Posted by d-southwest
What up?
Sorry for asking THIS , but is tha battery cover tha only thing made of metal?
Peace
Posted by iwantfatty
And what is the screen made of? my W950 has a touchscreen - and because of this it has an awful plastic screen, surely they have moved on!
Posted by clauf
On 2008-06-15 00:45:12, iwantfatty wrote:
And what is the screen made of? my W950 has a touchscreen - and because of this it has an awful plastic screen, surely they have moved on!
I wouldn't mind seeing "mineral glass scratch resistant" on the X1. Most flagships have this: the flagship of the Tseries (not really a flagship but =P), flagship of the Cybershot series C905 [upcoming flagship], so Sony Ericsson's next flagship device should have mineral glass =P
Posted by WhyBe
On 2008-06-14 23:37:00, d-southwest wrote:
What up?
Sorry for asking THIS , but is tha battery cover tha only thing made of metal?
Peace
I believe it's all metal. Don't know if the screen is glass, though.
Posted by aksd
I dont think so. Bits above and below the battery cover look plastic to me. It would be hard to make the entire phone metal. But I'm sure they've used good metal replacement composites where theres no metal on the X1 to make it look metal. Like a few Motorolas. Bit s of them are metal and the remaining very similar in feel to metal, but they're composite, which is easier to mould. And this gives an overall metal feeling to the phone.
HTC mentioned that their Diamond screen is some sort of scratch resistant glass, so I suppose the X1 might incorporate a similar type touch screen. But I know for sure its hard and not soft like the P1i or TYTn II.
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Posted by mib1800
I think the X1 fate is getting bleaker by the day. Samsung gonna announce the i900 in late June and would be avaialble 2 weeks after announcment.
With the Diamond already shipping and i900 to follow suit soon and Touch Pro not long after that, X1 is now stupidly late.
Posted by aksd
And the i900 is supposed to have the Marvel PXA320 processor which has a maximum clock rate of 800Mhx although I resume its going to be underclocked to 624Mhz, the user should be able to clock it to 800Mhz easy. And its supposed to have upto DI resolution decode
using the intel MMX2 technology. Although it does'nt have 3D gamin acceleration it does have video acceleration as well as support OpenGL1.1 whereas the MSM 7200 supports only OpenGL1.0, although doubt that would much of a difference to the end user . But the i900 does seem to look better and better, should wait till the 21ist for the offical launch.
Posted by thebluesman
OK, before I get flamed to death, I am a hardcore Sony Ericsson fan and write this post with ahint of depressed resignation that Sony have finally LOST it. PLUS I'm talking about strategic high end Sony products ... hence that why I'm in the Xperia forum .. !! anyway ..
Let's face it ... by the time Ericsson get their act together they will be left
W ...... A....... Y behind.
The Xperia looks nice enough ... but the HTC is basically an Xperia in disguise.
OK, you can go on about the formats and carriers and whatever ... but ..
The Xperia is YESTERDAY'S solution and it's gonna look like a croc when it FINALLY gets released.
Samsung (very sexy phones) and Apple, looking at the phone as a convergent multi application (not just media) device.
Personally I don't want to walk around with an extended candy bar format phone bulging outta my pocket and that's what the Xperia is ..
Big and cumbersome.
Sorry to be negative, I love my Sony, but this time it seems .. they've run out of steam and are playing BIG catch up ..
The question is .. is what they're GONNA offer in Sep/Dec or Mar 2009 worth even catching up to ??
Get rid of that diamond affair at the end of the phone, make the screen bigger, thinner and you got something that could possibly be a future looking phone .. that can compete with the iPhone.
The problem with Sony is that they don't have the application development base that Apple has (for instance) and that means that Apple can port applications across 3 platforms. Mac, iPhone and the iPod range.
Let's face it, one year from now ... or whenever Sony decide to release their FLAGSHIP product, means an extra year for the likes of Steve Jobs and Co. to just add and add and add to their portfolio of systems and product offerings.
I've looked at the PAris model and frankly, it's a sad joke. Not something that I would EVER consider moving to because yet again, it's a tweak on existing offerings that are out there a plenty.
So ... I find myself in the unBELIEVABLE position of actually considering an iPhone.
Cos everything else Sony has out there just looks TIRED..
IF Sony made it ... I'd buy it ... but not if it's got valves in it with a slot at the back for inserting coal ..
Thoughts ?? ..
