Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 discussion

On 2008-11-29 08:01:32, Malkmus wrote:

borisisinvin, I'm confused. I went to the SonyStyle store at the Topanga mall today based on what you wrote, but when I arrived there to look at the display model to try it out like you did they said the display model was in a rotating glass cabinet that couldn't be removed, and that it was a dummy model anyway (which it was, it had the fake screen display sticker on it). I asked if I could at least hold it to open the keyboard and try the keys and the girl said since it was a dummy model it didn't even open and therefore didn't take it out for me. Needless to say I was a bit irked at driving to the Topanga mall from Sherman Oaks on Black Friday for nothing. Was there a working display model when you went, or did you just handle the dummy model which can't open or be turned on?

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On 2008-11-29 12:23:22, d-southwest wrote:
Up to how many radiostations the x1 support?

Peace

On 2008-11-29 19:12:00, borisisinvin wrote:


Thanks for the explanation, I'm upset at the situation, not you, BTW. I do feel like the girl that pointed me to the dummy model had no idea what she was talking about anyway. When I first asked her if there was a display model she said they had nothing and when I replied that I'd heard there was one she said they hadn't received them yet. Then another employee overheard us and told her where the dummy model was, which she wasn't even aware of. Maybe there was demo model somewhere there, but I took her word for it, I should have snooped around. Oh well, I do live walking distance from Best Buy, so maybe they'll have one there soon.

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Posted by panda986
After about a month's use. My X1 (Silver) recently started to switches off suddenly when I close the slider too quickly... this is a random occurences but doesn't happen if it is closed in a slow and controlled way

My intuition tells me its related to the battery and after reading online and did some fiddling around with the battery and the cover (no bending of the tabs yet but will consider) it seems to have reduced the occurence but happening once in a while is still not great! Does anyone know of a permanent fix? or is it time to call in the warranty and let them repair (if they can)/replace (if they can't fix)

Apart from that, I am really happy with the X1

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Posted by JiSm


I couldt see a reply to this so...

Go into settings and then the connections tab. Open "beam" and enable receive all incomming beams.

That'll do it.

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Posted by d-southwest



Thats real disappointment, but thanks for answering it for me

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Posted by louod
Hey guys,on hofo & xda there's talk about an xperia recall due to the phone cracks and software glitches. Hope SE fixes the problems soon

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Posted by pinguino1


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link?
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Posted by netnerd
funny how those that got X1a in their hand got no cracks, and those that havnt release got cracks! haha

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Posted by babis
Hello, I am ready to buy XPERIA X1.

The only concern I have is as follows:

Is the typical SonyEricsson LAG present on this phone?

I mean with all SE phones there is a delay from the time I press a button, till the command gets executed. For example with the K850, I press the center menu button very fast for 4-5 times, in order to create new text message, and I am sitting back and waiting/seeing the menus open slowly. I believe this is inherited to SE from good old Ericsson phones..

A serious reply would be appreciated.

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Posted by WhyBe
^^^ Well, Windows Mobile certainly won't let you down in the X1

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Posted by 9679
Evening people,

2 things,

1 - does anyone know how to delete an email account once created - i've been through all the menus and just can't see an option.?

2 - how can you setup an account manually without it automatically downloading the settings when it recognises the email provider.? the help box says that there is a tick box to disable the automatic provider search it doesn't appear.

thanks for your assistance .

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Posted by masseur
1. to delete an account, go to start -> messaging, select the account and click menu -> delete
if you're already viewing messages in one of your email accounts choose menu -> tools -> options, then click and hold on the account you want to delete until a popup menu appears, then click delete

2. when I create an account it asks for username and password and then on the 2nd screen it offers "try to get e-mail settings automatically from the internet" and its automatically ticked. If I untick that then its all manual from thereon in

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Posted by 9679
ok thanks, I have managed to delete the mail account. however I do not get to see the tick box for the manual settings.. it just comes up with - settings found for vodafone.net. the only time I get to see that check box is if I enter a random provider that is not 'stored' on the phone, but by clicking next it automatically saves that provider as your email address before you can untick the box. hope you get what I mean..

thanks.

