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Give T610 Java MIDP 2 Support (irc/msn/bluetooth/etc...) |
wrath000
Joined: May 14, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Norway
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If the phone supports and api, then you can use it to program for the phone. So if T610 supported the BlueTooth jsr, you could have used the api to make a program that uses BlueTooth on the T610 |
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runkarn
Joined: May 27, 2003
Posts: 62
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Again... -->  se java
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rebel
Joined: Jun 17, 2003
Posts: 19
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even the java games on the phone are dragging slow...
the implementation is horrendous. |
roopi
Joined: May 30, 2002
Posts: 55
From: b'ham uk
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32bit 32mhz ARM7 processor should be more than adequate to run java apps at a good speed but the t610 is slow. leaves us only to conclude that its down to inefficient software or SE has incorporated their own variant of J2ME in which the apps need optimising for (just like siemens phones) |
burger
Joined: Mar 21, 2002
Posts: 35
From: Sweden
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On 2003-06-18 19:59:33, roopi wrote:
32bit 32mhz ARM7 processor should be more than adequate to run java apps at a good speed but the t610 is slow. leaves us only to conclude that its down to inefficient software or SE has incorporated their own variant of J2ME in which the apps need optimising for (just like siemens phones)
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What processor does the T610 have? is it a old 8-bit(or 16-bit) ARM just like the T68i? |
roopi
Joined: May 30, 2002
Posts: 55
From: b'ham uk
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its 2 processors in the T610 according to sources from mophun:-
8bit AVR 12Mhz
16bit ARM7 32Mhz (but best to my knowledge ARM7 is 32bit wide) |
wrath000
Joined: May 14, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Norway
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Well, I do hope it's just bad implementation thats at fault here. That means they would be able to fix it with firmware updates.
[ This Message was edited by: wrath000 on 2003-06-19 08:33 ] |
wrath000
Joined: May 14, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Norway
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Does anyone know how proccessor speed of T610 compares to other phones? |
ukchalky
Joined: Jun 20, 2003
Posts: 69
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Hi.. first post, so go easy!
I've been looking quite closely at the phones that are available at the moment, and I dont think that the lack of raw sockets is actually that surprising. Very few MIDP 1 phones provide the additional socket support (correct me if im wrong), including the majority of series 40 Nokias.
I've seen it mentioned in this post that it is probably possible for these things to be corrected via a firmware upgrade, but can any of you confirm if this is actually true?
I know that I want a t610, but I also know that I want instant messaging on my phone! SE are gonna lose sales over this! |
englishpunk
Joined: Jun 28, 2003
Posts: 8
From: Northampton, UK
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The Java is painfully slow in the T610, really not worth using, in fact it's hard to understand why they bothered at all ( apart for conning people inot buying the phone because is supports java ), mophun is stupidly quicker and obviously supports multiple keypresses at once, which is handy for decent games.
I actually find the T610 itself slow at times, sometimes painfully so, so much it looks lie it has crashed, which probably doesn't help.
Back to the point though, they seriously need to overhaul java with at least access to GPRS ( for webviewer etc. ), sockets would be nice ( but as has been said, similar phones don't have the functionality either, only the siemens do i believe ), but at the moment there's really no point it in even being there  |
jackpipe
Joined: Jul 09, 2003
Posts: 19
From: UK
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From a programming point of view, it seems it's possible do sockets with some java tricks -
- obviously this doesn't help for pre-packed software, but it would presumably allow specific versions of eg. jabber for t610.
Can anyone confirm that the http stuff works over GPRS, and that its just the lack of sockets on MIDP 1.0 that is the issue here ?
One post above hints that the webviewer doesn't work - as far as i know that only uses http, and so should work ok on midp 1.0, unless there's an additional T610 GPRS limitation ? |
Cosinus
Joined: Jul 04, 2003
Posts: 3
From: Russia
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I agree that it's very disappointing, but do you guys think these posts here can realy motivate SE developers to fix these socket things? I'm not sure they will even read this thread 
But anyway like I already said in one of the topics, it's one of the main things which hold me back from buying a T610. |
c96sthl
Joined: Mar 31, 2002
Posts: > 500
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Remember the intro page of T610 when SONYERICSSON put it on their CEBIT page?
It stated clearly ICQ client but later they take away tht piece of info.
Same happen to HBH35 which was in the list of accesories support by T610.
SO they might be high chance for firmware upgrd to let T610 run ICQ since HBH35 is in fact a real product and not typing error |
wrath000
Joined: May 14, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Norway
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Now that you mention it... there is actually text-labels for AIM in the service menu... |
Zacay
Joined: May 18, 2003
Posts: 258
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hmm didn't want to start a new thread so I used "Search" !!! 
Well.. I mailed my contact and asked him if he could get me some answers, if our beautiful phone could get an update with Socket support ..
Can't we all sign a petetion, or every one sends a mail per day to SE support and ask and request this support 
I am halfway of doing an MSN for java WITH socket support phones, hopefully this program will work on most java phones that has socket support... BAD FOR T610 if they never will add this support. .and bad for my cause I have to buy a new phone when I am done |
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Posted: 2003-06-18 15:23
