Posted by Eva-m00
Is it just me or do the menus all run a lot slower than previous SE phones?
I have a K750 which is miles smoother when scrolling through menus whereas the spanking new K850 judders through like an old age pensioner.
Even the other halfs W880i is faster! Can a software update remedy this? As it stands it's a pain in the arse.
Posted by Sir-SonyEricsson-man
Mine is very fast.
Posted by kotsianis7
Yes,K850i is pretty slow,but it is based in a new platform,so we must expect some firmware updates which will make it faster!
Posted by Mizzle
The problem is because it's based on this new platform, and it's the first from
with this platform (along with W910). So these first won't be fully optimized.
Posted by SpartanX
Im sure that we will see the speed getting increased with every new update. And that will come very soon, im sure... Maybe in weeks or even a few days.
Posted by kimot01
yeah...new flatform but with the same processor as k800
Posted by Dogmann
@thecoolsha
Sorry but i just don't understand the point you are trying to get across, yes it is a new platform but it was delayed before launching. Surely the time to optimise it and get the firmware right is before launch not after? Every one knows no device from any manufacturer is perfect at launch and unfortunately we have grown to accept this.
Buy why should customers have to put up with buggy firmware that needs to optimised to function as what they believed they were buying and paid top prices for. A few minor bugs to be sorted out with quick release of Firmware is one thing although IMO still not right again from any manufacturer but these problems really can't be described as either minor or just a few IMO.
I am not having a go at SE as they most certainly are not the only ones guilty of this not by along way. But this still does not excuse what is happening, how can it.
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Posted by Mizzle
On 2007-10-21 14:52:12, Dogmann wrote:
@thecoolsha
Sorry but i just don't understand the point you are trying to get across, yes it is a new platform but it was delayed before launching. Surely the time to optimise it and get the firmware right is before launch not after?
Who says it's been delayed? Well, have you ever had an OS that's been fully optimized while launching? Not really, eh. Updates have always come!
On 2007-10-21 14:52:12, Dogmann wrote:
Every one knows no device from any manufacturer is perfect at launch and unfortunately we have grown to accept this.
Dude, you've just said that the time to optimize is before launch, and now agrees that none is perfect at launch...
On 2007-10-21 14:52:12, Dogmann wrote:
Buy why should customers have to put up with buggy firmware that needs to optimised to function as what they believed they were buying and paid top prices for. A few minor bugs to be sorted out with quick release of Firmware is one thing although IMO still not right again from any manufacturer but these problems really can't be described as either minor or just a few IMO.
Understandable, and I fully agree. But dude, you've got to remember that this is the first phone with this platform - if you have a look at W880 (A100), then its firmware is without doubt less buggy than the first K800 firmware was. It gets enhanced over time, and this is quite normal.
On 2007-10-21 14:52:12, Dogmann wrote:
I am not having a go at SE as they most certainly are not the only ones guilty of this not by along way. But this still does not excuse what is happening, how can it.
Agreed.
is not the only one, and it is not excuse, but that's what happens these days. And it's starting to become normal. Unfortunately.
Posted by ahmed-sama
Is it a trend that always new SE phones are always experiencing problems with firmwares??
Posted by plankgatan
On 2007-10-21 14:28:22, Sir-SonyEricsson-man wrote:
Mine is very fast.
mine to...its "much" faster then my old w810...(you need to DPY flash (uppdate) your phone...then it will run more smothly
(just reinstall (DPY flash) the same firmware by your local work shop....
DPY flash can only be done by a work shop..(it install the software on a clean memory......its the best way to install your firmware...less buggs, etc)
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Posted by Eva-m00
On 2007-10-21 15:03:29, plankgatan wrote:
On 2007-10-21 14:28:22, Sir-SonyEricsson-man wrote:
Mine is very fast.
mine to...its "much" faster then my old w810...(you need to DPY flash (uppdate) your phone...then it will run more smothly
(just reinstall (DPY flash) the same firmware by your local work shop....
