation SE?...

Posted by rustam07
Xperia X1 support Android platform !!!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=456595

Posted by WhyBe

On 2008-12-09 11:56:20, rustam07 wrote:
Xperia X1 support Android platform !!!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=456595

Why do people install stuff that doesn't even function properly? Is this a sport or something

I actually want to USE my phone day-to-day, not repair, modify and tweak it.

Posted by l337h1um

On 2008-12-09 09:06:58, borisisinvin wrote:
About your instructions to download .NET CF 3.5, what do you do if you have a Mac?

if you... if you have a Mac? oh, in that case, well... I think you'll need to sit down for this... you, well you need to GO AND BUY A REAL COMPUTER.

I joke, I joke. I can upload the CABs to my web server for you to try, but other than that I don't know. You might need to find a fried with a ~~real computer~~ Windows machine.

Posted by dolphinhl
hi, I am from Singapore. Just got my X1 yesterday. Wooohoo!!! =D

Can anyone help pls .......

How do i send a text msg to MULTIPLE receipients??

Been trying to figure it out the whole day! =(

Posted by Killmaster9

On 2008-12-09 13:28:23, l337h1um wrote:

On 2008-12-09 09:06:58, borisisinvin wrote:
About your instructions to download .NET CF 3.5, what do you do if you have a Mac?

if you... if you have a Mac? oh, in that case, well... I think you'll need to sit down for this... you, well you need to GO AND BUY A REAL COMPUTER.

I joke, I joke. I can upload the CABs to my web server for you to try, but other than that I don't know. You might need to find a fried with a ~~real computer~~ Windows machine.

Hehe, that was funny....

Posted by bloob

On 2008-12-09 13:45:36, dolphinhl wrote:
hi, I am from Singapore. Just got my X1 yesterday. Wooohoo!!! =D

Can anyone help pls .......

How do i send a text msg to MULTIPLE receipients??

Been trying to figure it out the whole day! =(

Greetings from a fellow Singaporean as well

Windows Mobile does not have a option to send SMS to a group. You will need to add each recipient to the message in the 'To:' field manually. When you send the message, each recipient becomes a seperate conversation.

Posted by max_wedge

On 2008-12-09 09:16:51, borisisinvin wrote:
p.s. oh btw I forgot to mention that one of the main reason's why I've yet to get a Apple iPhone is because of the gimped Bluetooth support, so what gives with this release's bluetooth implementation SE?...

I don't know what's better, SE's incompetence, or Apple's arrogance at denying their users real bluetooth functionality. tbh honest I'd rather fumble through a Winmo phone eventually tweaking everything the way I like, than give even an ounce of my cash to support Apple's proprietary empire...

Get the cab for .net, that can be installed by the device. As to finger friendly media player, I don't think their is any third party freeware yet, though their is TCMP, which is an excellent freeware player with better media support than WMP or SE media player. If you wanna try it on the X1, pm me your email addy and I'll send it to you.

Posted by WhyBe

On 2008-12-09 13:28:23, l337h1um wrote:

On 2008-12-09 09:06:58, borisisinvin wrote:
About your instructions to download .NET CF 3.5, what do you do if you have a Mac?

if you... if you have a Mac? oh, in that case, well... I think you'll need to sit down for this... you, well you need to GO AND BUY A REAL COMPUTER.

I joke, I joke. I can upload the CABs to my web server for you to try, but other than that I don't know. You might need to find a fried with a ~~real computer~~ Windows machine.

I was thinking the SAME thing, but, was scared to start one of those PC vs MAC debates.

Posted by mattiL
Perhaps the small CAB from this site can help you:

http://www.modaco.com/content[....]-5-without-upgrading-your-rom/

No need to trade in your Mac for a winblows can.

Linux man myself (and Mac AND windows and....)

Posted by doministry
Guys,
that may sound a bit silly,
but all of you X1 users - would you advice to buy it?
Is it superb

Posted by janke1
I would say not the winmobil userinterface distroy it .Its just the nice screen nice to waths movies on..i think tuchscreen is fun in the begining but in everydayuse ordinary slider is the better choise.I have going back to my old nokia 6110 navigator ,,s60 for me annyway is a lot better userinterface ...

[ This Message was edited by: janke1 on 2008-12-09 19:44 ]

Posted by borisisinvin
Ok, ok, ha ha. Yes, I use a mac, are we done yet? Did we get out all of our little giggles out of us yet?...

I'm actually an artist and animator and NEED, and love my Mac. I haven't used a Windows based machine in about 5 years time and like it that way. Anyways, back on topic, it's been a nightmare so far using this phone. I had what I believed to be very reasonable expectations about this phone coming into it. The learning curve has been kind of high I'll admit, and with the exception of adding certain bits of software (I can't install EXE files with out a PC!

