Posted by max_wedge
On 2008-10-25 15:48:21, alexho wrote:
Can u show us some pictures of the Vodafone brand X1 pls? The main reason put me off from vodafone is their branding!
fortunately voda branding on WM is usually non-existent. My Samsung i780 had no branding whatsoever - the only vodafone touch was the data settings, which can be changed or deleted anyway.
Hopefully this is the case with X1 also
Posted by pinguino1
On 2008-10-25 13:08:38, masseur wrote:
opera works just as good as on the diamond so my feeling really is that if you used this in the dark you probably could not tell it apart from the HTC offerings.
Can't tell them apart? functionally I guess so.
But what about the larger screen with more content, and the brilliant and sharper display?
Can you please, verify this picture comparison from Asia Znet? I can see only a picture in a web page but you can see the real thing.
http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/[....]s/0,39001709,62047578-5,00.htm
Thanks.
.
Posted by masseur
Here's a pic I found here which, although not a real screen image of course, suggests no branding on the housing but branding in the firmware
On 2008-10-25 16:47:09, pinguino2 wrote:
Can you show the Umts selection bands screen? minimum we need 1900 for AT&T.
Where you bought it and do they ship to USA?
What's the price and do we pay VAT?
Is yours unbranded?
got it from Carphone Warehouse, I doubt they ship overseas, it was £539 and its unbranded
_________________
Unless I'm very much mistaken...
A-ZoTT
Posted by rontysee
Here is the vodafone branding
http://www.nullpacket.co.uk/X1_1.JPG
http://www.nullpacket.co.uk/X1_2.JPG
Found them on xperiaX1.net
Posted by Gok
Does anyone else have the retail version? Would you guys be kind enough to take a snapshot of this screen and post it as well? PLEASE?
Posted by Rodin69
Someone were asking how the camera in X1 is.
Well, when it comes to image quality I find it to be not as good as the one in P990. But the images look good as long as you keep them in the phone. And for everyday use they will do fine.
The video quality is rather lousy. At the moment I don't want to use VGA resolution in video recording, because it stutters if you move the phone too fast and the image quality is quite bad. I would say that the over all quality is better when using QVGA.
In this specific video I recorded for your enjoyment, it was actually quite fluid even though it was shot in VGA resolution, but the quality is still pretty poor in my opinion.
Video recording made with X1 -> http://video.grundaren.se/MOV_0159.3gp
Here are also a few pictures. They are directly out of the phone. Judge for yourselves.
Urban picture: http://video.grundaren.se/DSC_0149.jpg
At the train station: http://video.grundaren.se/DSC_0153.jpg
A stroll in the park: http://video.grundaren.se/DSC_0157.jpg
Close-up of a leaf: http://video.grundaren.se/DSC_0160.jpg
/Michael
Posted by Rodin69
On 2008-10-25 12:51:48, Trev1982 wrote:
@Masseur
So un-riddle this: do you need a stylus for on-screen text entry, or did they add some finger friendly input panel?
I know I'm not Masseur, but I would like to give my view of it anyway.
Many tasks can be performed with just the fingers. But I often find myself reaching for the stylus because it makes things easier. You can however use the optical joystick in many situations, but I still need to remember that. I think it takes a little while getting used to it.
/Michael
EDIT: Sorry, I read too fast. In the swedish version we don't even have the text-recognition. We only have that very small keyboard, which might work if you have very small fingers. When I try to use it without stylus I get the correct character 4 times out of 10.
[ This Message was edited by: Rodin69 on 2008-10-25 16:31 ]
Posted by NimmyxHuynh
On 2008-10-25 12:32:46, matthewf01 wrote:
For us American users (which as far as I remember seems to be just myself and WhyBe
), I've taken a gamble and placed an order with clove.co.uk since they are claiming to have the phone in stock.
Hopefully I get the damn thing; if I have luck I'll let you know
These international orders always worry me! Anyone in the UK get theirs from Clove? I wanted to confirm they really are totally unlocked-unbranded...
I'm from H-Town, Texas.
Expansys-UK will get it next week and those in the US who pre-ordered from expansys will probably get it on November 3rd or 4th (seeing how shipping usually takes 3-5 business days).
I CAN'T WAIT!!!!
Posted by Jah
Okay couldn't let Masseur get all the spot light today so got a silver X1 from CPW (will probably return my black Vodafone one when it arrives next week)
Posted by masseur
@Jah, nice one.
btw, none of the links on the default home page of the browser work, the ones for "sony ericsson", "panels", "x1 support", entertainment and accessories
anyone else having the problem? other web pages work fine
Posted by Rodin69
On 2008-10-25 17:51:50, masseur wrote:
@Jah, nice one.
btw, none of the links on the default home page of the browser work, the ones for "sony ericsson", "panels", "x1 support", entertainment and accessories
anyone else having the problem? other web pages work fine
They work sometimes.
