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Posted by P99
...didnt know this thread is still alive.. congrats on the 20D, how much is it in pinas? i have one myself. I promised myself incase i win the lottery, ill buy myself a EOS 1Ds Mark II. haha.

-pinoy, GTalk


Posted by doctabako
P99
Yes, it goes back to life sporadically Got the 20D Kit for 96K, its a bit expensive here as I believe its about 1,400 dollars there(roughly 79,000 php here). Regards

Posted by boysaint
aha! doc, so thats why you weren't showing up on this forum for a while! you were shooting with something-else for a while! congratulations on the acquisition of the canon.

the ventilation there remains the same. you just have to have the patience. but in a way it simulates you well on some sort of 'unfavorable condition' training. after sometime in luxurious ranges i guess i have to go on hard sometimes. not like when we usually get pampered by push-button targets, aircon environment or fresh air range, people who carry our stuff around the range, and other ameneities from luxurious ranges.

and the DVDs ....there's a scare going around the internet that says even data discs may be confiscated at random inspection, due to ignorance of the guys ordered to apprehend. it seems they don't know that we also store our digital photo-images on DVDs. oh well....

Posted by g17
The Northstar ventilation seems okey, it's the reloaded rounds' gunpowder that's giving us problem, heheh. Even the best ventilating fan wont be able to get the smoke out of the room properly. Avoid that range if there is an on-going target practice of security guards. So much smoke, so many inexperienced shooters, too dangerous. Better to bring your own ammo, too. Northstar does not want to increase bullet prices so they use charcoal instead. nyeheheh.

boysaint - hold on to your XDA2 and your cash, O2 is coming out with the real XDA3!!! The XDA2S is interim.

Posted by doctabako
You also wouldn't want to go there when there are Asian tourists trying out the rental guns. They're the epitome of unsafe gun handling and are too ignorant or excited to care. Sometimes there are just too many of them there that the watchful range officers can miss a safety violation here and there. Shoot safe guys.

Posted by boysaint
Doc,
yes we agree, safety should be the first point to check while in the range. we all have to be aware of it. and i understand your sentiments regarding inexperienced shooters inside a range. i have also seen those situations. a group of taiwanese tourists, posing for pictures, finger on the trigger, just like movie posters. and another group of japanese, with their equally ignorant japayuki escorts, same problem: fingers on the trigger, and this time the barrel is pointing at the person next to them. makes you cringe. then... G17's story about the neophyte security-guards' training time... a range officer's nightmare!
now that you have the Canon, i believe it's time for uploading new pictures! we'll wait for that, Doc.

G17,
middle of this year the new models of XDAs and iPAQs will arrive. I'm now very anxious for them. let's meet, i'll show you pictures/specs of those. naiinggit na nga ako sa iyo, that you're able to surf and e-mail (not via GPRS) mobile.

Posted by boysaint
G17,
hey,ready for missouri? finally a chance to handle a real M4,and shooting at the range till you drop? heheh!

Posted by doctabako
Here's one taken with the 20D of a 16 month old GSD that I bought a week ago as a replacement for one that died a few months ago. Their intelligence, confidence, heft and loud booming bark makes them an ideal guard dog



Posted by boysaint
Doc,
as expected, it takes impressive shots.
and as expected also of the canine friend there ...congratulations on your acquisitions!

Posted by doctabako
Thanks Have fun in the States!

Posted by angel_nineveh
ei, guys, where i could find a nice but inexpensive shooting range around manila? thnx guys!

Posted by g17
angel: u may try Tough Guys in Cubao.
boysaint: We couldnt shoot that huge buck . . . deerhunting season is over. We dont want to pay the fine. The coyotes on the other hand are so difficult to track. They move fast and they mostly come out only at night. Good thing the 10mm Kimber and the HK 0.45USP are great target guns. We could at least bring home nicely drilled target papers.

Posted by g17
boysaint: Huge sale on Circuit City, St. Louis, Mo. and on Gateway, Illinois. iPaqs aren't included in the sale? . . . and no Moto Razors? I dont care much about the Nokias on the list. What about a 5 megapixel Leica? Or a 4 mpixel 10x optical zoom Fuji S5100? boysaint: better get down from that tree-stand.

Posted by boysaint
the olympus C8080 is the one i'll get! by the way ....our cousin's kimber 1911 in 10mm kicks hard! have to be used to it. or is it because of the freezing temperature out there in the Owensville woods, it affects out hands!