Posted by aksd
@thebluesman
Very valid points
, especially about the X1 being out dated at its release.
But you did make one error, HTCs are not Xperia in disguise but its the other way round, the X1 is a HTC is disguise. Its built on a platform tried and tested HTC for the last 2 years in the least. Every phone has a minimum of 1.5 yrs lead time before launch, and the DIamond is already out, and I know for a fact that the DIamon R&D started in Nov 2006. Same platform as the X1.
But regarding the Xperia line, I think this is just the beginning, they will have a few more Xperia branded WM handsets made by HTC although I suppose with future models they will have a greater hand in the final product. Here I think this was more of damage control to save SE's high end line that they've given HTC a hurried order on HTC's current platform with SE's designs and whatever apps they want added.
Wheather a person is a fan boy or not, we post in such communities because we have a love for technology, and at the moment SE are not providing it, I'm far from being loyal to any customer so which ever phones got the best tech I'm on it lol. In todays market scene it just does'nt pay to stay loyal to a cellphone manufacturer as most of them dont even care about the induvidual user.
Posted by ori
I considered many factors about X1, and think that Sony should drop it, it is better not to release X1 at all, otherwise it may lead to loss and ever bigger gap between Sony and others. Though the position in camera phones market is quite good, I think Sony Ericsson portfolio lacks phones with charisma, there are phones with a very good and original design like T650, M600, yet mostly it is the ride on the T610 success basically I believe that the majority of Sony’s portfolio is based around developing the T610 ideas and few failed conceptions, that means that for 5 years Sony had one really working concept and two concepts (P series and the budget phones) that weren’t bad yet weren’t something really great (I love P900, but still it wasn’t near perfect), that all leads to the conclusion that either Sony should change its way of thinking dramatically or it will fail…
Posted by Dups!
I keep reading about Sony and I'm wondering who in the world is SONY?
Posted by d-southwest
Thanks for yall answers
I dont know if this is something important stuff there saying, but maybe its something to look
http://www.myvideo.nl/watch/3891751
Posted by bavlondon2
Nice video. Animations look a bit smoother but nothing new we havent already seen.
Will X1 use Opera 9.5 as standard?
Posted by aksd
@bav
As far as I know it uses IE, may change before release though, which is a long way off
.
Posted by iwantfatty
IF Sony made it ... I'd buy it ... but not if it's got valves in it with a slot at the back for inserting coal ..
Couldn’t stop laughing at that, made my day thanks! - very true though
Posted by WhyBe
On 2008-06-15 09:08:49, mib1800 wrote:
I think the X1 fate is getting bleaker by the day. Samsung gonna announce the i900 in late June and would be avaialble 2 weeks after announcment.
With the Diamond already shipping and i900 to follow suit soon and Touch Pro not long after that, X1 is now stupidly late.
You guys have no patience
None of these phones are on the market yet:
i900
Touch Pro
Diamond
for all we know, they all are going to hit the shelves on the same day. The i900 isn't U.S. friendly and neither the Touch Pro nor Diamond has been announced at AT&T yet. Not to start a spec argument again, but the Xperia X1 is still top dog spec-wise (Raphael is right there though
). I see no legitimate reason to jump the 
ship yet.
I just looked at that X1 video in the post above (thanks d-southwest
) and those graphics look amazingly smooth...iPhone smooth. Not the jittery prototype stuff we've been looking at for the last few months. Makes me wonder what else has in store for the X1 since it seems pretty polished right now
I will believe there are problems when other companies have an equal package available signifigantly earlier than the X1 (not just announced, but, available for purchase).
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Posted by aksd
The Diamond is out, been out for a while, just because it has'nt reached US shores does'nt mean that it has'nt launched yet
.
I think Plemix are stocking them.
Posted by WhyBe
On 2008-06-16 02:34:51, aksd wrote:
The Diamond is out, been out for a while, just because it has'nt reached US shores does'nt mean that it has'nt launched yet
.
I think Plemix are stocking them.
Yes, I was talking only about the U.S. release for all of them. There must be some business reason that the U.S. models are released so much later. My friend, who works for AT&T, says there has been no mention whatsoever of the Touch Pro or the Diamond's release. The Samsung is only single band according to the info.
