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altemyr
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Posted: 2007-03-26 19:19
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On 2007-03-26 14:06:32, hanugro wrote:
Well I think it may handle at least 4GB. Just no M2 card of that capacity yet.


Quote from K800 white paper:

Memory Stick Micro™ (M2™) slot

There is support for Memory Stick Micro™ (M2™) of up to 2 GB. Different kinds of content (pictures, audio, video clips etc.) can be stored on the Memory Stick Micro™ (M2™), and transferred to other Memory Stick Micro™ (M2™) – compatible consumer products, for example Sony digital cameras, camcorders, portable music players, TVs, photo printers and computers.

Update:
Just for curiosity, since I thought that the 2GB limit might be firmware or hardware dependant, I checked the white paper for K810. In there, they state that Memory Stick Micro™ (M2™) slot supports up to 1 GB memory cards. That's truly an argument for keeping the K800i and not upgrading to K810...


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Posted: 2007-03-26 23:49
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k810 supports only 1 gb memory? now this is crap
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Posted: 2007-03-27 00:26
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Sandisk had the 2GB before sony did they both make the same cards. Just deliver at different times. Its all down to preference, with the cards.

Sandisk were the !st to use Flash memory. I think it was intel or ibm who didnt see any use for it so the creator got to take the rights to it many years ago.
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Posted: 2007-03-27 04:47
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Sandisk is any day better than sony ones in terms of quality , performance and cost.
i had used both of them and found that sony does not stand any where.

i am using a 4gb ultra II for my p990i and its works great..

the only problem is getting a genuine one.. but from an authorised dealer.
more than 90% of sandisk cards in the market are fake ones. Its very hard to make them out. For sony too you might find plenty of fake ones...
altemyr
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Posted: 2007-03-27 10:53
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On 2007-03-26 23:49:40, antichrist wrote:
k810 supports only 1 gb memory? now this is crap



No, it's true, or there is a typing error in 's white paper. It cannot be that they did not write bigger than 1GB since there were no bigger M2 cards available by the time the paper was written, since the white paper for K800i is much older, and that one says 2 GB.

There is a tiny possibility that the addressing space could be increased by a firmware or EROM upgrade, but the limit may as well be in the hardware.

Anyone with a K810 that has tested a Sandisk 2GB M2 yet? It does work on my K800.
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Posted: 2007-03-27 11:21
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I remember reading somewhere that the Sony ones are just a branded version of the Sandisk, yet I also remember that a speed test was done, Sony vs Sandisk, with the outcome favourablle for the Sandisk. Odd.
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Posted: 2007-03-27 11:43
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When are the 2GB Sony M2's going to be available in the UK?
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Posted: 2007-03-27 16:43
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k810i will take more than 1gb. the white paper was probably written before 2gb was released, so the limit was set to what ever was out at the time, 1gb.... or its just an error. if the k800 takes more than 1gb, the k810 will definately
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Posted: 2007-03-27 17:00
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On 2007-03-26 19:19:23, altemyr wrote:

Just for curiosity, since I thought that the 2GB limit might be firmware or hardware dependant, I checked the white paper for K810. In there, they state that Memory Stick Micro™ (M2™) slot supports up to 1 GB memory cards. That's truly an argument for keeping the K800i and not upgrading to K810...


[ This Message was edited by: altemyr on 2007-03-26 18:29 ]


http://www.sonyericsson.com/s[....]=pip2&zone=pp&pid=10407&tid=14

Read here, stated clearly K800 support up to 1GB as well. The reason for that is that Sony has only 1GB of M2 to sell. I am pretty confidence SE phone can take at least up to 4GB M2. That is the limit of 32bit and as others said that even FAT32 can support more (but 1 file may only up to 4GB).
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Posted: 2007-03-27 17:39
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For MSDPs (full-size, not Micro), someone on Esato posted a speed test comparison between Sony-branded (standard and high-speed) and Sandisk-branded (also standard and high-speed) . IIRC, the standard Sandisk was actually faster than the Sony high-speed

I suspect the same is the case for Micros?

Anyway, it goes to show that Sandisk is actually better!
altemyr
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Posted: 2007-03-28 08:05
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On 2007-03-27 17:00:20, hanugro wrote:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/s[....]=pip2&zone=pp&pid=10407&tid=14

Read here, stated clearly K800 support up to 1GB as well. The reason for that is that Sony has only 1GB of M2 to sell. I am pretty confidence SE phone can take at least up to 4GB M2. That is the limit of 32bit and as others said that even FAT32 can support more (but 1 file may only up to 4GB).


Well, 1 GB for K800i is definitely incorrect information, since I use a 2GB card on my K800i, and it works. Also, I believe that the white paper, that is supposed to be the technical spoecification for developers and others, is a more reliable source of information than what comes from the sales department. In the WP, it says 2GB, and it was written long before Sony even released the 1GB card. The fact that the WP for K810 has to be written after the WP for K800, and that one says only 1GB must also have a meaning.

K800i White paper, dated March 16, 2006, see page 6
K810i White paper, dated February 19, 2007, see page 6

However, I truly hope that both limit statements are incorrect, and that both handsets will be able to handle even bigger memory cards than 2 GB, should they arrive to the market. Anyone that knows what the limit for the M2 format is? 32 GB perhaps?

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altemyr
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Posted: 2007-03-28 14:29
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On 2007-03-28 08:05:59, altemyr wrote:
Anyone that knows what the limit for the M2 format is? 32 GB perhaps?



Found it on http://www.memorystick.org/eng/aboutms/micro.html:
Maximum Capacity is 32 GB for the memory stick itself. It will be interesting to see when such a memory comes around.
altemyr
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Posted: 2007-03-28 14:47
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BTW, the Sony/Sandisk Press Release from 2005 pretty much summarizes and finalizes this discussion:

SANDISK AND SONY DEVELOP “MEMORY STICK MICRO” (M2) FORMAT
Ultra-small IC recording media for mobile phones


SanDisk Corporation and Sony Corporation today announced the development of the “Memory Stick Micro” format, an ultra-small IC recording media designed to meet the growing storage needs of highly compact, multifunctional mobile phones. Licensing for the development of “Memory Stick Micro” compatible hardware will begin October 3, 2005.


This press release also informs about the maximum capacity.

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Posted: 2007-03-28 16:18
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im using 2GB M2 sandisk on my K800i. no problems so far, and it works well on PSP too.
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Posted: 2007-03-28 16:45
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When are the Sony 2GB M2's going to be available in the UK?
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