Posted by eHunt
Hi to everyone,
I saw this thread as I was browsing for a Filipino Gun Forum and your discussion is both fascinating and enlightening. I'm usually into pocket pistols unlike most of you who are into the bigger caliber guns, since they are easily concealable which I think is important because of the "whimsical changing of rules at the middle of the ballgame" mindset of our gov't. I have a .380 Beretta Cheetah , Colt M1903 .380, and Browning 1922 .380. All having the minimum req't caliber , just have to make up by using Federal HP's for carry. I usually have a Ptc for one of these but now only have a PTT for the Cheetah.
Recently I was offered a subgun by a fellow gunclub member. Can I register the subgun by availing of the "amnesty" offered by our fickle-minded authorities?

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Posted by doctabako
eHunt
Welcome to the forum. Nice collection of pocket autos you have there. All certified classics.
Regarding the subgun, yes, you can avail of the amnesty and have it registered but with our whimsical gun laws, you do run the risk of confiscation when the tide changes. Its up to you

Posted by eHunt
Thanks Doc, the paranoia about gun confiscation still prevails since we don't have that amendment in our constitution but only a so-called "privilege". Hope things change so we could get out of this gray area. I still went through the deal this morning and am now a proud papa of the sub. Now I'm busy registering it via the Gun Amnesty at Camp Crame. I read last night the book " Weapons of the Navy SEALS" by Kevin Dockery and the sub was the weapon of choice by SEALS operators before the advent of the very popular HK series of subguns. It really increased my enthusiasm upon learning that only 6000 were ever made by S&W. By the way what do you know about the legality of owning a sound suppressor for us "law abiding citezens" ?

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Posted by eHunt
Tried out my new acquisition and it seems the seller was correct that it's not very reliable using reloads, I think the bolt is heavy for the reloads because upon using factory FMJs it digested everything without a hitch. My gunsmith agreed with the seller because despite all the tweaking he did, it would not reliably digest reloads, resulting in double feeds in semi mode. Fellow gunclub members suggested using 9mm Para but they said it's hard to come by. By the way what's the diff between 9mmLuger and 9mmPara? The" Encylopedia of Pistols and Revolvers" by A. E. Hartink classified them together with the 9 x 19mm as one. I was reading some of the previews posts and I noticed the German Shepherd, very regal looking, I plan on acquiring one; right now I own a pair of Labradors.

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Posted by doctabako
Sound suppresors are indeed illegal here although I know of a lot who use it for silent target practice at their backyards and for your purposes of varmint disposal as long as you're sure of your backstop, I think that's better than scaring the beejezuz out of your neighbors every time you pop one off . The 9mm para,9mm luger and 9x19 are the same cartridges as far as I recall. Subguns have to be powered by full loads(which is how factory ammo is loaded) powder puff reloads won't do. I'm sure you can get by with reloads loaded to full power factor levels as long as you use FMJ for heads to avoid fouling your barrel and gas system. Using lead heads will also increase wear on your bolt as it goes back faster with lead heads. Be sure to use once fired cases only as you wouldn't want a Kaboom happening to your new baby. Congrats on your acquisition. Since your looking for a filipino gun forum, drop by Band of Glockers at GT, you'll find a lot of gun enthusiasts there( of every type, not just glocks). Here's the link http://www.glocktalk.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=80. Happy Shooting

My Shepherd is presently afflicted with mange and I'm having a hard time controlling it. There seems to be an epidemic here as most of the neighbor's dogs have it too

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Posted by eHunt
Doc,
Thanks, that's exactly the sentiment why I want to use a sound suppressor, to be discreet... And yes sir a proper backstop is one of the foremost consideration when it comes to discharging a firearm. So far I haven't experienced a single hiccup with the sub when using factory ammo and I'm considering to learn how to reload my ammo using my dad's reloading machine. I've also visited BOG and have learned a lot from the experience.
We've had an experience with mange mites when one of my dad's dobe was afflicked. Upon diagnosis the dog was given Ectodexx which was applied to the area affected. You just have to control the dog so that it would avoid licking the treated part. It was successfully treated. Camrosa (British drug) can also be used.

Posted by doctabako
Thanks, I'll ask my dog's Vet about those drugs. He's presently on Ivermectin injections and there is a slight improvement.