Posted by iwantfatty
But wont the Q4 date for the X1 be for europe... sorry if it is mentioned otherwise somewhere
Posted by WhyBe
On 2008-06-16 07:56:30, iwantfatty wrote:
But wont the Q4 date for the X1 be for europe... sorry if it is mentioned otherwise somewhere
@iwantfatty
Well, that's definitely something to consider. But, given that
intends for the X1 to gain them some American smartphone marketshare AND it's release date is set for the U.S. Christmas season, I don't see why would wait until AFTER the Christmas season (when everyone is broke and in debt ) to release a high-end smartphone. Especially since most smartphone buyers in the U.S. will want iPhones and Blackberry's for Christmas.
There also was that mid-September release date listed in the Handago memo to developers. Maybe that's the release for the "non-U.S." units?
Posted by norti
New pictures and preview (coming soon) on the still not retail X1: http://www.boygeniusreport.co[....]y-ericsson-xperia-x1-hands-on/
Posted by jkthewarrior
On 2008-06-16 03:15:25, WhyBe wrote:
On 2008-06-16 02:34:51, aksd wrote:
The Diamond is out, been out for a while, just because it has'nt reached US shores does'nt mean that it has'nt launched yet
.
I think Plemix are stocking them.
Yes, I was talking only about the U.S. release for all of them. There must be some business reason that the U.S. models are released so much later. My friend, who works for AT&T, says there has been no mention whatsoever of the Touch Pro or the Diamond's release. The Samsung is only single band according to the info.
Its because they make more profit selling to the rest of the world!!
Posted by d-southwest
There is one thing i dont get!!!!!
What is SE developing now for tha Xperia?
And do you guys think that tha new Nokia E71 could be a compitition for this phone??
And just two things?
I was wondering.....
How is tha (dvd)quality of tha video player ( if you know)?
Do yall think that SE is going to put there own Mediaplayer?
- To WhyBe
No problem
Peace
Posted by WhyBe
On 2008-06-16 20:37:21, d-southwest wrote:
There is one thing i dont get!!!!!
What is SE developing now for tha Xperia?
And do you guys think that tha new Nokia E71 could be a compitition for this phone??
And just two things?
I was wondering.....
How is tha (dvd)quality of tha video player ( if you know)?
Do yall think that SE is going to put there own Mediaplayer?
- To WhyBe
No problem
Peace
My guess is that
is finishing the accompanying software for the X1 (media player, pic browser, radio controller, additional panels, etc.). I certainly don't believe they are taking all of this time to just get the panels working, as some believe. Also is working with developers to have a selection of software available for download, directly to the X1, from Handango InHand. They also have the PlayNow service, which it seems they're making into a big thing for their devices. All in all, is apparently not just going to release a wonderful piece of hardware. They need great software to deliver a great experience (Xperia) for the user. I don't know how ground breaking the included software will be, but it should at least be nice and compliment the X1 well.
They claim DVD quality video playback (and they have the screen to do it
). BengalBoy says the video quality was excellent on his prototype. The American model will have video encoding restrictions though (only QVGA @ 24fps as opposed to VGA @ 30fps).
As far as comparisons go, I think the HTC Touch Pro (Raphael) is directly comparable to the X1. The e71 seems more in line with the Blackberry Bold.
Posted by Dogmann
@WhyBe
I think you will find near DVD quality is 640x480 VGA so i really don't see how the X1 will offer near DVD quality in 3gp or H.263 sorry but it's not even close to it. Which is why right from the start i questioned the claims of being a Multimedia powerhouse. Now as a Business device it is far better equipped.
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Posted by WhyBe
On 2008-06-16 21:55:25, Dogmann wrote:
@WhyBe
I think you will find near DVD quality is 640x480 VGA so i really don't see how the X1 will offer near DVD quality in 3gp or H.263 sorry but it's not even close to it. Which is why right from the start i questioned the claims of being a Multimedia powerhouse. Now as a Business device it is far better equipped.
@Dogmann
I knew you'd show up sooner or later
DVD quality simply means SD 720x480p resolution. Whether the compression format is mpeg2 (true DVD video) or mpeg4 or whatever is irrelevant. BengalBoy certainly says it's nice on his prototype.
I never read anything about the X1 being a "multimedia powerhouse". What constitues a multimedia powerhouse in your view?
Posted by p85w
On 2008-06-16 19:41:35, norti wrote:
New pictures and preview (coming soon) on the still not retail X1: http://www.boygeniusreport.co[....]y-ericsson-xperia-x1-hands-on/
One major flaw, though… Do you really want to know? The keyboard! Listen guys, if you’re going to throw on a QWERTY, at least make sure it’s worth having, ok? Not to say that this keyboardis absolutely terrible, but it’s one of the worst. Think Sony UX computer, for those of you that have one or have used one. The sliding mechanism comes right ontop of the keys, and thus, the keys don’t travel a lot when pressed. They give little to no feedback despite "having a cool triangular design."
