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mswallis
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Posted: 2004-05-27 01:07
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Have just been reading the whitepaper for the S700 and it states on page 21 that the S700 will use regular Memory Stick Duos so the limit is still 128MB. So the man in the video from CeBit must have been wrong when he said 1GB memory sticks. With the camera being 1.3 Mega Pixels, this will soon fill the Memory Stick as the images will take up more space.

What are you doing Sony Ericsson, why is it still only 128MB - Why?
I don't know about the rest of you guys but i think this really sucks, I just can't see why they can't implement the Pro Duos into their new phones!
Superluminova
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Posted: 2004-05-27 01:10
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maybe sony won't let them?
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mswallis
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Posted: 2004-05-27 01:12
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Then Sony would just be fooling themselves. They could make more money by allowing the Duo Pros to be used.
etaab
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Posted: 2004-05-27 01:19
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I dont see it as a problem. The S700 isnt a smartphone, so it doesnt need that much memory for things the P900 would use the extra memory for, such as apps.

But for pictures 128mb is just fine. I know if i set my Sony Cyber-Shot camera to 1.3mp setting, i can take 202 pictures per 128mb memory stick (fine detail), and 375 pictures in standard mode...

So, 128mb to store at least 200-375 pictures at 1.3mp resolution isnt enough for you ?

Come on - its not that bad !

Also, with the falling prices of 128mb Duo sticks (i know a place that sells them for £43 GBP) its fairly easy to get your hands on more sticks whenever you'd need them !
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masseur
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Posted: 2004-05-27 07:36
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this has been commented on a few times and I cannot figure out why they keep holding back on pro support. It should have been there for the P900 and definitly should be there for 2004 models. it just doesn't make sense.

regarding memory stick prices, I have a couple of 256mb duo pro now for my digital camera and they cost me around 65 pounds each so cost per megabyte compared with the best 128mb duo prices is much better.

I really scratch my head at this issue because regardless of whether S700 is a smartphone or not, and reading through the available technical specs etc, I cannot see why they continue to enforce this limit of 128mb
gelfen
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Posted: 2004-05-27 07:46
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probably because they make more from the 128 on a money per MB basis. by forcing you to buy multiple 128s they are making more money than if you bought a single 256, 512 or 1GB.
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masseur
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Posted: 2004-05-27 07:57
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I think there has to be more to it than that, and you would think they would be happy to rid themselves of the stupid and embarrasing 128mb limitation because everytime a product comes out that only accepts duo they further highlight the design limitations and lack of forethought they gave to that format
gelfen
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Posted: 2004-05-27 08:03
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corporate beaurocracy works in mysterious ways......

in reality it's probably the result of some stupid, short-sighted exclusivity agreement signed when ericsson and sony first hopped into bed with each other - before the technology potential was fully realised - and we just have to wait for the agreement term to lapse or be renegotiated.
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masseur
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Posted: 2004-05-27 08:06
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if thats the case then there is nothing like cutting off your nose to spite your face because pretty much anyone can go to www.memorystick.org and if they can fullfil the licence agreements they can become a memory stick licencee, hmmm
gelfen
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Posted: 2004-05-27 08:19
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it probably made sense at the time if, for instance, SE got the licencing for a song and sonycorp looked at it as a guaranteed market.
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Posted: 2004-05-27 08:22
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I'm with you though... I'm baffled why they hang on to this sttoooopid 128MB restriction and why they never bothered with pro support

Doesn't strike me as a good competitive strategy at all
masseur
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Posted: 2004-05-27 08:23
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well I guess we'll never really know, but lets just hope for 2005 models they wake up to themselves
Scally_cadet
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Posted: 2004-05-27 08:23
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The problem is as we need better memory SE will fall behide. Look at the MPx200, it can take a 1GB SD card. For business user who wants all his files in one place and is like to lose memory cards they are likely to past over the P900 and choose something else.

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Arne Anka
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Posted: 2004-05-27 11:27
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There are actually no 1 GB MS DUO PRO. For 2004 following sizes are released for MS:

- 512 MS DUO PRO
- 1 GB MS PRO (MS with bigger dimension).

I don't know if any of those are released yet, but concidering the late release I would not expect any MS DUO PRO phones from SE until next year. Yeah, they are slow, but I guess as long as their phones sell well they are in no hurry to introduce MS DUO PRO on their phones.
etaab
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Posted: 2004-05-27 12:51
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So are you honestly telling me you would really need more than 128mb in an S700 ? for what ? unless of course Java 3D games started to become really complex taking up lots of Mb's instead of a few Kb's like T610 games..

The S700 is a cameraphone, 128mb for a 1.3mp camera sounds fine to me, id be perfectly happy with it.

The only reason you'd need higher memory in a cameraphone would be to listen to MP3's.. but if you're going to listen to Mp3's, buy an iPod !

I think if you want more memory in a phone, go buy a Nokia 6600 or 7610 instead of moaning about SE's decisions.

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