Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 discussion

Posted by pinguino1

On 2008-11-08 08:34:41, masseur wrote:
@pinguino2,

3. Not sure what you mean by "look at your box". I checked the box and everywhere on it, it says X1 and not X1i. This includes the label which also lists all the frequencies of 850/900/1800/1900 & UMTS EU1/US2/EU8 (see pic below)

I guess as always, time will tell

Unless I'm very much mistaken...

I'm more convinced now of a USA diffeente version You are right they might call it anything they want, but the thing is that it will differ and can no be interchaged (for 3G)

2 more points:

1- The picture of your box has UMTS I/II/VIII that is 900/1900/2100
2- The USA SE specs ONLY say tri-band UMTS.

Then, the USA MUST be 850/1900/2100 and MUST have a CPU without VGA 30 fps.

So even if they call it X1 it is a different working phone, so X1a is logical.

(well, SE is not doing many logical tings lately)

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Posted by gauravsali
Do we get mobile stand like p1 with x1?

Posted by Tigershark42
Finally, we are starting to see some really useful panels surface. If we can see a relatively bug free, fully working (including landscape) TF3D panel, then X1 is the undisputed WM King in my book. Perhaps another slideshow panel, but one with a gallery as smooth as that on the iphone, or a panel which is an upscaled version of the A200 platform (Now THAT would be the best of both worlds). I really hope SE provide WM 6.5 as an update; there are bound to be more changes by the time that arrives.

Posted by netnerd
can some1 take a picture of X1 in silver? i want to know if the phone is shiny or not. i preordered Silver, freaking clove sent me black! WTF!

[ This Message was edited by: netnerd on 2008-11-08 15:08 ]

Posted by masseur
I saw your post(s) in other forums

anyway, here's a good pic that Mizzle took

Here's X1

Posted by netnerd
silver, that' a man's phone! black is so boring! haha
once the USA X1 is out, i going to get silver and sell my black X1i

Posted by tai020381
...How come the words look farking small on my screen... btw I'm using my new X1 to send this message... screen really looks damn small...

Posted by NightBlade

On 2008-11-08 16:55:27, tai020381 wrote:
...How come the words look farking small on my screen... btw I'm using my new X1 to send this message... screen really looks damn small...

Probably because of the high resolution.

Posted by Mizzle
I wouldn't call this small

It's roughly the same size as the text on any other phone.

Posted by Dogmann
@Mizzle

Well that's hardly life size now is it and it was not only one of the things that concerned me before and after purchase but also something mentioned but plenty of other users to. It's OK on the main screens but once you go into apps or menus the text size really is small IMO and others now this may not bother all users but many are not happy about it.

On the other hand i thought it was limitation of WM but in the Videos i have seen of the Touch HD the text is quite a bit larger just waiting to see one in the flesh to be able to judge it properly.

Now try telling me and those of us that think it's to small in this real life picture it isn't? The other thing some us were not happy with is although wide it's very narrow to so once in Opera doesn't display a lot of information once zoomed in to reasonable readable size. Once again this may not be important or a problem for many but it certainly is for some

Marc

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Posted by Tigershark42
Well it just depends on what you like really. In SE's standard phones the text size is about double what I would like it to be. I would much prefer having more on the screen and having alot less scrolling to do. To each his own. Hey Miz, hows the review coming along? >D BTW, does anyone know what the SAR value is for X1? I asked a few pages back but noone answered. Thanks.

[ This Message was edited by: Tigershark42 on 2008-11-08 16:54 ]

Posted by frank2345babies
to add to the earlier argument all throughout my x1i in product info etc the handset is referred to as x1i not only x1 and on a side note o am new to windows mobile from s60 (although keeping n95 just incase) can any1 give me the lowdown on essential apps i mostly use the phone for multimedia purposes . thanks

Posted by molecule
To all the X1i users do you have to use the keypad or the vitrual keypad is good enough?
I mean if i am driving or something and having a SMS chat i dont want o keep sliding the phone all the time to reply or something like that.

Also guys how many have got your phone hanging? It seems to be a reurring trouble in Windows OS.

Posted by Jah

On 2008-11-08 18:32:12, molecule wrote:
To all the X1i users do you have to use the keypad or the vitrual keypad is good enough?
I mean if i am driving or something and having a SMS chat i dont want o keep sliding the phone all the time to reply or something like that.