This is actually the real first negative thing I have read about the xperia x1. Not good :'-(
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Posted by Dogmann
Hi WhyBe
Well none of our mobile devices do DVD quality it's near DVD quality and really there is no one Multimedia powerhouse although some come close IMO.
The iPhone for watching Films and Video and listening to Music but not for Recording Video. The N95 8GB for recording Video and watching via the TV out although on the devices 2.8" screen it is a little small IMO but is still very good.
The E90 is the best for watching Video on it's 4" 800x352 screen in MP4 H.264 and the quality really is excellent. In fact it's the best i have seen and Video recording is also very good but Music is good but not the best.
The X1 is missing the all important H.264 for watching Video and whilst it may still offer MP4 3gp or H.263 the quality just isn't as good as H.264 I'm afraid not even close. Which is why it will be reasonable at best and not as good as some of the other devices.
I know you firmly believe the X1 is going to be the ultimate device and maybe for you it will be but it definitely won't be for me not even close.
I am far more interested in the BB Bold if i can get over the 2.5" screen or the BB Thunder if i can move back to a Touchscreen. I am also far more interested in seeing what Android delivers on launch again if i can move back to a Touchscreen. As from the Video's i have seen so far it looks very good and fast and fully featured.
Marc
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Posted by Dogmann
Hi all,
Interesting to see what the BGR says about the keyboard as despite not having enough keys IMO i also don't like the spacing. The lack of tactile feedback could be a real pain in use and at the end of the day it doesn't matter how great it looks it how it performs that is going to count. Well hopefully it won't be to long till full production units are released and it hits the market.
Marc
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Posted by WhyBe
On 2008-06-16 23:08:07, p85w wrote:
Think Sony UX computer, for those of you that have one or have used one. The sliding mechanism comes right ontop of the keys, and thus, the keys don’t travel a lot when pressed. They give little to no feedback despite "having a cool triangular design."
How big do you think the X1 is? And, have you actually had one in your hand?
Posted by WhyBe
On 2008-06-16 23:09:16, Dogmann wrote:
The X1 is missing the all important H.264 for watching Video and whilst it may still offer MP4 3gp or H.263 the quality just isn't as good as H.264 I'm afraid not even close. Which is why it will be reasonable at best and not as good as some of the other devices.
The X1 is missing the all important H.264 for watching Video and whilst it may still offer MP4 3gp or H.263 the quality just isn't as good as H.264 I'm afraid not even close. Which is why it will be reasonable at best and not as good as some of the other devices.
@Dogmann
I have seen no specifications saying the X1 can't play H.264 @ 30 fps video. What makes you think it can't? The restriction listed in the whitepaper in encode only, not decode (playback).
I don't see what difference it makes anyway since there is no TV out and it only has a 3" screen.
Posted by Dogmann
@WhyBe
If you can't see what difference it makes it means you really don't understand anything we have been discussing about Video quality at all then doesn't it?
They only ever quote recording but it is decoding as well and as i have tried to point out to you both 3gp and H.263 although Mp4 are far inferior qualities. Which is why having H.264 is always highlighted as being the gold standard in mobile devices, as the results it gives are just so much better especially important on smaller screens.
A good example of this is mtube that is H.263 encode and YouTube that is H.264 the difference in quality is very noticeable.
Marc
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Posted by WhyBe
On 2008-06-17 00:13:30, Dogmann wrote:
@WhyBe
If you can't see what difference it makes it means you really don't understand anything we have been discussing about Video quality at all then doesn't it?
What, are you going to sit around the X1 with a bucket of popcorn and have movie night with your family? I'm saying whether its codec A or codec B, it's still a tiny 3" screen with no TV out. Why make a huge deal about whether it's h.264 or h.263 or mp4? It will be decent pocket video regardless.
They only ever quote recording but it is decoding as well
You're making an assumption that is likely very wrong. Video encoding is far, far more CPU intensive than decoding. So it is likely that X1 DOES support H.264 @ 30fps playback (decode)--just not recording (encode).
I am not debating the quality of the various formats.
Posted by Guticb
A bit of a topic change, but still X1 relevant.
