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On 2007-10-18 18:19:13, Arne Anka wrote:


Its not entirely true. That's actually where Nokia makes lot of money, but you need to sell them in very large quantities to earn decent money I would guess.

In Q3 Nokia sold around 111 million units of which 9 millions were N series and 2 million E series phones. This means that 10% of all Nokia phones sold where more exclusive/expensive phones while the rest were simpler/cheaper models. The drop of ASP from 90 to 82 EUR further confirms this, as well as Nokias own statement that sales of phones below 30 EUR have become a significantly bigger part of their total sales.

For SE, due to their small size its clear that their profit depends more on high end phones than for instance Nokias.

[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2007-10-18 17:23 ]

On 2007-10-17 13:15:56, arunvc wrote:
@razec

Sorry but there are too much evidence from SE centric forum like esato
Here are few from esato
1)
I just bought this phone
Quite impressive but when the meanwhile i actiavted the phone camera mode,
it make me dissapointed.
Cyber-Shot is just the name but the reality the photo is not that nice as expected.
Video recording is sux,sux to the max!!!
Gosh,i'm so regret to get this phone..
The screen resolution sux,colours sux...
The only thing that impress me is the outlook..
i recommend u guys better get a N95 because i compared photo with my friends mine looks sux because the colours is just 265k :/
ill get a N95 and sell off this outdated phone

2)from esato
My own personal view is that yes there are a few bugs in the software, but you get this with every new phone and not just this one.

Regarding the Camera problem, I have seen a couple on hear mention the problem with the Camera Shutter not working correctly,

3)From esato
Sizewise, it feels slightly more bulky and someone commented earlier that I
had a new brick

4)Esato
Is it only mine??? But the back cover is kinda loose close to the battery flip. Feels like a cheap

5)Esato
I've emailed SE, so have to wait to see what their saying... But if this is the new standard, SE will sink pretty soon

6)Eato
It's the same on my K850i...and it squeeks if you press the back cover just beneath the speaker

7)from GSM Arena
The design of the battery cover is a nice novelty, but we think it has one disadvantage. The lower end of the rear panel wobbles noticeably when typing on the keypad.

esato
Posted: 2007-10-15 22:44
i had a chance to hold the handset yesterday.i feel the buttons on the handset feel too cheap and plasticy

9)I used a K850 yesterday , and the same thing happened with me while i was typing a message , a little sound that kept on coming whenever i was pressing a button ...

10 esato
I din´t like it either, not at that price.
Uncomfortable buttons and a fingerprint magnet.
I really hope there will come a K860 or something.

11) have to say I'm not a fan either, put mine straight on eBay.

12)the bit to the left of the light sensor if you look at the phone from the back (lenghways) when you push it in squeeks

13)ugh, this sounds crap, currently have a k810i which i love to peices - my work offered to get me a company phone of my choice, so i thought of going for either a k850i or a p1i, looks like ill be going for the p1i! any word about this being a bad batch or it getting sorted?

14)Never liked the phone from day 1 when its spy pic started to surface in the rumors section. I remember hoping it wouldn't get to be a working unit and I remember many others beings worried as well. Now the design has actually been approved, and my nightmare came true. I don't know about its ergonomics or functionality but it's not an issue to me when its shell design failed to meet my beauty-o-meter minimum to begin with. Simply ugly, only next to E90-now that's a phone I'd never want to be caught dead with, but that's a different topic.

15)don't like that small hinged cover because if you drop the phone on the floor and it fall on this cover, it will break.

Think i'll stick with my k800i for a while.


16)the camera shutter. I think this problem is a batch problem, I had it occur to me and so has one other member on here I think, and I believe that member also had trouble with a sqeaky casing which I've suffered with. I think the two are linked and are down to a manufacturing fault in that particular batch. If you get yours over the nxt week or so chances are that batch will have cleared through the systems and yours will be fine

17)I hope firmware tweaks can improve the image quality, because for the first time in my life, I can honestly say that the G600, Viewty and N95 all take better pictures than the K850i

18)The camera shots I've taken in my house tonight in darkish light are a little fuzzy to be honest. I'm sure a play with the camera will reveal better pictures, but it was a little dissapointing.


Sorry for small list will post few more soon

On 2007-10-16 12:27:55, max_wedge wrote:
While this is true in a literal sense, of all the people I know who have Nokia s60 phones, about 10% (and I'm being generous) actually even know they have a smartphone or that they can install thirdparty apps on it. Probably 50% don't even know about the task switcher. I don't know if this demonstrates that Nokia users are either a) stupid, or b) don't particularly care about smartphone features. I assume b), simply because it would also explain why SE mid range phones are also popular, despite not being smartphones.

On 2007-10-19 07:39:34, ttsng wrote:
Nokia Q3 profits jump 85% to 2.2B

On 2007-10-17 04:32:33, mario2004 wrote:
@Max With all respect - what makes you think Se is popular? Market share below 10%. Third quarter profit dropped by a third. You call that 'popular' ?

On 2007-10-20 14:21:27, Dogmann wrote:

Market share means nothing without profitability as anyone can have the biggest market share it's easy just sell your devices at cost. What counts is both profitability and Market share one without the other is pointless. Maybe you hadn't noticed but Nokia mange to grow both which is what makes them successful.