Posted by sduncan78
Anybody recomend a a good mp4 convertor to get video on my K700?
thanks
Scott
Posted by Dovern
i found this but it doesnt have k700i theme there...
Posted by xbeag
QuickTime Pro is probably the best.
http://www.apple.com/quicktime
Posted by dj_wolfinstein
Hi,
well quicktime pro is like 29 dollars..Any shareware versions available..! Although I don't support Piracy there must be some alternative..Why the heck did SE not provide such a software in the CD pack...
Posted by chewie169
I use a program called mpegable for my p900. Give a try, should work for your k700
Posted by dj_wolfinstein
is it shareware or trial version...
were you able to convert MPEG files to MPEG4..
Posted by Residentevil
Can you convert dvix to mp4, au to mp4 or avi to mp4 with it?
Posted by vonspace
quick time pro..the best....
Posted by StoneRoses
Quality wise, quicktime mpeg-4 encoder is not the good choice.
From my tests of 3 mpeg-4 codecs:
- XviD
- PV Author
- Quicktime
XviD is the best, follow by PVAuthor the Quicktime.
See for yourself (the clip is the TV ad of Samsung printer perform by my fav korean actress)
XviD (2.21MB)
http://www.pocketpcthai.com/temp/Jeon_JiHyun.3gp
PVAuthor (2.16MB)
http://www.pocketpcthai.com/temp/Jeon_JiHyun_PV.3gp
Quicktime (2.35MB)
http://www.pocketpcthai.com/temp/Jeon_JiHyun_QT.3gp
Diferrence in filesize is due to slighly bitrate different in audio
Here is the comparison between XviD and PVAuthor (no need to compare Quicktime encode)
Note:
Details of XviD encode:
Video: XviD ~128kbps 2 passes VBR (framesize and framerate is 176x144 and 15fps for all clips)
Audio: Nero AAC-LC VBR~23kbps
Posted by dj_wolfinstein
I just tried out mpegable x live..Yeah! good program..
Thanks chewy..
Posted by StoneRoses
Here is the same clip using mpegable
http://www.pocketpcthai.com/temp/Jeon_JiHyun_mpegable.3gp
All setting are optimized for best quality and in the same basis (or as close as possible) with XviD encode.
Frame by frame comparison:[top to bottom: XviD/PVAuthor/mpegable]
Note:
- mpegable encoder is not registered so there is a logo on the video
- mpegable seems better than PVAuthor but slightly inferior compare to XviD. But its encoder interface is one of the best I have seen (I really like it) and mpeagable also accept AVISynth frameserver input which is rare for commercial encoder.
If you interest in real percieved quality, download the video and compare yourself.
[ This Message was edited by: StoneRoses on 2004-07-12 17:22 ]
Posted by sandervanzijl
what encoder are you using to encode the vxid?
Posted by StoneRoses
VirtualDubMod is my favorite encoder.
I use mp4box and Quicktime Pro to put xvid avi encoded with virtualdubmod and aac together in 3gp container.
Here are the whole process.
1. encode video in avi format using xvid (use simple profile don't use advanced simple profile) the resolution framrate and bitrate should not exceed the capability of target player. (176x144 15fps not more than 128kbps for K700) [xvid.avi]
2. encode audio, I recommend using quicktime aac mono audio at 32kbps or Nero AAC VBR at thier VBR lowest settings. [aac.mp4]
3.1 using mp4box to convert xvid avi (step 1) to mp4 using this commandline
mp4box -import xvid.avi xvid.mp4
3.2 then merge video with aac audio
mp4box -merge xvid.mp4 aac.mp4 movie.mp4
4. restream mp4 to 3gp format using Quicktime Pro (This step is optional)
- open movie.mp4 in quicktime
- choose export save as .3gp
- select passtrough for both video and audi (very important)
You will get .3gp file encode using the best mpeg4 video encode (and also on the audio part)
Posted by TheRealSpawn
#StoneRoses
Tried your suggestions and compared to my encodings using X4live
I agree - this way gives optimum quality.
Somewhat more work than simply using X4live with its easy interface - but quality is definately better.
Posted by sandervanzijl
i started tests with mpegable. i encoded using the ericsson800/900 setting. after downlaoding my k700 could not play these files (error message)
anyone have any ideas?
Posted by TheRealSpawn
heres my easy guide to create vids using mpegable x4 live
http://3gp.spawnweb.dk
follow this and Ill promise they will play on your k700
Posted by sandervanzijl
that is a very good guide you have. it worked perfectly.
Posted by StoneRoses
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Yep, using XviD to create mobile phone video clip is just pain. But the quality is unmatched and it's free.
mpegabel is a lot easier and also give quite good quality, far better than PVAuthor and Quicktime (note: Quicktime is totally suck)
Posted by marlonxp
I want a mp4 player.
Posted by TheRealSpawn
I totally agree - for a quick conversion of something that doesnt need the ultimate quality but still look reasonably good - X4 live beats pvauthor and quicktime and even sorensen, but best quality is definately using the xvid method (thanks for the info on that method) - Im working on an "automation" process trying out different tools and ways - and writing some batchfiles to make the process easier and quicker.
Posted by StoneRoses
Good to know that you do some reseach on this.
I tried many method with different tools, before I settle down with that method.
My goal is to create video clip based on K700 multimedia capability but compatible with 3gpp standard and can be play on most mp4 player.
Some mp4 muxing tools (mp4UI, mp4creater60) create incompatible clip with some player / hardware. and profile setting in XviD is important in some player. Quicktime show warning message if you use ASP profile (even if you did not use any of advanced encoding tools of ASP).
.3gp clip create with my method can be played on:
SE K700
Nokia 7610 (Real Player on Symbian)
Quicktime 6.5 for PC
pvPlayer
mpegable player
Philips Platform4 Player for Pocket PC
It's also compatible with 3ivx directshow filter.
The good thing is K700 can play most clips I've tested. A lot better than 7610. (I also tried it on Nokia 6230 does not support video clip with AAC audio, very bad)
Posted by morfei1
Thanks @StoneRoses. The quality is better. The playback is smoother. The size is smaller.
I made a search in Google, and I found out this...
http://spawnweb.dk/themes/themes.htm
...a detailed manual, how to convert clips into .mp4 for your K700
hope it helps
[ This Message was edited by: morfei1 on 2005-02-20 00:40 ]