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cu015170
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Posted: 2013-05-17 18:02
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Specs:

http://storage.afterdawn.net/nokia-lumia-1020.pdf

White Paper: http://i.nokia.com/blob/view/[....]a/1/-/Lumia1020-whitepaper.pdf




Technical profile
• Operating system: Windows Phone 8
• Networks: GSM: 850 MHz, 900 MHz, 1800 MHz, 1900 MHz, WCDMA: 2100 MHz, 1900 MHz, 850 MHz, 900 MHz, LTE network bands: 1, 3, 7, 20, 8
• Speed: HSPA+: DL Cat 24, dual carrier 42.1 Mbps/UL Cat6 5.76Mbps
• HERE location and mapping service; free global HERE Maps and HERE Drive+, free HERE transit available in the store
• Memory: 2GB RAM, 32GB internal user memory; 7GB SkyDrive cloud storage
• Display: 4.5’’ AMOLED WXGA (1280x768), 2.5D sculpted Corning Gorilla Glass 3, PureMotion HD+, Clear Black, high brightness mode, sunlight readability, Super Sensitive Touch for nail and glove usage, Nokia Glance Screen
• Processor: 1.5GHz dual-core Snapdragon S4
• Camera: PureView 41MP sensor with Optical Image Stabilization (OIS), backside-illuminated image sensor, 6-lens ZEISS optics, high resolution zoom 3x, autofocus, xenon Flash, LED for video, 1080p video at 30fps. Includes Nokia Pro Camera app and Nokia Smart Camera app. Secondary camera: HD 1.2 MP wide angle
• Size: 130.4x71.4x10.4 mm, Weight: 158 g
• Connectivity: USB2.0, BT 3.0, NFC with SIM based security, WLAN a/b/g/n, A-GPS and Glonass, 3.5 mm audio connector
• Battery: 2000 mAh battery, wireless charging supported via accessory cover
• Audio: IHF speakers, 2 microphones, Nokia Rich Recording, HD voice compliant, 3.5mm AV connector


VS the 808


On 2013-07-11 22:03:40, Sonysta wrote:
Side By Side Nokia 808 Pureview (Phase 1) Vs Nokia Lumia 1020 Pureview (Phase 3):

* Optical Assembly: 808 (Zeiss Vario Tessar Wide Angle 26 mm) Vs 1020 (Zeiss Vario Tessar Wide Angle 25 mm)

* Construction Lens: 808 (5 Elements, 1 Group. All Lens Surfaces Are Aspherical) Vs 1020 (System Of 6 Lenses, 5 Plastic Molded High Performance Plastic, One High Precision Glass Element)

* F-Number: 808 (f/2.3984375) Vs 1020 (f/2.2)

* Focus Range: 808 (15 Cm - Infinity) Vs 1020 (15 Cm - Infinity)

* Iso Sensitivity: 808 (50 - 1600) Vs 1020 (100 - 3200)

* Shutter Speed: 808 (Min: (2,7s) / Max: (1/2747s) Vs 1020 (Min: (4s) / Max: (1/16000s)

* Flash: 808 (Xenon (3rd Generation) And Led (2rd Generation) Vs 1020 (Xenon (3rd Generation) And Led (2rd Generation)

* Reach In Shooting Of Flash: 808 (Up To 4 Meters) Vs 1020 (Up To 3 Meters)

* Sensor: 808 (CMOS FSI) Vs 1020 (CMOS BSI)

* Format: 808 (1/1.2”) Vs 1020 (1/1.5")

* Surface: 808 (10,67 x 8,00mm) Vs 1020 ( 9,00 X 7,00mm)

* Image Stabilization: 808 (Digital) Vs 1020 (Optical Barrel Shift)

* Mechanical Shutter: 808 (Yes) Vs 1020 (Yes)

* Pixel Size: 808 (38 MP (1.4 Microns) / 8 MP (3.07 Microns) / 5 Megapixels (3.91 Microns) / 3 MP (4.89 Microns) Vs 1020 (38 MP (1.12 Microns) / 5 Megapixels (3.20 Microns)

* Total Pixel Are Used: 808 (7728 x 5368 - 41.4 MP) Vs 1020 (7712 x 5360 - 41.3 MP)

* Maximum Effective Resolution: 808 (7728 x 4354 For (16:9) / 7152 x 5368 For (4:3) Vs 1020 (7712 x 4352 For (16:9) / 7136 x 5360 For (4:3)

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etaab
Nokia N8
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Posted: 2013-05-17 22:56
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Just a smidge of confirmation from Nokia this is actually true would keep me happy. But at the minute, I don't like listening to rumours.

