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Muhammad-Oli
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No, it was designed by Sony Ericsson. HTC built it. So Sony Ericsson can be proud of their X1 because all HTC did was add their expertise in building a functional WM device.
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jayce
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OK, Kudos to Sony Ericsson for designing it.
As for HTC building it, surely that still eats into  's margins? |
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Yeah I'd say it would. But SE will be charging a high price for the "premium materials" so they'll probably still make as much as they make from any other mid-high end phone in their range. 
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According to Expansys they're charging £584.99 inc. VAT for the X1, so I can see your point there. |
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On 2008-09-25 10:36:17, Raiderski wrote:
they have A2 platform which is not bad for 'normal' phones, they also can use Symbian/WM/other system in next devices. next system is bad idea IMO
We know that it is possible to add touchscreen in A1 platform - Z555. Now we have to see A2 with touchscreen ( we should wait it in the G-series - G*** )
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Z555 doesn't have a touchscreen. 
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Sorry. I mean Z558 - http://www.mobilewhack.com/reviews/sony_ericsson_z558_phone.html
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IMHO
To make a high-end device, you have to have a high-end OS to run on it. Right now it's WM. It doesn't get more powerful than that. And no company can whip something together, on the scale of WM, in a few months. So any high(est)-end device from SE will be WM based. Even the iPhone OS (which was derived from MacOS) doesn't compete with WM on features. Obviously UIQ, A200 or S60, while they certainly make for useful devices, can't compete with the features WM brings to a phone.
So I think, any device without WM in it (from SE) will not be considered a high-end device.
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You are not right. Symbian is not so bad. Sony Ericsson can continue developing it to make it more poverfull. But first SE has to move from 9.1 to 9.4 or the future 9.5, because 9.1 is very old and already not powerfull enought. G900 is not high-end phone. The phone should look like P1 or M600.
EDIT: http://www.symbian.com/files/rx/file9468.pdf
http://www.symbian.com/files/rx/file8929.pdf
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On 2008-09-25 18:19:12, mediar wrote:
You are not right. Symbian is not so bad. Sony Ericsson can continue developing it to make it more poverfull. But first SE has to move from 9.1 to 9.4 or the future 9.5, because 9.1 is very old and already not powerfull enought.
You say I'm not right then explain how Symbian needs to get more powerful...that's a contradiction. |
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I don't think that Windows Mobile is the best OS for high-end phones or there is just no way the phone to be high-end. I say that Sony Ericsson is using old symbian platform which takes down the phones. This means that if SE goes to 9.5, the phones will be rated higher.
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On 2008-09-25 19:19:06, mediar wrote:
I don't think that Windows Mobile is the best OS for high-end phones or there is just no way the phone to be high-end. I say that Sony Ericsson is using old symbian platform which takes down the phones. This means that if SE goes to 9.5, the phones will be rated higher.
Well, saying "best" is subjective. I'm just saying WM is the most powerful (not best). If any other OS wanted to match WM feature for feature, they would have some catching up to do. |
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Have you ever asked yourself why the WM based phones and PDAs have so fast CPU's? Lets take P1 and X1:
P1 has 208 MHz
X1 has 528 MHz
Why? This is not accidentally. This shows us how clumsy and slow is Microsoft's OS for mobiles. Symbian is one OS which is made like the normal people ( that's a expression ) and it don't needs fast CPU. That's the main plus. Second - WM can support only 65k colours of the screen. This is something notable. Symbian : WM - 1:0
Let's take I-phone. There is nothing new and revolutionary. But the existing is made with beauty and it works. One think which Microsoft can't reach to.
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@jayce,
You really can't judge a devices true price from what Expansys charge, as they are always the most expensive for first released items and more expensive then other resellers.
@WhyBe
Sorry but i really don't know where you get this idea that WM is the most powerful OS from as that is blatantly not true. You can't judge Symbian on just UIQ that fell seriously behind the rest of the Symbian eco system either. Symbian still is the leading smart phone OS by quite some margin and is the OS the others have to compete with not the other way round.
Oh and by the way I'm not even using Symbian currently but that doesn't mean i can't see it's plus points. Currently I'm using the Blackberry OS that is also surprisingly simple, fast and powerful to use. IMO with the latest Blackberry release of OS 4.6 and the Bold and the all Touchscreen Storm coming soon Blackberry now have a much better offering for Europe and not just business users and am shure they will grow their market share. Sorry but WM is just not the leading OS you seem to feel it is, it's good but not the best for all.
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Totaly agree with Dogmann. But as I see Sony Ericsson doesn't have a look for the future. Maybe they will continue to develop their UIQ 3.0 and the P series will die. I can't see good future for the G series.
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