Posted by David Bowley
This has been discussed alot recently while I've been lurking around here, but as time changes so do technology, so what I want to know is does the gprs free proxy thing still work?
I've heard mixed things from the posts, from it does work to it only works on contract etc. Some people still seem to have it and I just wondered how it worked?
I also wondered what exactly the proxy was, because if o2 have started charging then surely it should effect this too. Hopefully someone can explain it for me, I've been wondering for ages.
Also I am willing to pay for my gprs if I can get it unlimited, but I don't seem to be able to find that anywhere either.
Thanks for any help guys
Posted by mkush
Well funny u say that my last 2 bills i aint paid for gprs, where as before that i did get charged? O2 cant seem to make there minds up. I got contract last yr had free gprs for like 6 months or so then i starting getting charged for it :-l but i paying for it atm so i guess it is free again :-D .
Posted by batesie
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I think he means on pay as you go.
Posted by David Bowley
Yep I'm on PAYG, but I'm wondering if it does work. I know that "officially" it doesn't, but that doesn't mean to say that you can't use it does it.
Posted by Jake Blues
im on payg and i still free gprs through the proxy, even though ive heard people on here say that its been stopped.
the only thing i can say is that over the past month or so its been going a bit funny esp. with downloads, it just refuses to let me download anything at times.
Posted by jonat8
I still get it free using proxy 193.113.200.195 port 8080. I have no credit on that particular SIM card and sometimes it pops up a message on the phone saying "You have run out of credit, please top up and try again" but my laptop still connects and pages view fine.
There is some sort of restriction on downloads, anything over about 1.5Mb gets terminated by the proxy and can't be resumed for some reason. But for web pages it's fine.
I have finally managed to get MSN Messenger working through the proxy too, using Adium which is an instant messenger for OS X.
j.
Posted by ten18
ive also got msn workin now but without the proxy would you believe? couldnt even sign in before.
Posted by David Bowley
@Nature: Great, you still get it free, that's good news. I don't mind it being a bit unstable as long as it works, I think there is a way around the mb download limit that's mentioned on the boards somewhere here.
@Jonat8: Thanks for your reply too, great to here you can still get it. I'll try the settings you suggested when I can get my blasted usb cable to work. The fact that it doesn't work directly from the phone but does from the laptop is wierd and I wonder why this happens, but I'm not compaining, I want it for laptop use anyway. Glad you got MSN to work, when I get around to using it I'll try the program you suggested, thanks.
@ten18: So MSN can work then, not bad, I'll try it out, thanks.
Posted by Jake Blues
what?!
how do we get around the d/l limit? i never read about it here!
Posted by jonat8
I sort of found out about the download limit by trial and error, after 3 times trying to download the same file and it terminating at the same point every time I figured it must be to do with the proxy.
The problem is, when the download gets to 1.5Mb (ish) the proxy simply terminates it but does it in such a way that the browser thinks the download is complete. So IE flashes up "Download Complete" and you're left with a truncated file. Depending on the file type it'll probably be unusable. If the proxy terminated the download so that it appeared to have failed, then you could probably resume it. But no, it has to be a pain in the neck.
Posted by jonat8
@ten18: I also got MSN to work without the proxy server as well. I tried changing status a few times and it seemed to work OK so I wonder why that works but nothing else works without the proxy server. If I turn it off in OSX preferences then I cannot get to any web pages (at all).
The proxy is only an HTTP proxy but it is good for HTTP or HTTPS traffic on any port, but no other type of traffic (FTP etc.) Apart from the download restriction the only other problem with it is that it doesn't seem to support cookies, so no signing into web based e-mail, forums etc. If you have a cookie saved on your computer for say, a forum login, then the forum should recognise it until it expires though.
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Posted by Jake Blues
with the p8s internal browser it just knocks off, no warning or nothing, it does seem to be about the 1mb limit but when its in a real bad mood it does it whenever it feels like it.
at the beginning i dont mind, its when its towards the end it winds me up.
its like back in the day when the original napster was running and these idiots waited until 99% of the download was done then decided to cancel it!
Posted by Rhino8
How do i use my gprs to connect to internet on my laptop. Am using a p4 2ghz with win xp. Proxy cap doesnt want to work. Am using o2 gprs.
Posted by Debu
free gprs!!! lucky chaps.