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Posted by babis


OK I did extensive testing yesterday at Xperia X1 and HTC Touch HD. I can say that I haven't found any lag and in terms of usability X1 is way better of the HTC. I am going to buy it today

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Posted by Killmaster9
Hmm...sell my X1 and get Nokia N97. That's the question??

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Posted by mkouk


hmmm with the N97 planned to be released in the second half of 2009 i'd say my X1 should do fine for now!

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Posted by borisisinvin
Like mentioned above, everyone should seriously look over the N97 if you're in the market for a X1, and are not in a rush to get one. My X1 unfortunately comes in the mail today, and had I known about this monster I may have waited, maybe, though probably not tbh....

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Posted by WhyBe
I don't know if I could ever do the plasticy thing again since owning my X1.

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Posted by Tigershark42
I dont get it, what is so great about the N97? The X1 trumps it in quite a number of ways. I suppose the only reason to get it overthe X1 would be for S60 over WM. But given that the prices will be about the same, theres clearly no way Id choose that rubbish over an X1. I mean COME ON!!! N*kia designers cant draw to save their lives!!! Its clearly just a mix of X1, iphone and Tytn II, but with no unique styling of its own. But noone will look at X1 and tell you its not unique. Besides, X1 also manages to be a good deal smaller than the silly gender-confused (am I, or am I not a PDA?) N97.

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Posted by mrmilo69
Without seeing the platform in action i can't comment on it so i don't know if i could be won over there. I'm a first time user of WM but i genuinely love it. The N97 looks monstrous unfortunately, absolutely ghastly. The specs are impressive, the memory perhaps a bit excessive but it seems like a well rounded machine, i hope SE actually challenge this new phone with something exceptional unlike their challenge against the N95. A few months down the line if i saw the N97 in black with a few aesthetic tweaks i could change my mind though!

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Posted by se_dude
The XPERIA looks and feels like a premium device irrespective of what is in the market. The N97 will be in the market in Q2 2009 and as reported by many websites, SE will undergo serious cost cutting in the 1st Q of 2009 as a result of which, their phones wil come down to a more competitive price. If you are willing to wait, then do so, but i know people who have waited and then something else strikes their mind and they keep waiting again.

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Posted by se_dude
Extremely positive review we have here. Well done SE.

http://www.phonearena.com/htm[....]a-X1-Review-review-r_2072.html

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Posted by Malkmus


Okay, I'll bite. I think it's pretty extreme to call the N97 rubbish. As someone who plans on buying the X1 within the next few weeks, I have to say I'll probably be getting it as a placeholder until the N97 comes out. Not sure how the X1 "trumps the N97 in a number of ways"...
As far as I can tell the X1 only has two things on the N97: sleeker design and higher resolution screen. Here are the reasons why I'll most likely switch to the N97 from the X1 when it comes out:

5mp camera without crippled video for Americans, like the QVGA video the X1a has.

Nokia Nseries phones have always boasted VERY loud speakers, great for handsfree calling or music/radio. I've read several reviews and opinions that the X1 speaker is too low. In California, where driving while talking on the phone is illegal, the handsfree is a must, and I don't like bluetooth headsets.

Larger 3.5 inch screen 16million colors. Another often-mentioned setback of the X1 is its small screen and tiny font size, especially for menus. Also,only 65 thousand colors.

Dual LED flash vs X1's "photolight"

GPS Digital compass

Proximity sensor. The X1 does not. This turns the screen off when it senses it's close to your face when making a call, therfore saving batter life.

32gb included memory plus expandable slot for up to 48gb. X1 comes with virtually no storage space out of the box and current SD cards are mostly 16gb.

The tilting screen is subjective, but I like the idea that I can set the N97 in front of me, say in an airplane, and watch movies like a mini laptop. The X1 lays flat, except a slight curve, so you'd need to prop it up against something.

Accelerometer. The X1 has none.

TV out. The X1 has none.

More space between the keys on the QWERTY keypad, and (this is just my own speculation) probably more responsive keypad buttons. The X1 has been criticized a lot for the keypad buttons being too "soft". If the N97 is the same as its Nokia QWERTY brethren E90 or E71 this shouldn't be a problem.

