Posted by Scottishlassie
Okay, I have searched the threads and can't seem to find the answer that I am looking for. Is there a way to take a song off of my cd and convert it to a midi file? Does it require special software? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks :-}
Posted by ferrarista44
i'm not sure if this is the easiest way. but this is the only way i know.

CD > MP3 > WAV > MIDI.
there are rippers.
there are MP3-WAV converters.
there are WAV-MIDI converters.
all available out there, some trial versions, some free.

Posted by jbendaou
you can check: www.download.com just type in "midi converter" and you will see a list from where you can download what you want.
good luck
Posted by delarge
And you could just ripp it to wav and then convert it to midi, and skip the > mp3 > wav part

Posted by ferrarista44
oh yes, sorry about that.
though i saw that intelliscore software that does convert from MP3 to MIDI already.

the thing about converting to wav is that it generates a big file compared to ripping to MP3.

[ This Message was edited by: ferrarista44 on 2003-09-05 01:55 ]
Posted by deuxani
Come on people, forget about it!! You can convert it, yes, but trust me, your ears will hurt cause it will never ever sound anything like the original song!! All the good quality midi's on the internet are made with midi sequencers. Forget about converting, it's impossible.
Posted by wrath000
Actually they correct way would be CD->Wav->Midi. No need to stop at intermidiate mp3 format which takes time and decreases quality.
As deuxani said, the final result will sound nothing like the original. As a matter of fact, it wouldn't sound much like anything...
Posted by anonymous1
MIDI (musical instrument digital interface) isn't sound. All it is is binary code that triggers sound (from a sound module for example). So you can't covert wav files into midi.
Posted by Scottishlassie
Okay. I have half of the people saying yes I can do it and half saying no I can't do it. I am in no way familiar with converting cd music to wav and then to midi, are there any step by step directions on how to do this? Or is there some piece of software out there that I can just copy my cd music to and it will automatically convert it to midi? I really appreciate all of the help and input you knowledgable people are giving me!
Thanks :-}
Posted by apotts
Scottish lassie,
CD, WAV, and MP3 files all contain sound, that is the sound of the original song but in different file formats.
MIDI is like sheet music, just bits of paper with notes on. A midi player (like the T610) is like one of those automatic pianos - it just plays notes from sheet music, except it has a handful of fixed sounds (like piano, drums, sax and so on) that the notes can trigger.
So to create a MIDI, you need to write the sheet music, with maybe 8 or so tracks for the different instruments. Not easy if you're not an experienced musician!
You can get software that tries to listen to music, and guess what the notes are. As you can imagine the results are pretty poor.
Best to search around on the internet for the MIDI file of the song you want, edit it in a MIDI editing prog, then send it to your phone.
Andrew
Posted by M-Jay
Go to this site:
http://www.midi.org/about-midi/specinfo.shtml
The

Greetz,
M-Jay
[ This Message was edited by: M-Jay on 2003-09-06 09:05 ]
Posted by anonymous1
@apotts
Its not sheet music... like I explained in my previous post its binary information... just data. I know this shit cos I study Music Tech.
Posted by ESTOR
WAV/MP3 or anything on the computer is binary information/data, just like Midi

Here is something similar but infinitely simpler: Speach/Voice Recognization . Does it work? Barely. And that's only recognizing a single voice when you speak in a certain way. Furthermore, the program only writes out the words for you. It doesn't read it out mimicking your voice and tone.
WAV/MP3 -> Midi is recognizing MULTIPLE voices (different musical instruments), and after recognition, it has to PLAY BACK the music with the exact tempo (varying speeds), varying degrees of loudness. That's why it's lousy.
Posted by Cycovision
@anonymous1
With respect, what does your binary data represent when sent to a midi interpretor? Instrument names, note lengths, rests and so on. In effect then, midi can be compared to sheet music in that it is a set of instructions rather than true digitally sampled sound. I accept that the analogy is not quite correct, but the rest of the posters here are simply trying to explain it in non technical terms.
So to re-iterate what everybody else has been saying, converting CD based music to midi is not impossible, it just doesn't work very well because TRUE midi music (.mid format, not .it or .mod format) has a limited number of 'instruments' that can be used. It's rather like a kiddie's musical keyboard, you get 200 different sounds or so to play with and that's it! This means that when your computer 'listens' to the CD (or .wav file, whatever), it has to choose the closest match from the instruments available on the list to try and represent what it's hearing.
As others have mentioned, there's also the issue of timing the notes and rests properly. Again, computers aren't very good at sussing this out just by 'listening' to a CD. All of the good ringtones that you hear were created from scratch by musicians using keyboards linked to computers that are running a type of software known as 'Trackers'.
So if you want your favourite song as a ringtone, you basically have two choices:
1. Wait for one of the many ringtone vendors to release it, or
2. Get a tracker program and make it yourself!
Trackers are not the easiest programs to get the hang of (I know, I've been using them for around six years!) but it can be good fun playing around with them non the less. There's an excellent free tracker called 'Modplug Tracker' available on the net. You can download it here. You don't need a musical keyboard to use it, a mouse and PC keyboard will do.
Incidentally, Modplug Tracker is also excellent for editing midi ringtones. Have fun

Posted by Church Decorator
there is NO WAY a wav file can be converted to a MIDI file !! you are crazy if you think there is!!
trackers are so oldskool man !!!!! cubase + vsts is the way to go - plus of course you can use it to make ringtones hehe
[ This Message was edited by: Church Decorator on 2003-12-09 07:14 ]
Posted by Cycovision
I thought cubase was just an advanced tracker? It does pretty much the same thing when composing midi's, doesn't it? Mind you, I've only ever used an old version of cubase light but it was certainly very similar to a tracker!
The point i'm making is that to my knowledge you can't use sampled sounds in a .mid file because they get substituted for standard midi instruments during the export process. If cubase can get round that somehow, then PLEASE GET ME A COPY lol
Posted by verysoon
technically, yes u can vonvert mp3 or wav to midi files...... technically
the file format & hehaviour of the newly generated file is that of midi...
but... but.... u might as well deleted it straight away. those who did try would understand what i m tryingto say. the others? just try.... only once will be enuff.
cheers!