Posted by BobaFett
On 2008-02-22 22:50:58, djin wrote:
i really dont think wm6 wud be upgraded to wm7...thou it wud be great if it did.
Aneways, m not gonna get X1, gonna buy X2 or watever the next wm7 device will be
u can alwasy take a cooked rom, if there is no official wm7 release for xperia. i use the same way wm6 in htc trinity
Posted by Tigershark42
I was wondering: why have SE announced X1 if the hardware is said to be incomplete? I understand the OS issue, but if the hardware wasnt done, its abit random to announce. I'll stop short of saying they shouldve waited for it to be completed before announcing so that they could give full specs etc, but at the time I really wanted to see something new from SE >D.
Posted by drgopoos
slim image of xperia.
Dont know if already posted here
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Posted by Leks
staff where at my store/work today and showed the X1, but I was on lunch 
Posted by tomjsmith000
I think Sony should do as little as possible to the existing OS or make their own.
This phone just screams out slow and clunky to me. Sony even make their top-end vaio's slow with their pre-installed stuff.
Posted by tonyitalian
I'm dying to get my hands on one of these at least to test it out ...... its only just been announced ....... oh mannnnn...not before nov i guess
Posted by Dups!
Sleek and nice looking l must say. Like a number of members I'm not too keen on WM.
Posted by zub
thats all fine and dandy but does it support flash?
Posted by Leks
On 2008-02-25 14:07:33, Leks wrote:
staff where at my store/work today and showed the X1, but I was on lunch
why why why did I go to MC'Donald's?
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Posted by PeterKay
tut tut Leks, how did u miss it
Posted by kenx3000
@PK
PK, about the price of $600-700, is that speculated from present time frame or 2H 2008 time frame? If the price is speculated from this point of time, by the time the phone comes out, the price will be at a more suitable range. I would say $549-$599. I heard that for SE's marketing to launch some phones later is not only to be able to drop the price, but they could also have a duo(wiell I did know from your previous post that Microsoft is the main factor of the delay).
In this case, if Pnext does announce some time in mid-year, and sell in Q3 or Q4, then it'll be a duo with X1. Just by thinking of this makes me smile
Posted by djin
its gonna be more than 700$ ! i mean w960i was 600$, then X1 has to be 700+!
@tigershark
yeah, me too thinking about that, but so far, the leaked wm7 pics n their concepts seemed to be much bettr, but time will only tell...
@bobafett
wat do u mean by cooked rom????
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Posted by Tigershark42
PK any more news on the P5? That is what alot of us were waiting for, after all. So, most importantly, any indication on when it may be released? Much appreciated!
Posted by sepehr_sz
When will this phone be available in the UK?
Posted by mode
While the X1 looks stunning, it's wow effect is starting to wear off on me when we start talking about the features it offers, I can't imagine how much more it'll wear off by the time it reaches the shelves. I'm not really the type who wants more in the specs like megapixels or RAM so long that it's enough to do the job. I'm more interested about new, significant things a device can offer. It has been a while since SE has had that effect on me and I have to say it's still a miss with this one. For instance, Samsung D880 just came out with a dual active GSM in one phone, and how Nokia is revolutionizing television in mobile phones. I'll probably still get the X1 since I think it would serve all my needs, but when is SE going start being innovative again?
Posted by zub
so does it support flash?
Posted by max_wedge
it's a WM device. What do you mean by flash? Flash animations in menu? Flash Macromedia on webpages? Plays Flash Lite animations?
AFAIK the menu won't support flash animations nor will this phone be modifiable through far, xs++ etc. However menu mods will be available through the usual WM menu enhancements. (SPB etc)
Does WM6 support Flash in webpages? Don't know.
Posted by mode
I think zub is refering to webpage flash that enables streaming videos on sites such as youtube. Are there any other phones that could do that now by the way?
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Posted by tonyitalian
i just dont care abt the features anymore, i just want it asap.
any idea on the available month and the pricing?? i mean i know its gna be available" in select markets in the second half of 2008"...but anyone know anything else??
Posted by PeterKay
not yet, too early to speculate
Most likely Quater 4 i would say, first
device with WM so patience will be needed.