Like I said, I plan on getting the X1, but will likely go for the N97 eventually based on the above facts. And Tigershark, please don't look at this as a an attack on you, you asked what's so great about the N97 and I'm just answering.



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Posted by Malkmus


Here is the N97 in black:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgOiw8Z7TX8&feature=related

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Posted by se_dude
Make it more RAM for the X1 with dedicated graphics Ram and also a better proccy and full metal finish. Also, it isnt the N97 competitor either, we will see more in the upcoming months,esp in MWC. We would obviously expect a phone, which has been announced 10 months after the X1 to have btter specs.

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Posted by Angello
hehe N97 is one of the best phones from nokia next year. the X1 is not

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Posted by se_dude
Angello please, something about the next high end device by SE.

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Posted by Dogmann
@all,

Some of you really seem to have missed the point of what this device is targeted at, it is a N Series device not a E series device it is not the E90 replacement that is still to come and will build on the N97 specs.

I much prefer a true widescreen larger screen and will reserve comment on the lower resolution until i actually see it in action. It just doesn't need as much Ram or as fast a processor as the X1 because it's not WM it's just that simple WM has always needed more processor and Ram that's nothing new and to pretend different is well silly.

The N97 from Nokia's own blurb tells you it's aimed at the Internet Social Networking and entertainment market of course it will still run most if not all Business apps but it's not an E series Business class device.

The one thing it has managed to do though is with it's Web Runtime Widgets put active Widgets on the Home screen that run in real time. Just like SE said their panels would do but as yet have failed to deliver.

Enjoy your X1's as the N97 won't be out till some time in the first half of next year and wait and see what the E90 replacement offers as IMO that will build on the N97's specs and improve on them greatly.

Marc

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Posted by Tigershark42
@ Malkmus,

not at all, in fact you actually raised some good points, some of which I hadn't thought of before. But I maintain what I said. Ok ok, 'rubbish' was abit over the top, but that was there mainly just to silence everyone who suddenly thought so much more of the N97 than the X1, and also because I genuinely do think its better in any case. I agree the N97 has a few more peripheral features, like a tv out, and a compass, for some reason (why, when you have google maps? I dont know) and a proximity sensor, but all those are things I for one could very easily live without (in fact, it makes me question whether I would want to pay more to have a device with these features at all).

But what really suprises me is the way they call it the best/smallest mobile computer currently available. I'm sorry, but its not just the X1 its challenging there. With that statement its trying to push aside the entire Winmo camp, and that is just ridiculous. With the likes of HTC Touch Diamond, HTC Touch Pro, HTC Touch HD and the Xperia X1 (and possibly even the HTC Tytn II), N97 is being pitted in a battle it just cant and wont win. All the above mentioned devices are absolute titans which will trump the N97 on not only features and capabilites, but sheer computing power (processing, RAM, document handling, email handling, etc). So it really doesn't make much sense to me. They probably shouldve made it winmo if they wanted to really make that claim.

The N97 screen (for me anyway) doesnt come close to that of the X1. Put them side by side and the x1 will put the N97 to shame there, because most people wont notice the different number of colours, but will definately notice the huge difference in resolution. Another thing I wanted to mention was: Im not convinced by the sliding mechanism it uses (where it automatically tilts the screen up). The angle looks like it is abit too much. This is not like the HTC Tytn II, where you could angle it the way you wanted. The 'one slant fits all' approach adopted there seems a pretty presumptuous design decision to me. Sounds like something which would initially be a great novelty, but then would get pretty annoying.

I dont want to get into software, but the X1 has: Opera 9.5, Panels UI, SPB shell (as a panel), Facebook (as a panel), Google (as a panel), MSN (as a panel), all as standard fare. Then you can get flash lite 3, core player, etc etc etc. To me S60 touch (with there being no difference in the touch which WM has used for years) is therefore beaten, but to each his own there. The accelerometer issue is where the X1 falls flat, as well as the speaker (granted). X1 wins again on battery life, N-series has always lost to SE there , and finally, even with looks aside, there is the issue of build quality. it would take much longer to break an X1 than to break that N*kia. the X1 will survive more use with less build issues. Being made of metal isnt only an aesthetic choice.



