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Posted by exaflare23
Guys post your opinions about my GPRS activity in SE phones

Story below

most SE phones have the earth icon when you are using your GPRS (e.g. using operamini browser) or using your built-in browser, but after 5-10 seconds the icon disappeared, im new in SE phone i bought my k800i last month so i just thought it was normal in SE phone,

but few weeks later i read some forums about SE phones then i found out that it was suspected that your GPRS activity or connection was stopped or disconnected if the earth icon disappeared so if you click or go to another page your GPRS will start to reconnect again and will have a delayed going to the next page compared to a connected GPRS.

so far my k800i works fine even that icon disappeared it takes 2-4 seconds to change to another page, i just want to clarify if that is a problem or its just a normal in SE phones.

sorry for my lame english.


Posted by StevenC
If you have a wap (http) connection, then it will disconnect when idle. Internet (socket) doesn't disconnect.

Posted by litemint
Kuya exa, just lyk what steph said.

socket connection is an open connection, so the icon stays there, while the http based, it is only open when you send a command over the server,onced queried,the connection closes.

i think when your using the builtin browser, its like socket, i guess it depends on the trick used, like ssl cgi, php proxy, and glype.

my nose is bleeding, heheh

Posted by chuaherson
the'earth' icon will only appear if your browser is connecting. (E.g. When you open a new page on your browser)

Posted by exaflare23
guys thanks for your opinions

but can we get rid of it? so that we'll have a continous connection.

Posted by chuaherson
It will disconnect automatically as soon as the page is completely loaded.

And it will connect asap when you open a new link.

IMHO, theres no way we get rid of it.

Anyway the connection doesnt interrupted does it?

Posted by exaflare23
i discovered a trick to make the icon stay but i don't know if it will affect the disconnection,

example:

im downloading using my built-in and browsing w/opera mini of course the icon will stay as long as the download completes but i can't tell if the opera mini connection stopped or disconnected,maybe bcoz that icon is for the activity of the built-in browser thats why it stays,but thats not really my discovery.

Posted by chuaherson
When you are downloading on your default browser and using your Opera, the connection will not stop on Opera. Its like having two connections at the same time.

Posted by exaflare23

On 2009-12-22 07:29:00, chuaherson wrote:
When you are downloading on your default browser and using your Opera, the connection will not stop on Opera. Its like having two connections at the same time.


are you sure?

review the posts above

anyway thats not important because i already figured it out haha! this icon disappearing is not a problem weee!

Posted by chuaherson
it is based on what im experiencing right now.


In the first place, it is not really a problem!

Posted by Tsepz_GP
My K850 does the same thing, not a problem at all,since it still loads the next page quickly,but i do think it would've made more sense to keep the connection on. On my S60 regardless of HTTP or Socket the connection stays until i either close the app or end the connection via Conn. mgr. Or by pressing and holding the red button in Stand By.

Posted by Bonovox
Yes it does that when using Opera too

Posted by exaflare23
this icon disappearing is not a problem at all

example like a desktop browser internet explorer theres a window icon in top right corner of the page, whenever you make a command either you go to another page or just refreshing the page the icon there is waving well it means an activity but after the page was loaded it stops waving, well it means idle

like in SE phones if the icon remains it means theres a GPRS activity going on, if it disappeared it means idle, thats why i don't feel the delayed if its really disconnected and reconnects again whenever you go to another page.

Posted by ceaser2008
Last couple of days, i am facing this problem in connecting the gprs. When i try to connect, the globe appears and blinks, but then it shows error saying 'connection failure. Try again or contact your service provider' in default browser or 'unable to connect' in operamini. Now i will have to wait till that globe disappear. Then again when i try to connect, there are chances that it might connects or might not. Once it connects, i can surf till that globe disappear. But once it gone, again it is not sure that it would connect again.

I have already complaint to my provider. They are trying their best to solve it. Meantime, i have flashed my phone and formatted my memory card, but still i am facing this. I have noticed that my sim card has bent a little. Is this causing problem?

Any views pls?

Posted by Cyborg_a0
I really like your topics author
there is just one thing that i notice, i know you are all here so peace, i'm using a nokia an s60 one, there were two ip carrier available in a network and they are switching randomly.
i will site them
globe telecom and
globe telecom/innove

we here are using a trick of course my co filipino knew it, in globe telecom carrier we can't use that trick but in globe telecom/innove the trick is working very well.