That mock up with the white rear is nice although looks a bit too chunky.
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Bonovox
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Posted: 2013-05-17 23:29
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I love Nokia!!!!! They will make it!! Am unsure but Nokia is testing 2 different versions of this possible handset. One is Quad Core the other dual core. But if it's quad core then that cannot be until Microsoft pull their finger out and release their next OS update to be able to support quad core and 1080p screens. Not that we need 1080p screens but I think the current Windows phone software limits image quality so I read. The next Nokia Amber update on WP is going to provide higher image quality with new software algorithims.
Phone?? What phone??
etaab
Nokia N8
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Posted: 2013-05-18 14:09
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If that's all we're waiting for - for Microsoft to pull their finger out then they're wasting valuable sales. They could put the camera tech into a 920 and release it. Then later down the line upgrade the rest of the specs.

Im sure the camera alone would be a brilliant USP to use against Android phones and iOS.
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cu015170
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Posted: 2013-05-18 15:32
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^ yes.

I said this months ago.. the Phase 1 system is a sophisticated combination of hardware optimization and software, it will NOT be easy to port it over to any other OS, since it was designed with an Real-Time OS (Symbian) in mind. It was only a speculation, but as time goes by, its becoming clear that they can't do it.. at least not in an economical kind of way.

In fact, they had a better chance of porting this faster to Windows CE (WP7) than Windows NT (WP8).

I am really happy that they managed to get the xenon to work on NT (928) .. at least that is a step in the right direction.

From here, its all about Microsoft.. they need to provide the platform for the Phase 1 system to work properly. At this point the whole strategy switch is not making any sense.. they are in the same boat they were before the switch: not being able to use top spec hardware, which is what sells phones these days.

At least with their own platforms, they had full control, and we got unique phones like the Nokia N9, and the 808.. which is proving to be a pretty amazing device overall.

So.. best case scenario will be end of 2013 for a true 808 replacement, at least in terms of camera tech.
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Bonovox
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Posted: 2013-05-18 16:40
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That's what someone else said on the web that should be by end of 2013. It's a shame we have to wait on MS but they have said the next update will be in the summer months fingers crossed. It's a shame Nokia is kinda restricted by MS. Nokia is actually adding it's own features on Windows phone all the time to improve experience and like in the next Nokia Amber update will improve image quality in all Lumia devices with better software. It will also bring the Smart Camera app to all Lumia's too. To me it's like Nokia owns Windows phone like Samsung owns Android. It's also a shame that these days most manufacturers are now using an OS which is not their own so they have not much control. Does anyone think this Pureview tech would have been easier on Android or NOT?? Just a query as i have no idea

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etaab
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Posted: 2013-05-19 23:39
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I have no idea, I cant imagine it being all that hard to implement in WP. People talk about its limitations, but im sure a clever company like Nokia could find a work around.

I just hope whatever they do announce regarding this EOS if it exists at all, its camera is better than the 808. I would be pretty annoyed if they released another cameraphone like the 920 which has a Pureview labelled camera, but not actually a proper Pureview camera module like the 808.

I suppose its a bit like when Aston Martin released their best car, then a year or two later a car which was cheaper than the one that had been out so long with less power. If you've got some great high tech stuff up your sleeves at least stick it in the best product you can manage at the time. The 808 was probably the best Symbian phone ever made so rightfully got their best camera.
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Posted: 2013-05-27 10:05
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The latest rumor is that the phone is 41Mpix, no info on oversampling..

A major US carrier has picked up the phone.

Nokia will show the phone at Microsoft's build conference in San Francisco.
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Posted: 2013-05-27 13:33
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On 2013-05-27 10:05:54, cu015170 wrote:
The latest rumor is that the phone is 41Mpix, no info on oversampling..

A major US carrier has picked up the phone.

Nokia will show the phone at Microsoft's build conference in San Francisco.


Wow this sounds like exciting news indeed, I'm looking forward to this one.
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Bonovox
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Posted: 2013-05-27 14:13
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How can a major US carrier pick up the EOS when it's not even announced yet??
Phone?? What phone??
cu015170
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Posted: 2013-05-27 16:54
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On 2013-05-27 14:13:00, Bonovox wrote:
How can a major US carrier pick up the EOS when it's not even announced yet??



Everything happens way in advance.. the US carriers tend to test each device for their network before they announce.
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Bonovox
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Posted: 2013-05-27 19:29
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Oh yeah I know that but my info was that this will not be out till autumn or maybe even early next year. maybe my info is wrong but I do know Nokia is working on it yes. I just hope Nokia doesn't make similar mistake as with the 808 not selling it on the high street.
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etaab
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Posted: 2013-05-27 23:42
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On 2013-05-27 14:13:00, Bonovox wrote:
How can a major US carrier pick up the EOS when it's not even announced yet??



Eh ? the carriers are the first to find out usually and they keep it very secret. Which is why companies like Samsung are able to announce their phones in such elaborate style and then tell the media the phone will be available in which countries and on which carriers. Its all planned in advance.
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Posted: 2013-05-28 20:41
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Nov-Oct release ... which means that we might indeed see an announcement later in the summer, possibly the MS build conference.

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Posted: 2013-05-28 21:07
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Phone?? What phone??
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