Also guys how many have got your phone hanging? It seems to be a reurring trouble in Windows OS.

There an option in Settings to enlarge the keys of the virtual keyboard and I find that is okay if you select keys with the back of a finger nail. You can also get the .cab for the HTC Touch Pro keyboard from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441439

Posted by SE-Naz
How would I edit the reg on the X1, as I want to unlock one of the panels and change it for another one...

Cheers

ENJOY

Posted by norti

On 2008-11-08 17:03:21, Mizzle wrote:
I wouldn't call this small

It's roughly the same size as the text on any other phone.

I think this font is too big for me, if there's a tweak I will definitely change it to smaller dpi. I know it's not good for older people but I have still sharp eyes

If you need larger fonts buy a nokia, either one LOL

Posted by jason85
phoning and txting, is there no hotkey to get a virtual keypad/number pad up to dial numbers?

do u have to go to start menu then phone or messaging to do that?

Posted by tai020381
My definition of small size on my page when opening on opera browser is that it squeezed ALL of the whole of Yahoo width into my phone screen when I opened my keypad for typing... Thats Darn small, but quite unique and cute, just like a REALLY SMALL UMPC xD. Then I realised tat you can make the screen and words bigger by double tapping on the screen, which now expands to the size of about what the fonts masseur posted ^^

Posted by tai020381

On 2008-11-08 20:43:27, jason85 wrote:
phoning and txting, is there no hotkey to get a virtual keypad/number pad up to dial numbers?

do u have to go to start menu then phone or messaging to do that?

There is virtual keypad to dial your numbers, just like iphone. Also, you can also bring up the virtual keyboard to "type" with your stylus lolz. (I would not recommed the latter method, though there is one...)

Posted by iva_se

Windows Live Panel
The Windows Live Panel gives you easy access to the Live Services you know and love from the PC - Messenger, Hotmail, Search and Space - now at your fingertips

http://www.sonyericsson.com/d[....]/WindowsLiveNorge_panel_EN.cab

please any1 post screenshots

Posted by masseur
here you go...

Posted by Jah

On 2008-11-08 20:43:27, jason85 wrote:
phoning and txting, is there no hotkey to get a virtual keypad/number pad up to dial numbers?

do u have to go to start menu then phone or messaging to do that?

Just press the handset key, you get a dial pad, contacts and while on a call you can take notes

Posted by mobman

The virtual keypad is absolutely useless if your not using a stylus....

fortunately the selection of HTC touch HD virtual keypads are excellent and available to download!

@masseur and others

I found an "i" hidden in the xperia software. Doesn't necessarily mean there will be an "a" version tho...

Posted by islandprd

On 2008-11-08 06:21:56, NimmyxHuynh wrote:

Also, how do I add panels to my X1?
Do I just copy the .rar file onto the X1 and extract it there or do I make a folder onto the X1 and then extract the file?

Sorry if these are noob questions.

Download to your pc or direct from X1. Use ms sync to transfer to x1. Click on the prog on X1 it will intall itself.

How to find it after installation? Go to Xpanel. Use stylus to click on the right bottom button (panel setting). Click on the empty space or panel you want to replace. It will go to mid than click again to change or add. It will give list of panels. Choose the one desired then ok. You should get a new panel.

[ This Message was edited by: islandprd on 2008-11-09 02:03 ]

Posted by NimmyxHuynh
Hey guys,
I downloaded the new Windows Live panel but it doesn't show on my panels list. What can I do to make it appear or do I have to re-download it again?

oh, I downloaded the file to my storage card (if that helps).

[ This Message was edited by: NimmyxHuynh on 2008-11-09 07:33 ]

Posted by mario2004
Kasperky or Symantec ? Which Windows Mobile antivirus will you recommand?

Posted by norti

On 2008-11-09 08:41:57, mario2004 wrote:
Kasperky or Symantec ? Which Windows Mobile antivirus will you recommand?

None (but there is the ESET Mobile too xD). There is NO virus for WM, don't waste space and money for antivirus software.

Posted by Mizzle
Marc,
Well duh, did you even take time to notice that you can actually change the text size? I guess not taking those pictures in consideration.

Here is the smallest text size compared to the biggest. There are three other sizes in between.

Either way the only people who will have a problem with its text size, regardless of how small or large it is, are people with bad eye sight. My eye sight isn't that good tbh, but even without my contacts on I can still read the text on the display.

