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Sassho
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Posted: 2010-10-21 07:44
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On 2010-10-20 22:44:33, mlife wrote:



sorry... but I think your confused.... grain is in film... noise is for digital media.... Or let me guess.........



Kids.....noise have everitng , even in DSLR cameras. Topic N8 vs.SATIO closed , N8 win. Now let's to see N8 / Pixon12 OK? What are мain advantages/disadvantages N8 camera

Advantages
1.BEST biggest sensor 1/1.83"
2.Natural soft colors
3.28mm wide angle optics
4.Xenon flash
5.HD videorecord, BEST in 30 k/s
6.Low noise level

Disdvantages
1.Terrible worse optics(blur to right side or blurry spots everywhere)
2.Poor camera settings ( MACRO over 15cm, no trasking AF , no Text mode , no Smail detectoin and many more....)
3.Middle detail levels( strong noise reduction)
4.No Led flash for videorecord
5.Short battery life

Pixon12 camera
Advantages
1.BEST sharp razor 28mm wide angle optics
2.Two mechanical diafragms in camera - F3.6 F2.6
3.Close up MACRO - 8cm
4.Nice postprocessing colors,do not need editing
5.Great detail on images
6.Many camera settings
7.Xenon/Led flash
8.Phone design like camera - very comfortable
9.Long battery life

Disadvantages
1.Noble grain in sky
2.Middle videorecord quality
[ This Message was edited by: Sassho on 2010-10-21 09:21 ]
demonlover
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Posted: 2010-10-21 09:37
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Sassho, we are kids but you are dumbass! This topic is for Nokia and Satio - NOT for your ugly soapbox Samsung! Nokia and Satio are smarthphones at all, your pixon is not. We talkin about lens cover, big screens, A-GPS, 16:9 3.5 inch wide screen wiith nHD technology, DLNA to wifi with 3.5G speed, video records WVGA (864×480) @ 25fps, and VGA (640×480) @ 30fps, etc...
Your soapbox in all that points is sucks! Please, don't shitin every topic and forum with your personal tragedy no more!
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Sassho
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Posted: 2010-10-21 09:54
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On 2010-10-21 09:37:49, demonlover wrote:
Nokia and Satio are smarthphones at all


Symbian is smart? Do not foolish Android is Smart , Symbian is dead and Pixon is аlive
[ This Message was edited by: Sassho on 2010-10-21 08:56 ]
TTT
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Posted: 2010-10-21 10:03
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As usual this thred won't lead to anything good.

THERE IS NO PERFECT CAMERAPHONE!

Every phone has flaws.
The difference between Pixon 12 and N8 is that the N8's flaws can be fixed. There are saturation and contrast settings in the N8 while the noise in the Pixon 12 is unchangable.
I taking pictures
Sassho
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Posted: 2010-10-21 10:09
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On 2010-10-21 10:03:29, TTT wrote:
THERE IS NO PERFECT CAMERAPHONE!

Agree - no perfect things, even DSLR cameras. Pixon12 have noise reduction in Beautiful Face mode , but I not use it . I like noble grain

If anybody have N8 , please post new good samples

OK. new sample by N8 - comments please?

click
[ This Message was edited by: Sassho on 2010-10-21 09:18 ]
davidsic
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Posted: 2010-10-21 10:42
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On 2010-10-19 08:53:43, Luhccas-U1a wrote:
Sassho = Plankgatan of Samsung phones ?
[ This Message was edited by: Luhccas-U1a on 2010-10-19 07:54 ]

LOL

Anyway where's Plank ?
Sassho
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Posted: 2010-10-21 11:25
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Plankgatan is dude , but with bad bad cameraphone
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TTT
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Posted: 2010-10-21 13:12
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Sassho. Post a macro picture and a landscape picture with clear blue sky in beauty mode or whatever that makes less noise. If there's alot less noise I will completly change my mind about Pixon 12.
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ok1907
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Posted: 2010-10-21 14:52
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On 2010-10-21 07:44:05, Sassho wrote:

On 2010-10-20 22:44:33, mlife wrote:


sorry... but I think your confused.... grain is in film... noise is for digital media.... Or let me guess.........



