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cu015170
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On 2013-09-27 17:34:45, moogoo wrote:
what's that cu015170? is that some hopeful thinking i see? 
i think it's funny you come to the Z1 thread to criticize photos and talk down the rumor/hope that the camera has great potential and will be made much better with software updates when here you are, saying the same thing about 1020 while posting a random sample just to prove your point. there are much better Z1 samples out there, yet you choose to ignore it? why's that? tsk tsk.
They are both limited by their sensors.. one of them has a much bigger sensor, and I think that the 1020 is underperforming due to jpeg processing/white balance issues. It still won't be able to beat the 808.. regardless of how many updates they push out. It has inferior imaging hardware.
The same can be applied to the z1 vs 1020 argument. In the Z1 thread you mentioned that the Z1 can be amazing after a software update, but no matter what they do.. it won't be able to beat the 1020 for the same reason the 1020 can't beat the 808.
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Sonysta
Joined: May 25, 2013
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In comparisons !
Z1 is an excellent smartphone que has a good camera (the best since the C901), but at this stage does not have any condition to compete against the 1020 and Especially the 80 8!
The competitor is the Z1 Zoom S4 and yet in some situations (night shots), the Samsung cameraphone is better !
That's the truth !
PS: Currently 1020 only is lower than the N8 NSeries and 808 PureView ! |
Bonovox
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No that's YOUR truth not fact. The Sony can compete against it. I have seen many images from the Z1 from my friend who has it that are as good as the Nokia 1020. Your just blind
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lemmy31
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Well my good lady has used her upgrade for a Lumia 1020 for me which I got today. Unfortunately she was too late to get the free accessory kit that goes with it.........still I really shouldn't complain  I have three charging plates anyway and my wireless shell will hopefully be here tomorrow
Just setting it up as we speak. First impressions are good. Usual solid Nokia build quality and no creaking from the body like the 920 suffered from slightly. The 2gb of ram really makes a big difference from the initial setup speed to installing and loading apps and games.
Ill have more time over the weekend to experiment with the camera and other features.
I have no idea whether it'll be a better camera than the Z1, GS4 or Galaxy Zoom. The important things for me are that its a Nokia, has a great camera and doesn't run Android ( and that last comment is not meant to cause any offence I just cannot stand the whole Google monopoly era we are in )
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Bonovox
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Congrats hope you enjoy it If you cannot afford a Lumia 1020 you could always get a bridge camera for £39
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fbloise
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Lulz, that cheap!!
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moogoo
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@cu - yes.. within the laws of physics, in a perfect world with the best software, Z1 < 1020 < 808. that's just the way it is. i just thought it's funny cause you seemed to knock down claims that the Z1 could get improved while you preach the 1020 could here.
moogoo
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cu015170
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On 2013-09-27 21:32:40, moogoo wrote:
@cu - yes.. within the laws of physics, in a perfect world with the best software, Z1 < 1020 < 808. that's just the way it is. i just thought it's funny cause you seemed to knock down claims that the Z1 could get improved while you preach the 1020 could here.
Of course it can get improved.. just don't expect it to beat the Nokia's |
Bonovox
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GE is an American company
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etaab
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On 2013-09-27 01:45:41, false_morel wrote:
And you seem to agree with me on this point. So why going in circles? It seems pretty clear to me.
Its the others who appear to be going around in circles with us. I think they all have the capability to take brilliant pictures, but these companies limit them for their own reasons. The 1020 is limited to make it appealing to the masses. The Z1 is limited by poor Sony camera software and a few hardware disadvantages. That Z1 image appears to be the same as the rest, sharp in the centre and terribly blurred in the other 75% of the image.
@ moogoo - I saw two people today with Sony Z or Z1s, not that I could tell the difference ! Sony seem to be getting popular. Two people in a group of about 30 in the pub celebrating someones leaving party. The rest were Galaxy S or iPhones.
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moogoo
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@etaab - well sony has the advantage of android and a more stylish design (subjective). but yah. it seems that since the Z, sony has been gaining more popularity. even here in the US. and they do look very similar.. Z vs. Z1.
moogoo
Nokia 5160 -> Nokia 8260 -> SE T68i -> SE K700i -> SE Z710 -> SE Xperia X10a -> Sony Xperia S -> Sony Xperia Z1 -> Sony Xperia XZ -> Sony Xperia XZ Premium -> Sony Xperia 1ii
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cu015170
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Z1 looks way better.. its just a little too big for me, the z1 mini should be very nice as well |
false_morel
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It's as if DPreview heard me saying they do no comparisons..
http://connect.dpreview.com/post/4485507296/shootout-sonyxperiaz1-vs-nokia1020-vs-lgg2-vs-samsunggalaxys4zoom?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_2
Very brief and quick comparison.
Why can't someone simply put a high-end compact along side these bunch of cameraphones?!
And too little photos and scenes.. Leaving on auto and full resolution with 1020..
In all these online reviews and comparisons, the full manual mode in the 1020 is very underestimated!
One could work wonders with it!
Even with my 920 I get photos that the phones would never come close getting by itself!
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cu015170
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"The 1020 only struggled in our night shot. We took 30 shots with the Nokia but the shutter speed in such a dark environment was just too slow to get even a single 100% sharp image. In those situations we recommend upping the ISO manually in order to achieve a faster shutter speed. As we've already pointed out in our full review, the Nokia's performance can occasionally feel a little sluggish."
Hm, I wonder what would happen if you put it on a tripod.. is it still going to go as slow as 1/9th ? I think 1/20th or even 1/30th with higher ISO should be fine.
[i]The Sony Xperia Z1 also offers very high resolution results, but suffers from noise and artifacts at all ISO settings.[/i]
Right, I am not sure why that is tho.. even at 50iso.. and I am puzzled by these small white specks in some images..
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Bonovox
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It's an eye and a tree trunk 
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