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Do not buy the new Nokia N8 if you´re keen on Night Photography |
Bonovox
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@mriley i agree with you 100% on that point about getting a proper camera. Come on guys you are expecting too much. Even most compact cameras out there struggle in low light its hard to get low light perfect. Expecting miracle night shots on a phone is radical. There is no doubt the N8 is the best camera phone so far produced but if you are whole heartedly serious about photography a mobile phone is simply not the way to go. I have taken some good night shots with a phone most come out poor but who cares if you cannot get long exposure light trails. For me as long as daytime shots and flash shots come out decent and i can at least take a clear night shot i care not for light trails and again i say you are expecting too much. Just enjoy it for what it does do best 
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exaflare23
Joined: May 21, 2009
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On 2010-10-29 17:52:25, boy.in.PINK wrote:
Just accept the fact that the N8 is not meant for capturing photos with motion blur. Even my N82 can't, but my former  G502 can.
And the fast shutter will be my another definite reason of buying a N8. I really don't like blurred shots.
My statement above is only my humble opinion and doesn't meant to offend anybody.
Stick to Satio my friend since I observed that 's can have slow shutters. 
N82 can
anyway about the N8 hmm..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[....]996794525/meta/in/photostream/
what is the setting did damian used? is it auto? nightmode? because if its nightmode then why its not written in the exif.
we all know that Nightmode setting in camera phones was the only way to have longer shutter speed then it should be written in the exif in link above and if you'll read carefully the title of the picture was "Taken during the developement" so it means that time the N8 was not fully developed. I think lets wait for the N8 users to post there pictures with Nightmode settings then lets check its exif data.
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Vit
Joined: Nov 13, 2007
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On 2010-10-29 18:35:00, Bonovox wrote:
@mriley i agree with you 100% on that point about getting a proper camera. Come on guys you are expecting too much. Even most compact cameras out there struggle in low light its hard to get low light perfect. Expecting miracle night shots on a phone is radical. There is no doubt the N8 is the best camera phone so far produced but if you are whole heartedly serious about photography a mobile phone is simply not the way to go. I have taken some good night shots with a phone most come out poor but who cares if you cannot get long exposure light trails. For me as long as daytime shots and flash shots come out decent and i can at least take a clear night shot i care not for light trails and again i say you are expecting too much. Just enjoy it for what it does do best
I am not expecting too much. Who on earth would expect Nokia to come up with a 1/1.83" sensor?
If they´ve coped with that HW challange, why on earth they can´t do that ridiculous SW change to the camera?
That makes no sense at all.
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boy.in.PINK
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Then have both! The N8 at day and the Satio at night!
Me too, I'm totally agree with mriley. But the bottomline is, don't persuade somebody's decisions. Don't persuade people from buying the N8 just because of the fast shutter. Most of mobile phone users wants such speedy shutter for taking personal or casual potraits.
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AbuBasim
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On 2010-10-29 16:29:06, Vit wrote:
If it manages to output good pictures @ higher ISO speeds, imagine what it would do @ lower ISO speeds.
And I am not only talking about the noise either.
I´m talking about the effects we can obtain with longer exposure times:
See the light trails? That´s simply not possible with an N8.
Longer exposures... like 4 seconds at ISO 50?
Still four years later there is no camphone beating the i-mobile 902 on low light photos.
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Vit
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On 2010-10-29 19:01:32, AbuBasim wrote:
Still four years later there is no camphone beating the i-mobile 902 on low light photos.
[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2010-10-29 18:02 ]
Imagine how good would it be to have just that on the N8... That´s what I am talking about. Lower noise levels, higher dynamic range, higher colour saturation...
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Bonovox
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Sorry who made the i-mobile??
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Vit
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On 2010-10-29 18:47:22, boy.in.PINK wrote:
Then have both! The N8 at day and the Satio at night!
Me too, I'm totally agree with mriley. But the bottomline is, don't persuade somebody's decisions. Don't persuade people from buying the N8 just because of the fast shutter. Most of mobile phone users wants such speedy shutter for taking personal or casual potraits.
OMG! Having two 500+ US Dollars devices at the same time? I like cameraphones, but not that much. My money is hardly earned...
Besides that, I am not persuading anybody to do anything...
I know that a great amount of people here like shots taken with longer exposure times. That´s it.
SE´s phones have educated us in a different way. Many of us got spoiled by it.
I am not making a brainwash. People around here are grown up and capable of making their own decisions.
On 2010-10-29 19:04:58, Bonovox wrote:
Sorry who made the i-mobile??
I-mobile is the brand name. That model is a C902, and it carries a Sony 5Mpixel CCD inside it. I´ve had one of these, too.
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AbuBasim
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On 2010-10-29 19:04:58, Bonovox wrote:
Sorry who made the i-mobile??
Manufactured by Asus but branded by Samart, a Thai company.
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etaab
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Vit, arent you forgetting that this is simply a case of the phone out of the box does not support the software function ?
Its a bit harsh to start a thread titled DO NOT BUY THE N8..
Like i said in the other thread, the hardware is there im sure, its just software that does not support it. But then why would it ? Nokia probably didnt think people seriously would buy the N8 to perform such low light photography. I bet it never occured to them.
If you were keen on the N8, id still get it, then on the Nokia developers forum start a thread asking someone to create an app for it, just like the panorama app that is already available on the Ovi store.
I dont see the point in complaining. Its like me complaining that the N8 does not do slow motion video capture like many other handsets especially from LG, but if the manufacturer has no idea its a wanted feature they're not likely to explore it or even think about it. I suggest if you did want the N8, i would seriously go down to Nokia developers forum and ask !
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AbuBasim
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^^^ A manufacturer that doesn't base their products on research are bound to fail. They just put in the features they like themselves without any concern about what their customers would be interested in? LOL!
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etaab
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But then surely every manufacturer would be doomed to the same fate ?
Which other cameraphone manufacturers release phones capable of what Vit asks ? none !
The only reason other phones might be capable of such artistic night pictures where the N8 is not is down to their inferior hardware and / or software. This is a rather silly thing to moan about considering this is a cameraphone, not a dedicated DSLR. It is ridiculous, its like me starting a thread entitled "Do not buy the Nokia N8 as it cannot burn CDs !"
Its pretty straightforward to me.
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exaflare23
Joined: May 21, 2009
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From: Carmona, Philippines
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@etaab
well said
for me the title was wrong, It should be "Do not buy a Camera Phone if you r keen on night photography"
dont specify a unit, the samples that ive seen here is just a tiny portion of night photography and not the whole thing.
for me this is the real Night Photography.
"You don't need a reason to help people" -Nokia N82 5.0MP Carl Zeiss Optics -My|Phone A878 Duo My C901 Shots flickr |
Bonovox
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Nice pic. What was it taken with??
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Shino03
Joined: Dec 22, 2008
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@vit, why not try to live in Japan.. I do really think that there are a lot of cameraphones better than the N8 in that part of the world.. Just joking..
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Posted: 2010-10-29 18:35
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