Posted by blackvodka
Ray's really brilliant! but for me 3,3' is a bit too small...those who have Arc may understand me I think
Posted by Bonovox
www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsso[....]_germany_for_369-news-2887.php
Posted by ojas
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_ray-review-618.php
Posted by Bonovox
For a second then I thought you posted the same link as me
One thing I wanna know is why oh why does 
not put more internal memory in their handsets for storage?? 
[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2011-07-14 18:10 ]
Posted by jack00
simple answer
internal memory is expensive
Posted by io_bg
It seems that Ray's camera has fewer settings than Arc, Neo & the rest. What a shame
Posted by Bonovox
I think
keeps missing a trick here. They finally make a handset made of metal(well some of it)but they skp on some features instead. They then build phones with all the features but make them with plastics 
This must be keeping costs of handsets down[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2011-07-14 20:30 ]
Posted by Arne Anka
On 2011-07-14 21:28:02, io_bg wrote:
It seems that Ray's camera has fewer settings than Arc, Neo & the rest. What a shame
From GsmArena
For what it's worth, the video camera turned out to have more settings available in the viewfinder - focus mode, metering, exposure, value and image stabilization are available for adjusting.
Sounds like an early SW issue to me. Why would the video recorder have more settings than the regular camera ?
Posted by Bonovox
I seen a You Tube video somewhere & the camera had same settings I am sure. I is not a finished product as yet so don't jump the gun
Posted by mr_lou
Hmmmmm..........
I'm not sure.
Don't assume logical things. That's my experience, several times now.
Posted by rog
The ray camera has exactly the same settings as arc/neo - as long as you are in the normal capturing mode. In e.g. smile detection mode, there are less settings - I guess that whoever wrote that was in one of those modes
Posted by arcmhyke
On 2011-07-17 12:26:22, rog wrote:
The ray camera has exactly the same settings as arc/neo - as long as you are in the normal capturing mode. In e.g. smile detection mode, there are less settings - I guess that whoever wrote that was in one of those modes
i think so too, just like in cybershot camera's, when in auto scene mode
[ This Message was edited by: mhyke on 2011-07-17 13:56 ]
Posted by HxH
Newbie reviewer? pretty careless one!
Posted by rog
Just checked on arc, the same behavior (if you want to try it for yourself
)
Posted by motvikt
On 2011-07-17 15:23:47, rog wrote:
Just checked on arc, the same behavior (if you want to try it for yourself
)
And what about Arc S?
Posted by rog
Arc S?
Posted by sambouka
On 2011-07-17 15:56:19, motvikt wrote:
On 2011-07-17 15:23:47, rog wrote:
Just checked on arc, the same behavior (if you want to try it for yourself
)
And what about Arc S?
""Arc S"" or ""LT18i""
Posted by rog
Never heard of that. Isn't this thread about the ray?
Posted by fbloise
i might get this one
looking to come back to android but want something very small
Posted by hihihans
Really anxious to feel Ray in my hands
Posted by gayannr
On 2011-07-18 14:28:21, hihihans wrote:
Really anxious to feel Ray in my hands
Ditto
Posted by argiriano
On 2011-07-18 14:28:21, hihihans wrote:
Really anxious to feel Ray in my hands
Me too!
I`m waithing for Ray to feel it in hand because I want smaller phone. Initally I thought Neo is still a bit bigger than I want... but as I finally found this comparison may rethink my choice to Neo. I don`t know... how longer I can wait.
Posted by hihihans
Ray may be a bit small for typing. Ah, we'll see.
Posted by Bonovox
Who put them dirty finger prints over that Mini??
Neo is just right size for texting as is the Arc. Though texting on a 3.3 inch screen is fine I have done so on smaller with ease & I have big hands
Posted by hihihans
So no problem for my slim fingers
Posted by Bonovox
Nope
Posted by hihihans
Any news about the included headset? It has Special music driver, so?
Posted by argiriano
On 2011-07-25 15:47:58, hihihans wrote:
Ray may be a bit small for typing. Ah, we'll see.
I used to type with Vivaz pretty fast and easy with both tumbs and its 3.2" screen, so Ray will be easier.
You just have to use landscape everytime you type.
Posted by jplacson
The specs on the ray's page state both 12-key and on-screen qwerty... can anyone confirm if the ray has T9 or multi-tap 12-key numeric layout as well for text input? This is one of my fav methods on my X10 Mini Pro since it allows one-handed texting.
And would anyone know if the ray has the option for the
4-corner UI as well?
Posted by hihihans
That 4 corner UI would be cool
Posted by rikken
It`s the same as one the Arc and Neo. There is a preview over at GSMarena
Posted by jplacson
Thanks rikken, I've seen those... none of the online vids show the claimed "12-key" text input (like the one found on the Minis)
Does anyone have a photo or screenshot of the 12-keypad input on the ray?
*********
Ok, nevermind found one in Russian on YouTube
[ This Message was edited by: jplacson on 2011-07-27 04:11 ]
Posted by yuunanase
Just played with the ray in the local sony shop. Definately the right size to talk, but the screen is really nice. I found the keyboard too small though.
Salesman said it will be available second week of august.
[ This Message was edited by: yuunanase on 2011-08-01 13:45 ]
Posted by bronxdude
Ray 1st look
Posted by mr_lou
Available at Play.com 15th of August.
Anyone here who'll advice against buying from Play.com?
Posted by hihihans
€437
That might make me move to MiniPro €239
Posted by Arne Anka
On 2011-08-06 15:12:44, hihihans wrote:
€437
That might make me move to MiniPro €239
In Sweden:
Xperia Ray ~ 345 EUR
Xperia Mini Pro ~ 240 EUR
Posted by Nolifedie
Germany
Mini ~ 200 €
Mini Pro ~ 235 €
Ray ~ 315 €
Posted by hihihans
Looks like a trip to germany for me
Posted by mr_lou
Any online shops in Germany that offers that price to foreigners?
Posted by argiriano
On 2011-08-06 15:12:44, hihihans wrote:
€437
That might make me move to MiniPro €239
it`s 349 actually, that`s 100€ mistake.
Posted by pt020
312.5 €
http://www.algebeld.nl/index.[....]=0&ProductPlusProducts=0&Order
Posted by hihihans
Posted by rog
Unboxing of ray is around the corner - need another day or so to edit the video
Posted by smclion102
On 2011-08-07 20:52:10, rog wrote:
Unboxing of ray is around the corner - need another day or so to edit the video
Bring it on
Posted by rog
Here we go
http://www.se-first.com/Unboxing-video-Xperia-ray.html
Posted by mr_lou
On 2011-08-08 21:25:07, rog wrote:
Next is the ultra flat Xperia ray - or, as some would call it, the Xperia arc in mini format.
Some also called the Neo for a smaller version of the Arc, but it clearly wasn't. They were different according to what I read here and there + my own experience as well. The Neo got bashed for being slower. And I was personally very annoyed that the audio in video-recordings done by Neo was only about 60% as loud as those done by Arc.
So is Ray really a mini version of Arc? Does it really give the same high results as Arc?
It would be really great if someone could record a small video with both Arc and Ray at the same time and upload it somewhere for comparison.
Posted by bronxdude
argh! turned off by the bundled earphones.
Posted by rikken
Yeah, those headphones are crap. But these are comming soon :LiveSound
Posted by altemyr
On 2011-08-09 10:35:39, rikken wrote:
Yeah, those headphones are crap. But these are comming soon :LiveSound
I think my MW600 would do fine too