Posted by eHunt
Hi Doc,
i'm planning on buying a full size gun this cming GS in july. Currently the biggest caliber handgun I have is a Sig P228, a compact as I am fond of compact and subcompact models. This is the only gun in my collection that is seeing extended time in the range. I also have a Mauser Luger 9mm but i'm trying to preserve it's condition. I use the beretta .380 once in a while so as not to loose "muscle memory" because this is my favorite carry gun. But recently " medyo nabibitin na ko sa range" especially when I was given sample time with full-size guns like the HK USP Expert. In other words diversifying into the higher caliber or full-size babies. The P228 is accurate but because of the shorter barrel... you know what i mean. What do you think is the perfect full-size gun for a neophyte like me? Should i first try out single-actions like the 1911 or Browning HP? Or are the DA HKs, Glocks like .45cal 21, S&W pistols or Steyr pistols the way to go?

Posted by doctabako
With the number of guns you have, I would hardly call you a 'neophyte" All the guns you mentioned are nice, you'll just have to judge which fits your hand and shooting style well. Most of your current guns have double action mechanisms so that could probably figure in your final decision. If you're thinking of going into competition it also depends on what division you plan on entering.

Posted by eHunt
Thanks Doc, I forgot to tell you that I'm planning to get one thats "good to go" right out of the box. So maybe that eliminates the venerable 1911A1s because it seems that a great amount of fine-tuning is needed for it to be in optimum condition, except perhaps for the Para-ords which is big for my hands anyway. The USP Expert was big but was very pleasant to shoot. How about the Steyr M .40S&W which looks like a cross b/w a Walther P99 because of the grip angle and Glock because it has a polymer frame and a squarish slide. I saw an article of one and seems like it sits lower in the hand than the Glocks and the HK USPs?
I haven't received my BOG confirmation yet. My Dad is a " rifle & revolver man" thats why haven't had much input from him regarding on buying a full-size pistol.

Posted by eHunt
Doc, regarding on joining competitions, I think funshoots na lang for me 'cause I started late na on the hobby and am now in my early thirties so it would take a huge amount of effort na to catch up with
you guys in the competition world. Maybe joining someday in the production group level is the short term goal if ever i 've decided to take the plunge. I was a little bit of "frustrated" with the tech gadget hobby kaya I rekindled my passion with guns since depreciation is not an issue here; unlike in the techworld where models are outdated quarterly and no longer annually. So now I stick to the gadgets that still serve me well and am no longer trying to jump into the current "bandwagon". And with our hobby you can pass on these babies to the next generation (at the same time praying for more favorable laws regarding ownership) , unlike tech gadgets... I hope there would be a different set laws regarding antique gun collections and in legally owning all the toys you can collect so that we can reach a hobby utopia without leaving our beloved country.

Posted by doctabako
You do still have to have a decent gun for funshoots. If its good to go out of the box, you won't go wrong with Glocks and HK's. I don't have any experience with the Steyrs but I'm not too keen about that triangular sight configuration. If you're eyeing production division you will be best served with the Glock 17 or the CZ75. If you're leaning towards Standard division get an STI(preferably in .40 S&W), you won't ever look back. It's as close to gun perfection as you can get and personally, my buying binge(used to buy one gun a year) stopped when I acquired mine. Lost my taste for the plastic fantastics although my carry gun is still a Glock 30 as it fits my hand like a glove and is reliable as hell.
Although I've been a gunhead ever since I can remember, I started competing only when I was in my early thirties(I'm 38 now) and I don't think you should let that stop you. Always think of having fun as the first priority, awards and recognition should be secondary. Happy shooting

edited to add:
Regarding your BOG confirmation, that's supposed to be almost immediate. I now see your name "eHunt" in the list of GT members registered April 8. If you're still having problems you can email one of the moderators. Also make sure you're mailbox didn't block/divert the confirmation email as "Junk/trash/spam"

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Funny, I don't see it now. Saw it last night(actually early morning):grin:

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Posted by eHunt
Doc I think you're right, the puzzle-like triangular sights of the Steyr would be complicated for me and could be slow in acquisition. And maybe an STI .40S&W would be perfect as I've heard good things about it. And yes age should'nt matter as long as you enjoy what you do. So I better save up on the STI because it is a little bit pricey. I was surfing at the BOG and Black Rifle and saw some AR pics, I think the M16/A15s have already reached the status of the 1911A1s when it comes to variety and customization.