I haven't put much investigation in this though. It may depend on whether you are connected via WAP or through WLAN.
/Michael
EDIT: I tried the links now, while connected through my WLAN, and they didn't work. But when I'm connected via WAP they do.
Don't ask my why. Probably a normal SE decision to make it this way.
So you shouldn't expect them to change it. Listening to customers is probably something they will never start doing.
EDIT2: My bad. They doesn't work however I'm connected. But I do know that they have worked before. And I also know they didn't work the day I got my phone. So I guess they will work sometimes, and sometimes not. Maybe the server is just overloaded now when everyone want to try it? The same would probably have occured two weeks ago when many people received their phones in Scandinavia.
[ This Message was edited by: Rodin69 on 2008-10-25 17:23 ]
[ This Message was edited by: Rodin69 on 2008-10-25 17:30 ]
Posted by masseur
nah, it won't connect anywhichway. I'll try again later
I just noticed that there's a wayfinder CD in the box but I've already installed tomtom 7 and Garmin XT so I won't bother with that
TT7 works well with touch as it is the version that was for the HTC Touch Diamond, but the Garmin XT still requires the use of the stylus
_________________
Unless I'm very much mistaken...
A-ZoTT
Posted by JD4341
Sorry been doing the family thing today so couldn't reply sooner.
Re VODAFONE branding
On the Box - just a smallish logo
On the handset - No logo on the front, small logo on the back under SE logo
On start up - just normal WM screen
Panels - there is a Vodafone panel as per pic
All in all not a huge amont of VF branding!
No memory card in the box but like Masseur there is a Wayfinder disk. Vodafone Find and go service also preloaded.
This is my first WM device so I am finding my way slowly
Sorry for quality of pics, taken with web cam for speed.
[ This Message was edited by: JD4341 on 2008-10-25 17:59 ]
[ This Message was edited by: JD4341 on 2008-10-25 18:01 ]
Posted by koto
Thanks for the last pic. I waited to see X1 vs P1. If it is possible plese give a short summary about differences between two regarding user friendliness, etc, what you are happy about and what you miss. Thanks in advance
Posted by bider
@koto
You can find some "X1 vs P1" pics here:
http://www.se-community.com/album.php?album_id=624&start=20
Posted by norbi_nw
post some pictures taken with X1.. want to see the camera's power. inside and outside plz.
Posted by sidneylopsides
You can download panels to your PC from the Fun and Downloads part of the SE site. Just got SPB and slideshow off there.
_________________
www.se-nse.net | http://www.mobile-review.com/index-en.shtml
[ This Message was edited by: sidneylopsides on 2008-10-25 18:48 ]
Posted by JD4341
@ koto. I will play with it more tonight and compare it with my p1 for you although I think there are people a lot better placed than me to do that.
That said I will give the Joe Shmo view rather the the more technical.
@norbie. I will take some pics tomorrow for you during the day time.
Cheers JD
Posted by koto
@bider
Thanks, nice pictures. Bigger X1 screen is obvious, although not wider at all. I hope 65 colours doesn't affect the overall experience.
Posted by koto
@JD
Great, you're the man
I need a P series lover (P1 satisfied user) to make a comparation and you perfectly match the description
For more technical and objective review I will wait for Dogmman and masseur.
Posted by WhyBe
On 2008-10-25 20:08:19, koto wrote:
@bider
Thanks, nice pictures. Bigger X1 screen is obvious, although not wider at all. I hope 65 colours doesn't affect the overall experience.
I doubt anyone can tell the difference between a 65K (16bit) color image and a 16M (24bit) one on a phone-sized screen. The differences seen are probably due to other factors.
pinguino2 wrote:
@all in USA.
Am I right when I say that 1900 is enough for 3G umts with AT&T?
I'm in New York and AT&T locally works over 850/1900 (UMTS II and V)
@all in USA.
Am I right when I say that 1900 is enough for 3G umts with AT&T?
I'm in New York and AT&T locally works over 850/1900 (UMTS II and V)
AT&T 3g uses either 1900 or 850 depending on the area of the country you are in. Here's some AT&T maps.
EDIT: Just realized I just repeated what you asked. I don't know the answer, maybe AT&T tech support can give you an answer. That's if you're lucky enough to get a tech support guy that knows what he is talking about
[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-10-25 19:34 ]
Posted by Rodin69
On 2008-10-25 19:43:35, norbi_nw wrote:
post some pictures taken with X1.. want to see the camera's power. inside and outside plz.