Tigershark42,
It's coming along!

It'll be significantly larger than anything else on USEB. The review is about 7,000 words right now with well over 200 pictures, screenshots, etc.

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Posted by Dogmann
@Mizzle

Yes of course i knew the text size could be changed as i specifically asked it about before the X1 was even launched and it was the first thing i changed on the X1. I expressed my concern about text size from Videos and pictures i had seen and had been told i could change it which i did but it really didn't make anywhere near enough difference for me. Again your picture really doesn't prove anything you don't need a screen shot that exaggerates how it looks take a still picture of how it looks on the screen and not in macro mode either take it as if it's i your hand being used at the same distance you would be if using it. Or do you hold it just 3" from your face?

Now although i am much older than you i still have perfect eye sight no need for contacts or glasses thankfully. Now if i was the only person that had found text size to be an issue that would be one thing but that is far from being the truth. As plenty of other users are also less than happy with it and have said so.

But once again as is said earlier it may not bother all users and if not fine enjoy the X1 but it does seem to be a problem for quite a few and to suggest this

" Either way the only people who will have a problem with its text size, regardless of how small or large it is, are people with bad eye sight."

That is a joke right? you couldn't possibly believe that could you? as it is complete and utter rubbish as i said i have perfect eyesight and it annoyed the hell out of me. Have you gone round and asked everyone else that it's a problem for if they wear glasses? No i thought not.. It's all to do with personal preferences and just because it's fine for you doesn't mean it has to be or will be for everyone else does it? But suggesting anyone that finds it a problem has bad eyesight really that's just so funny.

Once more i really just can't understand why some feel the need to defend every aspect of a device as though it's a personal insult against them. There will never be a device that is perfect for all and just because a device doesn't suit some one doesn't make it a bad or useless device either just not right for them is all. But if you look around the Forums there are lots of people that love their X1's but there are also those that haven't and have either returned or Sold them. Just check out E-Bay and you will see how many of these in short supply X1's are for sale and they are not all branded versions either.

But when it comes to the issue of text size or even choice of fonts this is something that Blackberry with the Bold has really excelled themselves with 12 fonts and 8 sizes and to put it simply choice is good.

Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-11-09 10:15 ]

Posted by islandprd

On 2008-11-09 08:22:10, NimmyxHuynh wrote:
Hey guys,
I downloaded the new Windows Live panel but it doesn't show on my panels list. What can I do to make it appear or do I have to re-download it again?

oh, I downloaded the file to my storage card (if that helps).

[ This Message was edited by: NimmyxHuynh on 2008-11-09 07:33 ]

Did u transfer to storage card using ms active sync explorer? If so just click on the file to auto install. Otherwise just use your X1 explorer to download directly. After running it should be appear on the panel setting page. click on the lock look alike icon twice and add the panel from the list

Posted by islandprd
I reckon that the txt size on certain sub menu can be smallish (especially for older users) due to the vga res on 3 in screen, rock solid and not pixelated like others. It is the limitation from the drappy but powerful OS, nothing to do with the brand or set. Its a matter of getting used to. I personally set mine to small text, no problem.

Posted by apanjwani
i have downloaded a zip file on my pc from this site http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441439 and the file is called "Touch HD Keyboard for X1" now how i install this file on my x1 .this file opens on my pc thru power archiver and when it opens alot of cab files are there in it but i dont know how to get this file on my x1.pls help.thnx

Posted by iva_se
Show your X desktop:

Posted by islandprd
@apanjwani
Have you drag and drop it with explorer in ActiveSync?

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Posted by hiho199
@ iva_se
I don't know where you got this wallpaper, maybe in this thread, but please send me this picture in high resolution.

thanks a lot, kind regards hiho199

Posted by SE-Naz
Hey people...
Just wondering how people are finding the loud speaker on the X1, while on a call???

Cheers

ENJOY

Posted by iva_se

On 2008-11-09 14:40:19, hiho199 wrote:
@ iva_se
I don't know where you got this wallpaper, maybe in this thread, but please send me this picture in high resolution.

thanks a lot, kind regards hiho199

Posted by MyP910

On 2008-11-09 13:37:25, apanjwani wrote:
i have downloaded a zip file on my pc from this site http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441439 and the file is called "Touch HD Keyboard for X1" now how i install this file on my x1 .this file opens on my pc thru power archiver and when it opens alot of cab files are there in it but i dont know how to get this file on my x1.pls help.thnx

1) I've downloaded the blacktstone keyboard .

