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K800i Joystick Problem |
wap123
Joined: Nov 04, 2006
Posts: 190
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why can you just but a phone without joysticks if you don't want to go through this kind of problems?
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Rajjy
Joined: Jul 19, 2006
Posts: 112
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Most of the time people don't know about the glitches until they've got the phone and experienced the problems for themselves.
Besides, the K800i was the best thing available at the time I got mine. |
night_66
Joined: Jul 29, 2005
Posts: 202
From: Sweden
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I was talking today to my friend, he works with Sony Ericsson at the department they work with joystics and keypads ..
He said, there is NO hardware problem at all with the joystic, the main problem comes from the firmware/software of the phone which is not that well done to match the construction of the joystic ! thats why they are having problems !!
and he even told me one more again, if any dust comes inside the place there the joystic placed .. it will NOT get inside and disturb the mecanism of it .. the dust comes above the washer ... not under it ..
its looks like the automatic gear of cars .. if the software is bad .. the changes between the steps will be wrong or bad ..
And once more again, my K800i is brand new .. and i use a good bag to safe it from any dusts .. but the joystic is not responding well as i want .. so i cannot be any dust inside .. right ?  |
Rajjy
Joined: Jul 19, 2006
Posts: 112
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Night_66, I've just literally this minute tried to download the lateste firmware from the SE website, to my K800i, and it said I already had it (bought the phone in July this year), yet i still get intermittement unresponsiveness in downward direction. Yet the WD40 makes the joystick feel as good as new. How does your friend explain that? |
Red_Rach
Joined: Jan 20, 2004
Posts: 424
From: Manchester, UK
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Same here rajjy. I have the latest firmware and still have this problem. This has been a problem with all joystick phones although i only experienced it with the w800 and k800.
This message was posted from a K800i |
Rajjy
Joined: Jul 19, 2006
Posts: 112
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My last phone (Nokia 6680) had a joypad. SE should adopt that. Obviously problems with having a joystick.
*SIGH* problems problems problems problems problems problems problems problems problems problems problems
It looks like its up to me, you and night_66 to get to the bottom of this!!
Hey, night_66, your friend who works for SE, does he know if they've even acknowledged this problem? Surely SE are aware of Esato and have someone scanning the posts.
[ This Message was edited by: rajjy on 2006-11-20 09:15 ] |
k1000
Joined: Jul 26, 2006
Posts: 6
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It's definitely a problem with the 8 axis thing like nirmalv wrote. If you go to the system menu (the *<*<<... or whatever) and you check the keyboard. It confirms that if you use the joystick it's very difficult because of its size to choose straight down (it actually works once every 2 or 3 times). Most of the time it choses the diagonal left or diagonal right. This can be solved by considering the diagonal down left and diagonal down right the same way as straight down. The current software doesn't consider diagonal movements and thus you hear a click because you actually triggered the joystick but it doesn't move the cursor. In many cases the menu only allows to go up and down anyway. |
jonboyo
Joined: Jul 24, 2004
Posts: 4
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If its a software issue, why does the joystick get worse?
Mines been fine for >4mths but now its a bit dusty looking around the joystick
and it seems to be sticking /unresponsive. |
Red_Rach
Joined: Jan 20, 2004
Posts: 424
From: Manchester, UK
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Just try the WD40 thing like I did. It really does work. |
o166
Joined: Jan 06, 2006
Posts: 32
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sorry for my ignorance, but what exactly is WD40? havent heard of it before.. |
obentou
Joined: Sep 19, 2005
Posts: 364
From: Toronto
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It's a lubricant. If I am correct...haha. |
Red_Rach
Joined: Jan 20, 2004
Posts: 424
From: Manchester, UK
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Yes is a lubricant usually used on doors or hinges anything really. |
kalleboo
Joined: Nov 03, 2005
Posts: 218
From: Lund, Sweden (walking distance
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On 2006-11-19 21:32:19, Rajjy wrote:
Yet the WD40 makes the joystick feel as good as new. How does your friend explain that?
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Placebo. Please explain to me the magical physics that makes the WD40 pass through this piece of plastic inside the K800:
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7611/imgp1384vv0.jpg
(the joystick is in the middle, and the soft keys around it)
[ This Message was edited by: kalleboo on 2006-11-27 18:35 ] |
night_66
Joined: Jul 29, 2005
Posts: 202
From: Sweden
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Greaaaaaat picture !!! this is explain everything ... so people who talk about DUST .. wake up LOL ..
Thanks kalleboo .. great job .. and you end this war about dust or firmware issue ...
Better to write to SONY ERICSSON to try fix this problem in thier next firmware than fighting about dust issue ..
thanks again kalleboo
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On 2006-11-27 19:34:49, kalleboo wrote:
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On 2006-11-19 21:32:19, Rajjy wrote:
Yet the WD40 makes the joystick feel as good as new. How does your friend explain that?
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Placebo. Please explain to me the magical physics that makes the WD40 pass through this piece of plastic inside the K800:
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7611/imgp1384vv0.jpg
(the joystick is in the middle, and the soft keys around it)
[ This Message was edited by: kalleboo on 2006-11-27 18:35 ]
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jonboyo
Joined: Jul 24, 2004
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Well mine was selecting things when trying to move down....and just wasn't moving down through menus effectively (despite making click sound as if it should).
Thought it might be a software problem since still indicated movement with sound but just didn't work.
About to return it for repair when I decided to get out a cotton bud->twist the end to a wisp then insert and clean around the joystick thoroughly and to my shock it worked and no more unresponsive joystick and no more unintentional clicking.
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Posted: 2006-11-18 19:08