Was it something wrong with the pictures I posted about 2 hours ago?
No indoors though.
Posted by Jah
I think the links to Panels and Support on the X1 should be mobile.sonyericsson.com etc rather then wap.sonyericsson.com
The SPB Shell Panel works really well
Posted by shamuloco
can anyone confirm if Clove is a confident place to buy the X1?? i was hpong to order it from them but they actually have it in stock?? and is it really the latest firmware of the X1??
Posted by Jah
On 2008-10-25 20:48:09, shamuloco wrote:
can anyone confirm if Clove is a confident place to buy the X1?? i was hpong to order it from them but they actually have it in stock?? and is it really the latest firmware of the X1??
Clove is a very reliable retailer; better then the other expensive.com I could mention
Posted by Rodin69
I have a question for everyone owning an X1.
Can you try to send mail with it. I think they need to be at least 10k in size. Preferably a little bigger.
That's actually the only thing that really bothers me at the moment. It's most likely a bug. But I'm not sure if it's only the phone that gives me trouble, or if it has anything to do with my mail-provider.
I have the mail account set up in exactly the same way on my PC, and it works perfectly well there.
The trouble I have on the X1 is that only a part of the mail is sent. I tried sending a 32 kB mail, but only 12 kB was received in the other end. It contained two attachments, which wasn't delivered, and half of the text was truncated.
/Michael
Posted by masseur
just tested with a 39kb image (birthday_gift.gif that is already in the phone), came through to my pc fine
I'm realising now that I'm back with a WM with a physical keyboard that I miss the tilt of the TyTN II. They should have made this screen tilt too
Posted by gforce23
On 2008-10-25 18:56:35, JD4341 wrote:
I was a bit scared that the X1 would be a lot bigger than my P1i but your pic has laid those doubts to rest. Thanks.
Posted by mattiL
@Masseur & JAH
Firmware version ?
Posted by masseur
Posted by mattiL
Thank's masseur, seems to be the same 'pre release' as the swedish phones..
Posted by Jah
I suspect the Vodafone devices may have a different ROM given all the rumours about Vodafone network issues delaying the launch - has anyone already got a Voda X1 -please check the ROM version/date.
Posted by floatlite
I got mine today from Carphone Warehouse in Glasgow, they received them this morning. Apparently their main distribution centre got 730 on Friday, and drop shipped them to the main stores today.
They are all Silver models, and UK generic.
I got mine on a O2 upgrade, £40 month, and the phone was free, so far it's rather nice, OS is ever so slightly slow, but i'm sure it'll improve, and I'm amazed (but pleased) its a Micro SD card, not the usual Sony MS issue on SE handsets (I guess thats the HTC influence)
David
Posted by hydro-
finally got mine today im writing this on my x1 right now! woop! The silver version looks so much better in real life than the black! I would totally recommend the phone to anyone. By the way I've got youtube to work fine on IE.
Posted by masseur
X1 review at MoDaCo
Posted by Jah
Hardware wise the X1 is the best polished piece of equipment I have seen, much better then the Nokia E90. Shows that SE is really a hardware company. Only if SE were more like Apple in designing fully integrated devices we could have so much choice at the high-end.
_________________
Join the 'dots' and see what happens
[ This Message was edited by: Jah on 2008-10-25 21:56 ]
Posted by Jah
On 2008-10-25 21:43:40, masseur wrote:
Member 'hutchy' at www.xperiax1.net reports about the Voda ROM "my voda x1 is 1.02.161.7 and dated 17 sept 20098"
Posted by matthewf01
On 2008-10-25 13:52:38, gforce23 wrote:
On 2008-10-25 12:32:46, matthewf01 wrote:
For us American users (which as far as I remember seems to be just myself and WhyBe
), I've taken a gamble and placed an order with clove.co.uk since they are claiming to have the phone in stock.
Hopefully I get the damn thing; if I have luck I'll let you know
These international orders always worry me! Anyone in the UK get theirs from Clove? I wanted to confirm they really are totally unlocked-unbranded...
Another (future) X1 owner from Hotlanta here..
Matt, where in GA are you? I'm combing eBay to see if I can get a decent deal. Let us know if you actually receive one from Clove.
[ This Message was edited by: gforce23 on 2008-10-25 12:54 ]
Hey man; I'm in Dunwoody GA. You?
Wish there were some mobile phone shops in this city, I feel so left out that I can't go check out so many of these phones in person that everyone else always gets 'hands-on' with so casually
I'd been scanning ebay every day since X1 dropped in Sweden...nothing good to note. Here's to hoping Clove comes through! I will certainly let everyone know my luck.