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Posted by eHunt
Another thing fanning the flames for an ARtype is reading Stephen Hunter books like" Black Light". This is about a former USMC sniper investigating the death of his WW2 vet- Medal of Honor recipient turned policeman father, which he suspects was murdered by the military. The author really knows what he's talking about when it comes to guns. In this book the WW2/Korean War M3 carbine, Colt .38super and Knights AC SR-25 are in full focus. I wonder what its like to shoot the .308 AR-type rifle, I know my dad's dreaming of owning one ( right now he's enamored with M14s, giving me a chance to pry out an AR from him, he,he,he . Another book by Hunter is "Hot Springs" which is a Tommy gun, M2 carbine, BAR book; again featuring the Sniper son/Father cop tandem. Hunter was featured in GUNS mag and was given rave reviews by well known author Tom Clancy. They are even planning on making a movie out of it ,featuring Tommy Lee Jones as the father cop and Barry Pepper, the sniper in Saving Pvt. Ryan fame; as the sniper son. Gun buffs would enjoy these books; nice weekend reads when taking a respite from the summer heat at the open-air range. I bought the books at the Powerbookstore.

Posted by doctabako
Yes, the Elisco makes an excellent platform, same with the Bushmaster. Very few original Colt lower receivers in good condition can be found anyway. My Colt Commando which was all original developed a crack at the top of the buffer tube tower and I had to replace it with an Elisco lower receiver as I wasn't too keen about having it repaired. Works as good as the vietnam era antique it replaced. As I said you won't go wrong with the STI. I'll check out those books you mentioned. Here's a snapshot of the STI in case you haven't seen it from the previous posts



Posted by eHunt
Whoa! That's really an awesome baby! Bomar sites and fiber optic front sight too... How much is the STI Custom 2011 Double-stack .40S&W nowadays? You really can't go wrong with that!
Re: photo quality; glossy gun magazine quality

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Posted by eHunt
Doc I've read Darwin 25's thread on Colt and Elisco. Very informative for guys like me. Maybe thats why my dad's 'smith altered the gas system; for reliability. 'Have also gone to the Black Rifle Club, though it made me envious of them gunners from the states because of the lower prices and wide variety of choice of the ARs and it's accessories. Sana dito rin me 2nd ammendment.

Posted by eHunt
Doc,
It seems that the gov't's attitude "to get the usual suspects" are at it again. What will happen to this country when law-abiding citizens are the ones suffering from the ineptness of the policemen. They should have been there in the first place so they could have apprehended Cong. Lanot's killers. Shaw blvd is in the heart of M.M.; what's their excuse now? I thought these checkpoints are geared towards the safety of us civilians, however uncomfortable for us?! If a former Congressman can be killed in the height of daylight; how can we, simple law-abiding citizens, survive such an attack by criminals? For the sake of argument, active policemen are caught in the act of robbing a money courier; I say if they're gonna ban firearms from law-abiding civilians, why not ban policemen carrying them inside the metropolis. Sort of following the examples set by English bobbies in London.

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Posted by doctabako
Nice Real Classics. My STI was made by Johnny Lim of Limcat Customs who's based in the U.S. Bought it slightly used for a reasonable price . It came with a Caspian Slide, Aftec extractors, Full length Tungsten guide rods, Bomar sights etc.etc. The only thing I added was the Brazos Microdot FO sight and shock buffs. At True Weight Standard division STI's with minimal customization cost 185,000 php so you can take it from there. Here's another, this time with the Glock 30



Posted by eHunt
A hefty price for perfection:). But I can see that its worth it ,as you have attested that the buck stopped there regarding your annual purchases when you finally got that "baby". Truly a "holy grail" for handgunners.The Glock 30 is a nice piece too. Now its time for me to save up if I'm going to get me an STI 'cause I'm a long ways from getting there . Congrats Doc its even "picture perfect".

Posted by eHunt
Heard from Col. Po of FED that they would not issue PTT for long firearms; we're in that down-cycle again. It only means that PTTs for short firearms would follow soon( I hope not 'coz I can't afford PTCs). There are countless of checkpoints all over M.M.; how come no one responded to the scene of the crime( Cong. Lanot's) fast enough to apprehend the criminals? That way law-abiders would not suffer! For what are these checkpoints anyway?!