Posted by xironghostx
On 2008-02-28 17:58:26, PeterKay wrote:
not yet, too early to speculate
Most likely Quater 4 i would say, first
device with WM so patience will be needed.
I think that is too late..
Posted by PeterKay
Its an assumption, could be i think.
Hopefully its earlier but don't keep your hopes too high
Posted by hahaha112
why doesn't X1 have 5 mp cam, Accelerometer, 16 gig and fast port (know its is an htc). Come on
your loosing the fight, i love but i have been disappointment for some time now. came with W960i good competitor to iPhone but to slow processor. now Nokia has some phones with 5mp that are not dedicate camera phones i mean that i love X1 but i am a little disappointed with the specification
come on answer me what do you think
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Posted by WhiteEye
X1 will be available in market next year.
source: SEMC blog
Posted by Mizzle
As I told Maximys, that list of phones availability and production stop is the biggest load of c**p ever. W580 won't stop being produced till 2011? Oh please...
Posted by Maximys
On 2008-02-28 19:24:58, WhiteEye wrote:
X1 will be available in market next year.
It's 100% true info. So, yes! X1 will be available in market next year.
Posted by PeterKay
thats a load of b@llocks in that table
Posted by makbil
If the info in that table is anywhere near the truth, I say SE has already lost this battle. Just what do you think the specs will be for devices released next year? Definitely much better than what the X1 will offer. I could just get an HTC Tytn II and I don't think I would really be missing anything from the X1 which is still a year away from the stores.
Posted by PeterKay
Don't think
have lost the battle in any way!!
They are doing very well in a competitive market, not easy to do with other huge manufacturers coming up with impressive hardware each year,
are still up there battling hard no matter when the X1 comes out.
Posted by Tigershark42
PK: is Paris (/'P5') meant to be similar to the X1? Its probably all smoke and mirrors but there are rumours that it will be like the 'brother' of the X1 (like G700 is to the G900? Or vice versa?). What would you say to this (within your limits)? Id love to see a similar device running what we dub UIQ4.
Posted by PeterKay
the P is nothing like the X series, no relation apart from the
logo
Posted by BobaFett
imo doesnt matter what x1 will containe in the hw/fw. as i see, the only advantage is that it runs different os, if it is, but all the wm features will be already offered in htc dvices for sure. its just a new design, sg interesting for se fans. or se is still hiding sg, what we ll know later first. but atm what i read and see ( feature and menuwise) nothing really new ( except new design )
Posted by Tigershark42
People keep using the Buzz-phrase 'all the advantages of WM'. I personally dont see any advantages at all over UIQ; nothing which actually matters. Most 3rd party apps for WM are rip-offs, all it seems to do is have an awful UI and connect with outlook or something, but other than that I really dont see why its better. The discrepancies are usually not in WM's favour anyway. Further to this, WM is the last OS Id pick to make a multimedia phone because its too restricting on specs (only 65k colours, only 3.2 Mpx, not compatible with accelerometer, high power consumption in general, devices are bulkier due to required hardware etc). So why the F**k?
If they wanted to make a WM handset, then that's all well and good.
If they wanted to make a high performance multimedia handset, then thats all well and good.
But that they should be the same handset? Catastrophic decision.
Why oh why didnt they just use something similar to what they have for the G900/700 in the way of a UIQ touch optimized interface (more multimedia oriented), with accelerometer, better camera, Xenon flash, Opera 9, the works...THAT would be amazing. TBH the only plus to me is the slide out keyboard, and the specs youd expect as a minimum from a flagship multimedia device.
My point is that I dont care what OS it is; there is no value in having a different OS if at the end of the day it doesnt let the user do anything more useful than previously was possible. In a premium multimedia device, EVERY screen should be visually brilliant. Not just 9! It doesnt even seem to match a low end cyber-shot device on the camera front, or a low end Walkman device in the music department. SO how can you claim this to be a multimedia device? Remember that X1 is not solely for business users but also for the more technically inclined among us. Therefore it should not be running a poor update of an old OS. I dont really think the X1 meets consumer demands face on... Its probably more to do with SE expanding their portfolio; being able to say that theyve made a WM device now.