) I haven't really had any trouble transferring any software, contacts, calendar appointments, and music thanks to the missing sync for Macs. I just really want to use MY phone the way I want to, and until Apple allows people who buy their phone to do just that, I'll be sticking to something Symbian or Windows Mobile OS based (for now anyways on that last one)!

Soooo I've actually been able to download the MSI file for .NET CF 3.5 on my phone, however it won't open and I don't know what to do with it now to get the Advanced Configuration Tool running? Anyone?

-thanks,
mike

Posted by WhyBe
.EXE files and .MSI files are run from a windows PC that is Active Sync'ed to your Windows Mobile device.

Only CAB files do you install from the X1 itself.

You would be doing yourself a favor by getting one of the Windows emulators for your Mac...so it can be turned back into a PC

[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-12-09 20:06 ]

Posted by Tigershark42

On 2008-12-09 20:29:45, doministry wrote:
Guys,
that may sound a bit silly,
but all of you X1 users - would you advice to buy it?
Is it superb

Im still wondering the same thing. It looks incredible. But the software, as long as its WM6.1, is an epic fail for daily use. Okay as a novelty IMO, but I think other software platforms are so much more practical. Its too much of a compromise for so much money IMO. Perhaps if they can get a better version of WM running on it, then it may be very worthwhile.

Posted by borisisinvin

On 2008-12-09 19:39:45, mattiL wrote:
Perhaps the small CAB from this site can help you:

http://www.modaco.com/content[....]-5-without-upgrading-your-rom/

No need to trade in your Mac for a winblows can.

Linux man myself (and Mac AND windows and....)

Thanks! That was just what I needed, it worked like a charm!

Does anyone know how to make it so Opera is the default browser on the X1. I have the Xperia tweak downloaded and have selected the option in the app, however it still opens IE when I go to the google panel and stuff... I even soft reset the phone after doing this in Xperia tweak...

Also does anyone know how to enable phone vibrations when using the touch screen? Neither the Advanced Configuration tool nor the Xperia tweak app support this. Is it even possible? Thanks, I just miss the tactile feel of keys and was really curious about this...

Posted by s32bauer
Hi,
Can someone PLEASE try to help, as I've been trying for days and can't get this right.

I have lots of vids that I want to play on my X1, they are all in various formats and I want to convert them to whatever format will play in Media Player. No matter how much I try, the vids are either rubbish quality or very jerky.

I know that lots of people have suggested Coreplayer and other various players, but I would really rather use Media Player. I've seen various vids online of vids playing on Media Player and they have been great quality and no lagging or anything, but for the life of me I can't find out what program or settings were used.

I've been told to convert files to MP4's within certain programs and that they will still play in Media Player, however my phone doesn't pick these up in file explorer when I convert to MP4.

Does anyone know of a program and the exact settings to give good quality, fast playback of video files within Media Player mobile?

Any help would be really great.

Andy

Posted by philosophy72
Anyone tried this place?

http://www.addictedtophones.c[....]4975452511&OVKWID=302757755011

Posted by WhyBe

On 2008-12-09 22:43:22, s32bauer wrote:
Hi,
Can someone PLEASE try to help, as I've been trying for days and can't get this right.

I have lots of vids that I want to play on my X1, they are all in various formats and I want to convert them to whatever format will play in Media Player. No matter how much I try, the vids are either rubbish quality or very jerky.

I know that lots of people have suggested Coreplayer and other various players, but I would really rather use Media Player. I've seen various vids online of vids playing on Media Player and they have been great quality and no lagging or anything, but for the life of me I can't find out what program or settings were used.

I've been told to convert files to MP4's within certain programs and that they will still play in Media Player, however my phone doesn't pick these up in file explorer when I convert to MP4.

Does anyone know of a program and the exact settings to give good quality, fast playback of video files within Media Player mobile?

Any help would be really great.

Andy

.mp4's recorded encoded at 384kps VGA 30fps are working for me using Sony Vegas 7.0. The Bond trailer .mp4 is 480x260 @ 24fps. I've converted a Little Rascals DVD to VGA 30fps 384kbps using Prism Video Convertor. All have worked for me.

I play them all back in the Sony Media Experience panel.

Posted by WhyBe

On 2008-12-09 22:58:51, philosophy72 wrote:
Anyone tried this place?

http://www.addictedtophones.c[....]4975452511&OVKWID=302757755011

I paid $634 at Expansys-USA (scroll down).

[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-12-09 22:23 ]