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Posted by doctabako
Same old,same old. Its anti-gun season again. All because of that new short-sighted PNP chief who's fond of knee jerk reactions. We'll just have to weather this storm

Posted by boysaint
hello Doctabako!
just got back from the vacation, with G17. that was fun! but of course we missed you here.

pero ano ba yan ....kararating ko lang eh ano nanaman yang kabuysitan na nangyayari sa ating mga kasama sa gun enthusiast world! by scanning fast the past posts, did i get it right that the PTT will also be cancelled soon? so this will be a country of "free-to-carry-guns-for-criminals", but be "damn-you-if-you-are-law-abiding-there-simply-is-no-law-for-you"!

doc, can you please welcome me,and give me good news? hahahah!

Posted by doctabako
Welcome back Boysaint and G17
Regarding PTT's, so far, only rifles are affected so rifle competitions are temporarily suspended.
They still issue PTT's for handguns and recent reports show that they don't have plans of stopping their issuance. Reports however are confusing as the PNP sometimes flipflops on their real position. Just hoping for the best.

Posted by boysaint
hello Doc,
here's one of the units we used there in San Gabriel Outdoor Range, California. of course we didn't bring our own...thinking about the whole trouble, paperwork, explaining and all...we'd rather leave them home. so, here are our relatives' units that we used there. thank God they have nice ones.




Posted by boysaint
....and a few more shots.






Posted by doctabako
Nice Sig indeed.

Posted by boysaint
eHunt,
barry pepper? the left-handed christan who use a bolt-action (looks like a springfield) in the movie "saving pvt ryan"? cool! the role fits them both, really. tommy lee jones' image as a cop or a senior law-enforcment guy from all his past movies (from "eyes of laura mars" down to "the hunted"), and the sniper image of pepper from "...ryan"! let's hope they have a good technical adviser on this movie.

Posted by eHunt
Boysaint,
Yes Barry Pepper, I hope they get a very good combat/gun technical adviser. How's the "gun-enthusiast' utopia"? I bet you had a very nice time there.

Posted by eHunt
Boysaint,
Nice Sig P226, one of the best out of the box... I once had an experience using one; nice DA trigger pull even without 'smithing.

Posted by boysaint
eHunt,
that's a Sig P220 in .45acp (a lesser known P220 version is in 38-super. while a P226 is in 9mm). and it's double/single action.

well, yes, everything there in the gun-utopia place regarding our favorite hobby is very much tolerated, contrary to what we hear in the news. all the states there seem to have only one manner of rule. and it seems their 2nd amendment is intact. the silent majority rules...their gun rights is alive, and strong.

Posted by boysaint
regarding a good gun technical advicer.... one of the best movie small detail i saw is the one from "man on fire" ....where Creasey (denzil washington) was holding a bullet which his Glock-34 didnt ignite when he attempted suicide. i gave attention to this scene and checked their primer... and to my surprise the primer dimple is from a real Glock firing pin! i am impressed! they didnt just dimple the primer! they even really used a Glock firing pin hit for the primer, for authenticity. to all Glock users ....you'll know what i mean, right?

Posted by eHunt
Boysaint, that's really interesting. The P220 is quite rare here and i haven't seen one myself. Have you gone to one of the gunshows during your recent visit to the U.S.?

Posted by boysaint
ehunt,
since the early eighties that we have been vacationing in the USA we never miss to visit and shoot at the range, or hunt. but we haven't visited a single gunshow, can you believe it! seems everytime we're there we miss the right scheds. it's mostly held in las vegas.

i see many Sig P220 here in our local gun shows....all versions: two-tone, all blued, all chromed, even the new railed version. i even saw a P245! nashe has a lot of them now. tho' i can almost hear doctabako commenting there. and i can't blame our good friend Doc over there, he has good reasons.

Posted by doctabako
KakaiNashe talaga I haven't been to that store for a long, long time. Good thing I've stopped my gun binge or I could be forced to swallow my pride and deal with them again considering that they have a really nice selection of firearms. Can't say the same for their after sales service though

Posted by eHunt
Maybe I should drop by MCS one of these days, maybe the popularity of the 9mm conditioned my mind that all the Sigs I see here are P226s and P228s. A friend told me that the best gunshow in the U.S. is the SHOTshow usually held at... yes ,Vegas. He showed me a picture of him where an anti-aircraft gun looms at the background. He was also fortunate enough to be at the Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot although he's from Florida, which is a long way from Kentucky where it was held. He said that for a price you can rent and shoot anything from subguns to .50cal mguns. A real treat for an enthusiast I might say. I'm a pocket pistol fan and its only now that big caliber babies are catching my itchy finger's attention.

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