2) once you download the zip file, you have to extract the files. then you will see a folder which contain a .cab file.

3) copy that file to your X1 storage media. I use the provided usb cable. then disconnect your x1 from the pc and execute the .cab file. this will install the keyboard.

4) for the installation location, choose device (internal) instead of storage media. I've tried to install in storage media, but the keyboard fail to load.

5) after finish installation, the phone will ask you to restart. restart the phone and you will see the keyboard as one of the input option.

...I've just finished installing voipbuster and already made a long distance call.... it works perfectly.

[ This Message was edited by: MyP910 on 2008-11-09 15:09 ]

Posted by netnerd
everytime i switch panel, the phone vibrate. is there a way to turn off vibrate?

Posted by pinguino1

On 2008-11-09 11:10:51, Dogmann wrote:
@Mizzle

Yes of course i knew the text size could be changed as i specifically asked it about before the X1 was even launched and it was the first thing i changed on the X1. I expressed my concern about text size from Videos and pictures i had seen and had been told i could change it which i did but it really didn't make anywhere near enough difference for me. Again your picture really doesn't prove anything you don't need a screen shot that exaggerates how it looks take a still picture of how it looks on the screen and not in macro mode either take it as if it's i your hand being used at the same distance you would be if using it. Or do you hold it just 3" from your face?

Now although i am much older than you i still have perfect eye sight no need for contacts or glasses thankfully. Now if i was the only person that had found text size to be an issue that would be one thing but that is far from being the truth. As plenty of other users are also less than happy with it and have said so.

But once again as is said earlier it may not bother all users and if not fine enjoy the X1 but it does seem to be a problem for quite a few and to suggest this

" Either way the only people who will have a problem with its text size, regardless of how small or large it is, are people with bad eye sight."

That is a joke right? you couldn't possibly believe that could you? as it is complete and utter rubbish as i said i have perfect eyesight and it annoyed the hell out of me. Have you gone round and asked everyone else that it's a problem for if they wear glasses? No i thought not.. It's all to do with personal preferences and just because it's fine for you doesn't mean it has to be or will be for everyone else does it? But suggesting anyone that finds it a problem has bad eyesight really that's just so funny.

Once more i really just can't understand why some feel the need to defend every aspect of a device as though it's a personal insult against them. There will never be a device that is perfect for all and just because a device doesn't suit some one doesn't make it a bad or useless device either just not right for them is all. But if you look around the Forums there are lots of people that love their X1's but there are also those that haven't and have either returned or Sold them. Just check out E-Bay and you will see how many of these in short supply X1's are for sale and they are not all branded versions either.

But when it comes to the issue of text size or even choice of fonts this is something that Blackberry with the Bold has really excelled themselves with 12 fonts and 8 sizes and to put it simply choice is good.

Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-11-09 10:15 ]

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Hey Marc... let it go.
You've been justifying the return of your X1 for almost a month in every forum I visit. Now it is getting almost personal with Mizzle.

I haven't seen one single post making you feel bad because you returned your X1. No regrets. It is just like you said each one has a reason to keep it other have a reason to returned.

You don't like small fonts? Fine, Perfect. Others like small fonts? fine , perfect.

Nobody is against you. Please, let it go.

Posted by MyP910
1) the default font of windows mobile is small....but not to the eye. I beleive nobody will have a problem reading the words..

2) the font/word is small to the finger. yes...this I agree for some of them. But...that's why we have panels to change the interface so that it will suit your need.

3) If someone find the font through windows mobile start button is too small for the finger, he/she can choose to use SPB panel for example. Through spb panel, the same function can be accessed using finger touch.

4) I also agree that the default virtual keyboard is small but you can install other type of virtual keyboard that is more user friendly. ( this is the advantage of winmo in my opinion).

5) by the way, I've seen a lot of iphone for sale on ebay (several pages).... does it mean that there are a lot of people don't like the phone ?

Posted by Dogmann
@My P910

Re your point 5 i was just commenting that the X1 isn't the best thing ever for all and that there are already a lot for resale. Which yet again doesn't mean it's a bad phone or rubbish just that not everyone thinks it's brilliant or right for them.