I heard that the Xperia supports the 1700MHz spectrum, which is T-Mobile's 3G frequency. A few months after that, I heard that SE removed the 1700MHz support. 2 questions about it.
1) Did they really remove it?
2) If so, is there any chance T-Mobile USA will still get it. They (As well as I) need a phone that doesn't suck ass. >_>
Posted by WhyBe
On 2008-06-17 00:55:26, Guticb wrote:
A bit of a topic change, but still X1 relevant.
I heard that the Xperia supports the 1700MHz spectrum, which is T-Mobile's 3G frequency. A few months after that, I heard that SE removed the 1700MHz support. 2 questions about it.
1) Did they really remove it?
2) If so, is there any chance T-Mobile USA will still get it. They (As well as I) need a phone that doesn't suck ass. >_>
Look here and download the whitepaper too.
Posted by Guticb
Thanks for the link.
Sucks that they really did scrap 1700MHz.... I REALLY wanted a T-mobile version with it. =/
Posted by chombos1
On 2008-06-17 00:13:30, Dogmann wrote:
They only ever quote recording but it is decoding as well....
no man.... not correct.
even my P990 - P1 - K850 - W910 - ..... can all play (((H.264 format))) QVGA@30fps...
decoding a video is much less CPU hungry than Encoding a video...
So you and anyone else can be sure of the X1 capability to playback H.264 VGA(and WVGA)@30fps video.
but yes... unfortunatly X1 supports 15fps H.264 encoding.
regarding the quality: H.264 is far better than H.263 codecs. it's obvious in every resolution (unless the H.263 one has more bitrate than the H.264 one).
in VGA the loss of quality in H.263 encoding should be neglectable because of the resolution.
((who knows... maybe they add the H264 VGA@30fps encoding capability upon the release))
Tnx.
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Posted by WhyBe
Thanks chombos1
Posted by p85w
On 2008-06-16 23:22:09, WhyBe wrote:
On 2008-06-16 23:08:07, p85w wrote:
"Think Sony UX computer, for those of you that have one or have used one. The sliding mechanism comes right ontop of the keys, and thus, the keys don’t travel a lot when pressed. They give little to no feedback despite "having a cool triangular design.""
How big do you think the X1 is? And, have you actually had one in your hand?
Ehh, they tested the phone soo yes I think they have had it in their hands, do´h... Why are you rosponding as if i wrote that??? I was just commenting it.
Posted by Dogmann
@Chombos
They can't just add it at release it's down to hardware not tweaking the software so that is just never going to happen even in yours and WhyBe's wildest dreams.
Also if you don't realise the huge difference between QVGA and VGA there really is very little point discussing this any further you carry on believing what ever makes you happy.
I am not the one that is trying to claim the X1 has great multimedia as quite obviously it doesn't and won't.
@WhyBe
Suddenly you've gone form saying how wonderful the 3.5" screen is to well it's not important which is just typical of an SE fan. Anything they don't have or support is always nothing important or special until SE has it an then suddenly it's the best thing ever. Freaking funny or what!!
Yet again stop trying to prove an as yet unreleased device is the best and wait till it's released and we can all judge then on what is delivered.
But so far i still can't see one thing that the X1 is going to be better at than my long released and in the market and being used E90. The only advantage it has is for those that want it is a touchscreen and not all of us do as many of us prefer a better, easier to read in all conditions screen instead.
Marc
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Posted by Humble
What is so unsettling in the Smartphone (Research and Development) is the time to market new devices in the case of the X1 it is slightly older, Just the MSM7200 with hardware acceleration enabled by Qualcomm,S.E bought the license, Not sure if its a subsidy or a flat out payment (say 10 million US)
all these manufactures "big up" these phone, then release them next Epoch, By that time every one caught up, and gone one better lol
I have never owned an Apple product, due to the Itunes and copywright etc, But ironically for so short in the Phone market they are Light years ahead, The structural foundation of hardware and software is Top class,
btw the blackberry 9000 seem very promising,
I most admit I do like my eye candy and TAT are doing some beautiful GUI
absolutely ethereal, they working with the OMAP3,
COME ON HTC!!! PUT IN A MSM7850 in your revision of the TOUCH PRO and call it the XTREME, and release it lik NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by WhyBe
On 2008-06-17 12:05:46, Dogmann wrote:
@Chombos
They can't just add it at release it's down to hardware not tweaking the software so that is just never going to happen even in yours and WhyBe's wildest dreams.