So here's my point now, in nokia when you do a connection the icon G boxes, it means you are now connected, assuming that i connected to globe telecom/innove, i can surf, as long as the G is in the box i can still surf. As i have said before that ip carrier is switching randomly, but i can only experience that when i disconnected the connection meaning unboxxing the G icon. Does this mean that in nokia when the G icon boxes has a continous connection to our network?

Posted by exaflare23
@cyborg

i have nokia n5300 and im not here to counter your belief,

it doesn't mean that the G icon boxes your connection is continious its just an indicator that your gprs is in used but compare to SE the boxed G still remains even in idle,and i know you will ask me how do i figured it out?

use bolt browser any version will do and you will find out exactly what i meant.


Posted by Cyborg_a0
yes i experience the disconnection when i do have the s40, but i said it's on s60 mate, yes it's on idle state when i'm not clicking but and a big BUT i would'nt be redirected in another ip carrier of globe EVEN if i was on idle state, STILL the ip carrier won't change, unless the G unboxes.

Posted by exaflare23
i've encounter many types of s60s and some types of s60s don't have the G when using browser application instead an antenna icon with 3G sign if 3G is in used,and the boxed G appeared in the built-in browser but the icon is just the same as what s40s icon function, anyway i think thats not very important and im curious about your idea in IP carrier swapping.


can you tell us about that IP carrier and please make an elaborate explanation about it if you don't mind, and how did you figured it out? how can i figured it out? how can we tell if the ip carrier that were using had already swapped? im not saying that your lying i just want to experienced it too..

im the kind of person that doesn't satified from what i've read im not just buying what other peoples belief instead im doing some experiments to experience it too.

oh before i push the post button

please don't answer me with others post or experience, i want your own explanation and experience.


Posted by Cyborg_a0
Me and excalibur69 already discuss about ip carrier in aquared's thread i thougt you read about it or because you ain't fun of reading, i already said IN my S60 meaning that I EXPERIENCE it, if you don't have s60 phone you won't able to see it, this is how you will notice between the switching of IP CARRIER, they didn't even notice why sometimes they were redirected in free site but sometimes not.

Use your om
also open your Connection Manager

in your om use space trick
now visit this site
pinoywap.net
below you will see your ip carrier.
Assuming its Globe Telecom

now goto your Connection Manager to disconnect your connection.

Now connect again to your om reload pinoywap.net if your ip carrier is still same repeat the disconnection and connect until you will see that your IP CARRIER changes to Globe Telecom/Innove
BTW this for GLOBE NETWORK.

In globe network sometimes they were redirected to freesite when using php trick, WHY?
Because php trick isn't working in Globe Telecom carrier.

But sometimes they are not redirected to freesite when using php, WHY?
Because php trick is working in Globe Telecom/Innove.

Pity on those who doesn't know why they were redirected in free site and sometimes not.

Posted by exaflare23
actually i just read some of your conversations but not all, anyway i'll try it.

qestion: what trick will i use if the carrier is switch to the globe telecom? for example my trick didn't work so is that mean that my ip carrier got switched? Tell me a trick that i will use in case,so i will be able to check if my carrier got switch.

Posted by Cyborg_a0
I already mention it use space trick, oh, don't use any cgi, just plain reverse ip trick, space trick is working on both ip carrier, so you will see the two ip carrier, just do the process that i gave. I swear to you man there two ip carrier of globe, you will see it. And to prove that ip trick isn't working in Globe Telecom, if you seen your ip carrier is Globe Telecom, edit your om server take off the space voila failed to connect, and if your ip carrier was Innove even if you take the space out you still can connect, tried and tested for 1month observation.

optional procedure:
switch to KB browsing and also your load must be zero hehe just to assure because some sims are fb.

Posted by exaflare23
i'll try it as soon as my new nokia 6120c comes

Posted by Cyborg_a0
Oh no, i forgot to tell you i don't know if space trick is working on s60v3 phones, only tested on s60v2 phones.

Posted by exaflare23
how about n70?

Posted by Cyborg_a0
Yup, n70 is s60v2 so it will definetly gonna work.

Posted by litemint
Now i can't stand no more on these nosebleeding conversation.

im using n3100 and globe tatoo sim, i can only browse using the builtin browser with ssl cgi trick, on my observation, the gprs icon appear and make itself comfortable by going to the box(on the left side), then the globe guy continously circling(on the right side), when it finishes the loading of the page,the globe thingy dissappear,while the G boxed icon stays.

heheh,n0w, this is what i called saw saw. Whihi.


Posted by exaflare23
litemint my 2nd mentor

gosh! i lost 1 liter of blood just reading your post

drained from my nose

Posted by kawaii

pinoy rules
look at your post counter,
it zooming fast


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