DPY flash can only be done by a work shop..(it install the software on a clean memory......its the best way to install your firmware...less buggs, etc)
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-10-21 14:07 ]
And how would I find a 'workshop' that can do this? I live in Liverpool, UK.
Posted by SE-Naz
Ring up SE or Carphone Warehouse...
See where a local SERVICE centre is to you... and take it to them.
Cheers
ENJOY
Posted by plankgatan
On 2007-10-21 15:16:37, Eva-m00 wrote:
On 2007-10-21 15:03:29, plankgatan wrote:
On 2007-10-21 14:28:22, Sir-SonyEricsson-man wrote:
Mine is very fast.
mine to...its "much" faster then my old w810...(you need to DPY flash (uppdate) your phone...then it will run more smothly
(just reinstall (DPY flash) the same firmware by your local work shop....
DPY flash can only be done by a work shop..(it install the software on a clean memory......its the best way to install your firmware...less buggs, etc)
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-10-21 14:07 ]
And how would I find a 'workshop' that can do this? I live in Liverpool, UK.
he he he...you missunderstod me little..look here i live in MUCH smaller town then you..(im been in Liverpool by the way...nice town
)just go to a cell phone work shop and DPY flash (uppdate) your k850.....ITS FREE...2 years warranty you know...then it will run much better...
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Posted by technical-expert
Well your saying k850i is slow, but w960i is more slower than that.
Note:I have tried both the phones
[ This Message was edited by: arunvc on 2007-10-21 15:19 ]
Posted by Mizzle
On 2007-10-21 15:24:08, arunvc wrote:
well your saying k850i is slow,but w960i more slower than that
That's out of topic, and a lame comment, if I may add.
Posted by NightBlade
On 2007-10-21 15:24:08, arunvc wrote:
well your saying k850i is slow,but w960i more slower than that
That's incorrect (both factually and gramatically).
Ok, someone stop me...
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Posted by Eva-m00
I'm tempted to return my K850i to CPW tomorrow.
I simply cannot believe the bugs and how slow the UI runs in comparison to a K800. There is no guarantee that they'll be fixed either and to be honest I don't fancy being lumbered with this phone unless I get a solid guarantee that these problems will be fixed.
SE really need to make some sort of statement on these issues and fast.
[copy and pasted from a reply I made in the K850i firmware thread]
Posted by LCARS-Expert
On 2007-10-21 14:49:47, kimot01 wrote:
yeah...new flatform but with the same processor as k800
Where did you get that information?
Posted by Mizzle
On 2007-10-21 17:08:11, LCARS-Expert wrote:
On 2007-10-21 14:49:47, kimot01 wrote:
yeah...new flatform but with the same processor as k800
Where did you get that information?
I guess he read it somewhere here at the forums, but it's true. Same CPU (more RAM, though), new platform.
Posted by TomasL
On 2007-10-21 14:28:22, Sir-SonyEricsson-man wrote:
Mine is very fast.
I must agree. Mine is very fast too. At least as fast as my K800i.
Posted by dcuk
Until a firmware update is availble,
For now, to gain a slight speed-up on menus and general feel of the phone, choose a basic theme like Clarity and/or make sure you have a static backdrop picture instead of an animated one.
Posted by roblightbody
Yes its slow, frustratingly slow.
Overall, i've decided I don't like it and am going to send it back (if they'll take it).
I've had a K800, K750, K610 and T68i, and have liked them all. But I don't like the K850. Plasticky, slow, fiddly and generally cheap and frustrating to use.
Posted by kjao
i just tried it and i have to admit my excitement over it died almost instantly. i'm glad i haven't bought it yet. will wait for a firmware update to see if the laggy response of the UI is improved.
would really appreciate being able to customize the 3 softkeys too...i find the media softkey a waste.
Posted by Sebby
Mine is quite slow compared with my W810i. But there's no doubt in my mind the SE will improve it with firmware updates.
Remembering back to the T610i days, the phone was slow (especially animated pictures), until SE brought out a new firmware, which transformed the phone!