I have also noticed that the the price they are fetching on E-Bay is dropping so someone that wants one can pick up bargain a couple have gone for as low as �370 although others are still fetching �400-420.

Marc

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Posted by MyP910
@marc,

nobody is saying X1 is the best or the perfect phone ever made. It is a good phone... and as with all other phone or any devices... it will not be perfect.

Posted by masseur
I've been watching the completed auctions (because my son now wants one) and I really don't see anything unusual in the behaviour of X1 auctions compared with other SE or indeed other Nokia, Samsung etc at this time.

in early days, resale prices are generally set by people who have got cheap upgrades looking to capitalise on their re-commitment to the networks, although some are looking for insurance claims where the unfortunate buyer is going to get their unit blocked/barred while thinking they are getting a bargain.

In my experience, you cannot consider anything that happens on ebay in the first few months as a guide to the mood of the sellers or as a basis for setting a price

there are many who just buy the upgrade to resell at profit, and then more, like on esato, who get the phone to try because its

and then sell on at profit

this scenario is repeated over and over with each release of any phone, not just se. I can remember having an N95 when released and wanting one for my son and within a month it wasn't hard to get one for �250 unlocked, unbranded which had been a free upgrade to the seller at the time. the same applied when the N95 8gb came out as I managed to upgrade him through esato for a similar price after a similar time

in my experience you really can't quote ebay prices seriously until they settle down after about 6 months or so

generally, WM phones are much the same whatever brand you buy since they are all, well, WM!, though I do think the X1 is the best built I have had though the HD is coming to me very soon

Posted by mario2004
Hey,how does this device compare to the HTc Touch HD? The screen size and camera are obviously bigger/better on the HD,how about the rest? Is it safe to say the HD is the ULTIMATE phone/pda out there?
And some may find this interesting http://www.wmexperts.com/arti[....]ia_x1_panels_on_the_touch.html That much about text size arguments

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Posted by pinguino1

On 2008-11-10 03:34:41, mario2004 wrote:
Hey,how does this device compare to the HTc Touch HD? The screen size and camera are obviously bigger/better on the HD,how about the rest? Is it safe to say the HD is the ULTIMATE phone/pda out there?

Hi Mario,

I don't think "ultimate" really exist.
The valuation a of phone is very individually based (or biased) on 3 factors:

A- Subjective = Preferences,
B- Objective = Needs,
C- Economics = Price.

When you combine these 3 factors at best there is ONLY one "Ultimate" per person, BUT in reality you will seek the ultimate phone for ever, because it will never be one.

Having said that, allow me to list a few of my Personal needs/preferences

1- Definitely, I need/like physical querty keyboard. = Pro, Xperia
2- I prefer the hires = Xperia, HD
3- I need/like big screens = HD, iphone,
4- I want confort, slim factor = Diamond, HD, iPhone
5- I want portability small factor = Xperia, Diamond,
6- I need power and speed = Xperia, HD, Pro
7- I need lasting battery = Xperia
8- I like gadgets: FM, TV, Music, BT, GPS etc are desirable. = Xperia, Pro, HD, Omnia, Diamond
9- I like quality, originality = Xperia
10- Value/price = Any Phone, any price. I'll pay for the percived value
11- Carrier, bands, subsidized, unbranded = Xperia, Pro

My choice is Xperia. It is ALMOST my ultimate phone.

Find your ultimate phone: Try this list yourself

[ This Message was edited by: pinguino2 on 2008-11-10 04:15 ]

Posted by l337h1um
Mine has just arrived.

I will not be going to bed tonight.

Posted by WhyBe

@mario2004
You are one of the last surviving haters...congratulations

What type of phone do YOU have ?

I would say X1 is the best simply because you hang around here trying to prove that it's not. You know, people have a tendency to tear down what's on top

Posted by tyko
Hello, I installed the touch hd version of opera on my xperia but now i want to uninstall it, problem is that it doesnt show up in the remove program list. So how do you uninstall programs that doesnt show up there. I think i found some option that let you decide what programs should be visible in the program list but i cant find it anymore. Help needed!

[ This Message was edited by: tyko on 2008-11-10 08:20 ]

Posted by MyP910
@pinguino2

nice list....

as for me, I want/like phone that feel like a phone. When I hold it, it feels like ordinary phone, but it is a powerhorse and you can do everything with it.

I like a small formfactor so that I won't feel that I'm carrying a scientific calculator in my pocket.