For these reasons it seems to me that the G900 is on the whole a far better solution in terms of specs than the X1 is. Forget specs, at least it has an OS that you wont just be putting up with! And at least it brings some form of finger touch UI to the SE portfolio- Now this is something useful as we will see more and more of it in the future, as this is the way the industry seems to be heading. I just hope the next X series or UIQ device is more fulfilling than the X1 seems to be. I know the G series already is.
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Posted by BobaFett
did u ever checked how many great and useful apps are offrede for wm? i just gave lately a try for it, 65k scren doesnt amaze me either, but thos apps and wm features are pretty good imo.
Posted by drgopoos
i totally agree with bob.. WM devices are really amazing (, But it not becoz of the quality of the OS .) The main reason for this is the availability of inneumerable no. of third party applications. I too was really surprised by the opputunites it offered.
Had UIQ been as open as WM to third party , WM would stand no where/
Posted by razec
semcblog says it will be out on 2009. does the windows OS the culprit of it's terrible delay? and somehow imo i believe they are. given that HTC and SE had been working throughout the Hardware and UI aspects of the device but the OS development itself depends on MS which is proven to be a fan of much delays.
Posted by tonyitalian
On 2008-02-29 02:06:04, Tigershark42 wrote:
For these reasons it seems to me that the G900 is on the whole a far better solution in terms of specs than the X1 is. Forget specs, at least it has an OS that you wont just be putting up with! And at least it brings some form of finger touch UI to the SE portfolio- Now this is something useful as we will see more and more of it in the future, as this is the way the industry seems to be heading. I just hope the next X series or UIQ device is more fulfilling than the X1 seems to be. I know the G series already is.
[ This Message was edited by: Tigershark42 on 2008-02-29 01:09 ]
Im beginning to think that the G900 is a better option as well if the x1 is gna come out next year. next yr will be too late for the x1, other devices with better specs wud be out n the x1 wud look outdated
Posted by >500
ill be 'very' surprised if it comes out next year.....
Posted by bavlondon2
So the X1 isnt going to be out till 2009 now?
WTH
Posted by PeterKay
On 2008-02-29 10:37:04, bavlondon2 wrote:
So the X1 isnt going to be out till 2009 now?
WTH
Q4 this year if all goes to plan.
Posted by razec
On 2008-02-29 11:21:29, PeterKay wrote:
On 2008-02-29 10:37:04, bavlondon2 wrote:
So the X1 isnt going to be out till 2009 now?
WTH
Q4 this year if all goes to plan.
We'll pray for that
Posted by BobaFett
one thing is sure:it will be out
fortunately se fans are usually very peaceful and faithful. that the big luck of se
for any interest:
http://www.phonemag.com/xperi[....]ne-spend-now-or-save-02943.php
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Posted by Karun
The super Sony Ericsson handset could be delayed till 2009??
Read here:
http://news.softpedia.com/new[....]t-Coming-This-Year-79940.shtml
or
here:
http://www.unwiredview.com/20[....]-xperia-x1-delayed-for-a-year/
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Posted by razec
The super Sony Ericsson handset could be delayed till 2009??
Yes indeed
and i strongly believe it's the MS WM OS that causes all these nasty things
Posted by Mizzle
Guys, it's not correct!!!
As I've said numerous times before, most of those dates are crap, including X1's release and expire dates.
I even commented on that certain blog post, but it was removed as Maximys can't open his eyes.
Posted by razec
On 2008-03-01 13:42:24, Mizzle wrote:
Guys, it's not correct!!!
As I've said numerous times before, most of those dates are crap, including X1's release and expire dates.
I even commented on that certain blog post, but it was removed as Maximys can't open his eyes.
So X1's release will be earlier than that? lets say Q4?
if so then..
Good to hear that!
Posted by technical-expert
If w380 is released on March of 3rd as per that list,then it could be true that X1 will be available on 2009.keep dreaming.lol
Not to forget P990 was delayed for almost a year and w960 for almost 6 months.and i too strongly believe its for 2009
Posted by bavlondon2
PK as its been announced now can you perhaps comment more on the interface. Is the animation more than just skin deep with just a plain WM interface underneath?
Posted by Maximys
Guys, please, see it:
http://semcblog.wordpress.com/2008/03/01/handy-info/
Posted by Mizzle
Maximys,
Being that this is a non-public site, this info is subject to change on daily basis. It contains errors, and some of the general info there is not true.