Also if you don't realise the huge difference between QVGA and VGA there really is very little point discussing this any further you carry on believing what ever makes you happy.
I am not the one that is trying to claim the X1 has great multimedia as quite obviously it doesn't and won't.
@WhyBe
Suddenly you've gone form saying how wonderful the 3.5" screen is to well it's not important which is just typical of an SE fan. Anything they don't have or support is always nothing important or special until SE has it an then suddenly it's the best thing ever. Freaking funny or what!!
Yet again stop trying to prove an as yet unreleased device is the best and wait till it's released and we can all judge then on what is delivered.
But so far i still can't see one thing that the X1 is going to be better at than my long released and in the market and being used E90. The only advantage it has is for those that want it is a touchscreen and not all of us do as many of us prefer a better, easier to read in all conditions screen instead.
@Dogmann
Geesh man, you're really spinning and misquoting TODAY!
- You were wrong about the h.264 decoding.
I love the WVGA screen, never said it wasn't important.
The e90 isn't pocket sized or sexy as X1
QVGA is not a factor for the X1i (only the X1a).
If the X1 decodes h.264 VGA @ 30fps, there's nothing for you to complain about.
I bet the e90 is a great phone...you can even stand under it when it rains. The X1 can't do that!
@p85w--Sorry, I missed that.
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Posted by chombos1
Hi dogman.
Did you read my post?... I doubt.
The point was. (in case you don't know)
P990 - P1 - ... All have the capability to playback H.264 @30fps. And none of them have the ability to record (encode) 30fps H.264
(real time H.264 encoding is very CPU intensive)
I was saying that decoding H.264 does not require all the hardware that is nessesary for encoding it.
(( and can you show me, where i compared QVGA and VGA resolutions?? ))
And regarding the wishful thinking: did you noticed that SE upgraded the RAM to 256MB?... So an upgrade in the hardware is not impossible.
Hehehe... I never thought that someday someone tell me that i don't know the difference between QVGA and VGA. After 4 years of working on graphic algorithms and image processing... ...
Let me ask you a question...
What was the point of creating H.264 when i can have better quality with an ancient cinepack codec?
The answer is that i will have a better quality/size ratio.
And thats all about this.
Anyway... I am not an X1 defender. But the facts are facts wether you like it or not.
The X1 DOES have the ability to flawlessly playback WVGA@30fps video.
Good luck man.
Posted by mobman
Clearly states h264 decoding???
Posted by Dogmann
Hi WhybE
Sorry but i don't accept what Chombos is saying as it is not VGA H.264 as he claims. Which is why if you read many of threads here people need something like Coreplayer to play H.264 properly and in Sync and in VGA.
Well done everyone knows the E90 isn't small but if size is so important to buy a nice looking thin device and pay the price in cut down abilities. But as i never put any phone in a pocket but in a nice leather case that goes on my waist the weight isn't a problem for a big strong man like myself
after all it's only 210gms not pounds.
As i have said before i will happily take the larger size and weight for a 4" screen and 57 key keyboard as opposed to saving a little and getting a cut down keyboard instead. Plus of course all the other things my E90 does that the X1 can't and will of done for so long before we even see the X1 released never mind if it will be stable or not.
@Chombos well how about here where you say
"no man.... not correct.
even my P990 - P1 - K850 - W910 - ..... can all play (((H.264 format))) QVGA@30fps... "
I think that's where you say it is indeed QVGA and not VGA is it not? So OK then why do so many people complain and have trouble paying VGA H.264 files and need to resort to using Coreplayer then? or H.263 or 3gp files instead then?
@Mobamn
We know it can encode H.264 but only @15fps VGA.
Marc
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Posted by C905
@ Dogmann
I don't know much about encoding, but does H.264 30fps make a noticeably difference?
Posted by QVGA
On 2008-06-17 21:46:30, C905 wrote:
@ Dogmann
I don't know much about encoding, but does H.264 30fps make a noticeably difference?
on a phone, i doubt it will.
Posted by Yakkaimono
Why not just test it on the touch diamond somebody on esato has one I think.
Posted by norti
X1 preview: http://www.boygeniusreport.co[....]ony-ericsson-xperia-x1-review/
The device is really high-end, except for the keyboard (at least for BGR
)
Posted by WhyBe
On 2008-06-17 21:53:28, Yakkaimono wrote:
Why not just test it on the touch diamond somebody on esato has one I think.
Aaah...a voice of reason.