Posted by norbi_nw
@rodin69
sorry i skipped that page by accident.. first pic is great, the others... well fair.
Posted by gforce23
On 2008-10-25 23:05:50, matthewf01 wrote:
On 2008-10-25 13:52:38, gforce23 wrote:
On 2008-10-25 12:32:46, matthewf01 wrote:
For us American users (which as far as I remember seems to be just myself and WhyBe
), I've taken a gamble and placed an order with clove.co.uk since they are claiming to have the phone in stock.
Hopefully I get the damn thing; if I have luck I'll let you know
These international orders always worry me! Anyone in the UK get theirs from Clove? I wanted to confirm they really are totally unlocked-unbranded...
Another (future) X1 owner from Hotlanta here..
Matt, where in GA are you? I'm combing eBay to see if I can get a decent deal. Let us know if you actually receive one from Clove.
[ This Message was edited by: gforce23 on 2008-10-25 12:54 ]
Hey man; I'm in Dunwoody GA. You?
Wish there were some mobile phone shops in this city, I feel so left out that I can't go check out so many of these phones in person that everyone else always gets 'hands-on' with so casually
I'd been scanning ebay every day since X1 dropped in Sweden...nothing good to note. Here's to hoping Clove comes through! I will certainly let everyone know my luck.
I live in Buckhead.. moved here after spending 3-odd years living just off Ashford Dunwoody Rd.
There might be a dearth of mobile phone shops around here but there are quite a few WinMo,
and Nokia fans.. a bunch of us are on Craigslist 24*7 scanning for high end phones. There's a guy in Roswell who is a big fan of WinMo devices and I suppose he might have gotten the X1 already.
By the way, what color did you order? I hope it ain't silver.
Posted by pinguino1
On 2008-10-25 20:08:19, koto wrote:
@bider
Thanks, nice pictures. Bigger X1 screen is obvious, although not wider at all. I hope 65 colours doesn't affect the overall experience.
Hi Koto,
Hi resolution at 65000 colors beats low resolution at millions of colors. Hands down any day of the week.
I don't have the X1 YET but I proved it to somebody in another forum against the iPhone. with the following example:
Let's do the math.
Xperia 65000 color = About 10000 shades of blue
iPhone 16 million colors = About 3 million shades of blue
Xperia screen size 2.57" x 1.54"
iPhone screen size 2.90" x 1.96"
Xperia screen resolution 800 x 480
iPhone screen resolution 480 x 320
Xperia in 2.57" displays 800 shades of blue
iPhone in 2.90" will displays only 480 shades of blue
NOW THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION:
Assuming both go from the same dark blue (B1)to the same light blue,(B8)
which one has the smoothest shade?
A- the one with 800 shades in a compact 2.57"
B- the one with just 480 shades in more spread 2.90" lenght
*******************************************
In case you are the rare exception who gets the wrong answer
look at this simplified example:
B1 is dark blue and B8 is light blue
<----2.57" 800 blues-->
Xperia
B1 B2 B3 B4 B5 B6 B7 B8
B1......B3......B5......B7......B8
iPhone
<-----2.90" 480 blues------>
Did you notice that in the iPhpne colors b2, b4,b6 are missing because it doesn't have the resolution to display them?
NOW THE 2 DOLLAR QUESTION:
which one is more likely to have color bands showing?
If you answer this one wrong again you are a hopeless... iphone fanboy
*********************************
@WhyBe
I don't have the X1 YET, but I'm sure you can see the difference. In the example above iPhones has 320 blue shades less. That must be noticible. That will be the first test I'll make. You can see the diference between X1 and Pro in the Asia.Znet comparison (see the link in my yesterday post)
[ This Message was edited by: pinguino2 on 2008-10-26 00:04 ]
Posted by matthewf01
On 2008-10-25 23:51:26, gforce23 wrote:
Hey man; I'm in Dunwoody GA. You?
Wish there were some mobile phone shops in this city, I feel so left out that I can't go check out so many of these phones in person that everyone else always gets 'hands-on' with so casually
I'd been scanning ebay every day since X1 dropped in Sweden...nothing good to note. Here's to hoping Clove comes through! I will certainly let everyone know my luck.
I live in Buckhead.. moved here after spending 3-odd years living just off Ashford Dunwoody Rd.
There might be a dearth of mobile phone shops around here but there are quite a few WinMo,
and Nokia fans.. a bunch of us are on Craigslist 24*7 scanning for high end phones. There's a guy in Roswell who is a big fan of WinMo devices and I suppose he might have gotten the X1 already.
By the way, what color did you order? I hope it ain't silver.
Tricks and Tricks for K800 File System Tweaks for K750