Kids.....noise have everitng , even in DSLR cameras. Topic N8 vs.SATIO closed , N8 win. Now let's to see N8 / Pixon12 OK? What are мain advantages/disadvantages N8 camera

Advantages
1.BEST biggest sensor 1/1.83"
2.Natural soft colors
3.28mm wide angle optics
4.Xenon flash
5.HD videorecord, BEST in 30 k/s
6.Low noise level

Disdvantages
1.Terrible worse optics(blur to right side or blurry spots everywhere)
2.Poor camera settings ( MACRO over 15cm, no trasking AF , no Text mode , no Smail detectoin and many more....)
3.Middle detail levels( strong noise reduction)
4.No Led flash for videorecord
5.Short battery life

Pixon12 camera
Advantages
1.BEST sharp razor 28mm wide angle optics
2.Two mechanical diafragms in camera - F3.6 F2.6
3.Close up MACRO - 8cm
4.Nice postprocessing colors,do not need editing
5.Great detail on images
6.Many camera settings
7.Xenon/Led flash
8.Phone design like camera - very comfortable
9.Long battery life

Disadvantages
1.Noble grain in sky
2.Middle videorecord quality
[ This Message was edited by: Sassho on 2010-10-21 09:21 ]


1)N8 doesn't have terrible optics. There are some fixible issues caused by the size of sensor.
2)The camera has face detection but doesn't have smile detection but I don't think anyone uses this kinds of features more than 1 or 2 times.
3)Middle levels of detail? You must be kidding!
4)Led flash for video is one of the priorities that will be fixed with future firmwares.
5)You again must be kidding! The battery is very efficient.

So, you are totally a waste of time.
[ This Message was edited by: ok1907 on 2010-10-21 16:32 ]
jake20
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Posted: 2010-10-21 15:31
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On 2010-10-21 07:44:05, Sassho wrote:
Disdvantages
1.Terrible worse optics(blur to right side or blurry spots everywhere)
2.Poor camera settings ( MACRO over 15cm, no trasking AF , no Text mode , no Smail detectoin and many more....)
3.Middle detail levels( strong noise reduction)
4.No Led flash for videorecord
5.Short battery life


@Sassho
You are not a very smart guy, i am sorry.
Worse optics? LOL.. you are truly a joke man.

Strong Noise Reduction???
N8 has almost no noise reduction in its pictures. Damian Dinning has said this himself.

Battery life is not so short either.. may not be the longest, but its not short by any means.
PIXON was the phone rated with below average battery life to idiot!!

Why do you need LED video light when you can take amazing HD quality video in a dark nightclub like this?
Small LED will do nothing here..
Pixon can only dream of this quality..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5qU-YDMxOA&translated=1

and i see you leave out key points like

Pixon 12..

1. Only 150MB on board memory, while N8 has 16GB, and expandable to 48GB
2. Samsung propriety OS (no app store)
3. Poor GPS navigation, NOT FREE, and no offline GPS capability
4. No FM transmitter
5. No HDMI
6. NO 3.5mm headphone jack
7. Non responsive touch screen

Just go away man.. you are clueless
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2010-10-21 14:57 ]
Sassho
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Posted: 2010-10-21 17:54
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My dear jake20 - you'r very angry, it's not good
N8 camera have good optics? Tell me about this picture a?

click

What we are see? We are see wrong AF work. Amazing but focus is good to right (ussualy blurry) side and terrible blurry on ALL left side Why? Because AF is wrong locked to right(ussualy blurry) side , as results right side is sharp and left side is blurry. It's BEST camera for you? I don't think so

Now let's see battery. Pixon12 battery lasts over 500 shots or 3 days normal use.
Nokia N8 battery life is one day....it's great

Let's see phone processor. Pixon proc is 800mhz OK? And N8 proc is 624mhz....funny
Pixon12 have 1GB ROM for propriety OS , N8... ?

But this not important. Important camera quality and Pixon12 camera on very high level. Ask more from Nokia dude
[ This Message was edited by: Sassho on 2010-10-21 17:04 ]
Acelew
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Posted: 2010-10-21 18:34
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I thought this thread should be all about Satio and N8,and should be comparison between Satio and N8.
HxH
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Posted: 2010-10-21 19:38
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Tired don't you
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davidsic
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Posted: 2010-10-21 21:14
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Nokia N8 vs Sony Ericsson Satio: The 12 Megapixel, Xenon Flash Camera Showdown -> here


[ This Message was edited by: davidsic on 2010-10-21 20:15 ]
etaab
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Posted: 2010-10-21 21:40
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I really cannot believe the amount of immature bickering ive just read. Ive been away from Esato since around Sunday, this thread was on page 32 or something. I cannot even be bothered to read it all as most of it is opinions and not fact.

Well here is the opinion of a N8 AND Satio owner. The N8 blows the Satio's camera completely out of the water. Im just uploading examples of this right now and will post soon. Ive taken some better pictures today now that ive spent some time with the N8 and have learnt how to use its camera better.

Im not saying im the perfect photographer, but the examples i have coming up show how much the N8 has advanced over the Satio with its camera. I used the Satio to the best of my ability, which has been pretty damn good IMO, im a pretty good shooter with the Satio. But, again, the N8 blows the Satio away.

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