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Posted by WhyBe
I think the greatest deciding factor between smartphones should be the available software. We'll have to see how things work out software-wise for the N97. I think:

-more useful panels
-WVGA WinMo software
-a ROM update from SE
-PlayNow service
-WinMo 6.5
(in other words, a finished X1 )

will keep X1 a strong competitor well into 2009. The N97 will be starting from ground zero with touch software.

@Dogmann
I don't see why Nokia would release a successor to the E90. It seems like the E90 has been absorbed into the N97. What features would an E90 successor bring ? Has one been announced ?

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Posted by mrmilo69
I watched the black N97 video, 3 things i didn't like or wasn't impressed with. The end of the sliding motion looked clunky, and the start screen was nice but providing the panels come further in the months leading up to the launch i'd be happy with those, and i can't stand the camera shutter! It does look a lot nicer black though, the proximity sensor is a nice feature but not something i need or would miss and neither is an accelerometer but it does give the impression of a more well rounded device.

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Posted by netnerd
some people will buy anything from nokia! i bet you people are all over it with Nokia N98 with 480x240 resolutions! just like Nokia N97 with that garbage 640x360 resolutions!

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Posted by Tsepz_GP
Netnerd
Im assuming you have used a N97 since you are already saying its screen is rubbish. Please tell me how your experience was with this device? Thanx.

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Posted by Dogmann
@netnerd


Some people will buy anything from SE! and prior to release claim it's going to be the best which doesn't make it true either.

Anyone want to remember the P990 and all the UIQ3 devices on release? How about the best 5 megapixel camera phone the K850 also winner of most stable firmware on release and for the next year NOT and of course there's more for the list if needed.

Oh yes and of course now the X1 with the highly plugged Active Panels that aren't, well not yet anyway. Plus all the basic tweaks and fixes that seem to have been needed straight out the box. That haven't even come from SE but great users and developers of the WM community.

Your right the X1's screen is very good it's nice and bright and clear and is 800x480 just such a shame it's to narrow.

@WhyBe

Simple this is an N Series device and is not a business first device, it can of course handle Business type apps. This is also not a flagship E series device and that is what the E90 replacement will be, not to long now but wait and see what that delivers. As despite what you were so happy to say even now so long after release the E90 is still king of the smart phones and the only thing that stops me buying one again is the knowledge it's replacement is coming soon.

Marc

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Posted by C905
Both the N97 and X1 have their up- and downsides. Personally I don't know which to buy, because the X1 looks better (not that n97 doesn't look good) and it has a better resolution.
N97 has a lot bigger screen and a 5MP camera and also a better OS, for me, that is I'd rather not like to use the stylus, really !

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Posted by mattiL
Don't say the P990 is/was bad, I just loved it.
Far better than P800 and P910.

I just got the X1 because it looked nice (although i feared having to use winmo slightly.....).

Still miss my P990 a little, especially the one handed dialling. ( it's in my bag right next to me now as an X1 backup, who trusts windows ?)

And where's the scroll wheel?? aiii caramba!

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Posted by Osmano


Well it should be easy....X1 is out....N97 isn't out until Q2 2009.

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Posted by C905

well... Yes

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Posted by Jabe


Me, too. just sold mine today...there weren't exactly tears, but i didn't feel that happy when i posted it to the new owner. I felt the same when I sold my p900 for p990 two years ago.

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Posted by Residentevil
The PXX0 series was just a phone that even with its limitations had its special followers.

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Posted by nycdemons
It's always a bit sad when you sell not just a phone, but anything that's been with you for a while and you've taken a liking to it.

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Posted by WhyBe
^^^ Yeah, I miss my Grandma

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Posted by Hobbs
lol

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Posted by Residentevil
Did you sell her too?

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Posted by Residentevil
Back to the thread. Is that real?
http://www.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=3515754


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Posted by Malkmus


NO IT'S NOT REAL!!!!

PRICE IS WAY TOO LOW
CASH ON DELIVERY IS PAYMENT METHOD
CUSTOMER FEEDBACK IS 0%

AVOID AT ALL COSTS. IT'S A SCAM!!!!

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