Posted by David Bowley
@Nature: http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=78669
That's a thread and in it there are details of how to get past the dl limit, written by rick87:
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there sure is!would have taken me ages to shift the amount of data i've shifted over my phone otherwise. head over to www.speedbit.com and download DAP(Download Accelerator Plus) awesome piece of software, with the added bonus of not only can you download greater than 1.5mb, but it also accelerates it - i have had speeds of 7-8k on my gprs connection with it. however, bear in mind that not all downloads are compatible with it, due to the scripts some sites use to download the files. a way around this usually is if you can find the file address the script points you to and put the URL directly into DAP, it will download it quite happily. good luck! |
@Rhino8: Are you after info on how to connect or how to get it free? I'm still struggling on the connection part myself but I'm sure someone round here knows how to do it. If you're stuck on the "free" part, then all I can say is try the settings mentioned above, keep troubleshooting and good luck.
Posted by Rhino8
@david, i am getting it gprs free on o2, just need to use internet. No other prog i can use?
Posted by David Bowley
What have you tried? SE Dial-Up Suite etc?
Posted by dragon2611
Do o2 know about this?
if they was to catch ppl using the free gprs trick would they do anything anyway?
dont really care if they block my sim for it because i dont use that sim for anything else anyway. (its an old payg one)
but i wouldnt want them trying to charge me for all the gprs ive used....
Posted by jonat8
@david:
I have managed to connect quite easily a T630. First you need to make a new GPRS data profile in the "Data Accounts" area of the T630. Use the following GPRS settings:
APN: payandgo.o2.co.uk
Username: payandgo
Password: password
Then you need to make note of the SID ID of the GPRS connection. Your phone should display it in the "Data Accounts" area (I'm assuming you're using a T610 or similar). It's just a single digit number.
Then it gets a bit trickier depending on how you want to make the connection with your computer. The basic idea is that you have to make a new entry in Dial Up Networking that allows your computer to dial your phone. I use Bluetooth and the software that came with the adapter created a new connection automatically.
Once you've made the new modem entry in Dial Up Networking, you need to set it to dial *99***SID# - so if the SID is 2 then your phone number is *99***2# ... username is "payandgo", password is "password". If you've got it all connected right then your phone should dial the GPRS connection and Windows should display it's usual flashing computers icon.
Then make sure in your Internet settings (in Control Panel) that you have the proxy set up and switched on for HTTP and HTTPS traffic (193.113.200.195 port 8080), and it should just work.
j.
Posted by David Bowley
@dragon2611: I really wouldn't worry about it mate, O2 don't seem like the kind of company that are going to bother checking up on it any time soon, but just as a precaution I'd use a sim that you haven't paid for with a credit card or anything like that, something where they don't know it's you. Besides they can't complain, they're the ones that left it free...
@jonat18: Thanks for all the help you've given, that step by step version above is just brilliant. The only problem I have is that I'm using a usb datacable and I can't seem to get the phone to show up in phone monitor just yet. I think the solution might be just to get a BT dongle eh, and then I'll be putting those steps above into practice and reporting back on whether it works for me or not.
Posted by titus
If they suddenly began 2 charge & for past usage my GPRS bill would be sky high 237 x 2.35 = 556.95, I cant pay that, lol
Posted by govigov
The dial up networking part, is it same all around the world or just o2? (I know i will have to change username, but the rest?)
Posted by David Bowley
Yay, ive managed to get the net to work thru my pc at last using the datacable. However i'm not so sure my settings are entirely right cos it cost me a couple of pence.
Posted by David Bowley
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As far as I know the dial-up networking wizard is specific to SE so it should work no matter where your location is, sorry I took so long to reply.
An update: internet now works through the connection settings mentioned above, and the speed is immense. I'm getting 115kbps, which is twice as fast as dial-up, and I can get this anywhere in UK (well around 97% coverage anyway).
Oh, and if anyone still wonders the proxy is still free, although it might cost the odd pence to make the connection. I hope it stays like this.
Thanks for all the help guys
Posted by ten18
hehe yea its still free lol. hey dave check this, I havent got any credit at all and I can still connect and browse for free!?! its totally awwsoome
Posted by David Bowley
Yea, it's totally awesome, i hope they never make it cost again. I doubt they're losing money cos most people aren't clever enough to work out how to do it.