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Geoffxx
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Sony have nailed it with this phone - simple as that
I used to like taking photos with dedicated camera and did some experimenting over the years but stopped my enthusiasm and lost interest mainly because I couldn't be bothered carrying the kit around with me
This Sony puts a lot of it in my pocket and I will be using it more and more with rekindled interest, I love it
Sony the innovators again showing the way for the rest as usual, looking back over the years Sony is responsible for many firsts and the rest played catch up - they have done it again
I will be buying one of these without a doubt, just not sure when
One of my friends takes his SLR out and runs some shots off and they are great, I'm going to bait him with some of my own - I think when he asks me what I used to take the pictures he will be quite shocked when I tell him - my phone - his Hauwei (that he worships) cannot do lol |
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Hawk12
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Now they need to understand costumers do not want a 7.7mm + 4000mAh.
They do not mind having 8.6mm (without cam) if they get 4500 or 5000 mAh.
I wonder what they plan for mark iii.
Larger sensor has slower readout than smaller.
Unless they put dram, it is very hard to keep 20fps AF with 1/1.5 or 1/1.2".
Isocell HM1 has only 30% of the speed compared to Exmor 557. |
cool_sauce
Joined: Feb 20, 2020
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On 2020-07-10 19:13:56, Hawk12 wrote:
Now they need to understand costumers do not want a 7.7mm + 4000mAh.
They do not mind having 8.6mm (without cam) if they get 4500 or 5000 mAh.
I wonder what they plan for mark iii.
Larger sensor has slower readout than smaller.
Unless they put dram, it is very hard to keep 20fps AF with 1/1.5 or 1/1.2".
Isocell HM1 has only 30% of the speed compared to Exmor 557.
100% all three sensors will be Exmor
100% improved zoom quality because of the better sensor
Most likely all three sensors will have 20fps burst
I hope main sensor to be capable of 30fps |
Shino03
Joined: Dec 22, 2008
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On 2020-07-10 19:13:56, Hawk12 wrote:
Now they need to understand costumers do not want a 7.7mm + 4000mAh.
They do not mind having 8.6mm (without cam) if they get 4500 or 5000 mAh.
I wonder what they plan for mark iii.
Larger sensor has slower readout than smaller.
Unless they put dram, it is very hard to keep 20fps AF with 1/1.5 or 1/1.2".
Isocell HM1 has only 30% of the speed compared to Exmor 557.
Hope they put back that DRAM technology coupled with a larger sensor. The 1ii still cannot match the 960 fps of previous xperias thanks to DRAM technology.
This 20fps bursts shooting is their compensation for their poor HDR.
Funny enough as I remember, they're the first to have HDR in a phone camera. 
Now everyone's beating them in that front.
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Hawk12
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You can not compare one that uses HDR 100% of the time of another that does not.
Compare HDR on x HDR on.
And HDR off x HDR off ...
Why would they use only exmor again if they can charge same for the phone and use cheap isocell?
Imagine if with isocell they make $10 more per unit sold.
It can give them millions of dollars more.
I doubt it will change.
Someone here said last year mark ii would use only exmor.
** do not understand the purpose of offering 4K60 if not all three cameras are allowed to use it.
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tai020381
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Fastest phone in the world now
https://youtu.be/a2sVvJdV1fs |
moogoo
Joined: Oct 25, 2002
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i don't enjoy these so called speed tests...
they are comfortable calling a winner with a split second difference, but they don't take into account the split second difference in them tapping the screen. we aren't robots. no human can synchronize taps exactly.
it would take a bit of set up, but a more accurate test would be to robotic setup that starts the clock when touch is detected.
moogoo
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davidsic
Joined: May 30, 2004
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Review : https://www.androidauthority.com/sony-xperia-1-ii-review-1135013/ |
Supa_Fly
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On 2020-07-09 01:09:26, MyP910 wrote:
I think this video shows the capability of the auto focus by Xperia 1ii. Maybe Xperia 1ii is the king of auto focus.
The first few minutes seems like both the G20 and 1mII have issues with autofocus. To me I've always tap:2:focus on the screen before moving about to rely on auto-focus and this video shows why many people do that. Still the adjustment over about 2mins shows Sony's algo's are adjusting very rapidly for best quality. The changes in direction show that even with today's technology it's hard to keep up during that drive.
Hawk much appreciated for sharing this.
I'm curious for you new Xperia 1mII owners ... what headsets, and home speakers do you own? Thanks.
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Supa_Fly
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Grrr. "The fastest" at what exactly before we need to click the link? Don't got time to find out.
Wasted time for another UI 'speed' test and a super rush through SpeedTest for network download/upload and latency test.
Is it not time someone makes a proper script to run so that micro delays from someone's fingers of 2 different hands don't affect the outcome? Unless you're ambidextrous chances are when you select 2 icons on two different phones, 1 will be selected slightly sooner than the other - our brains work that way with the dominant hand.
Micro differences for bragging rights is neither here or there. It's about the overall quality that the phone gives us that I'm sure Sony users are looking for.
Speaking of which ... how is the physical quality of the mII in terms of rigidity? Any back pocket carries worried about the Xperia bending with its sleek frame?
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moogoo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWYbs5sxMHQ
engadget reviewer says sony will release an update soon after USA release that will tune battery, camera, and provide RAW support. who knows if that's something new or this reviewer is just taking the "update will be provided to give raw support soon" and putting his own interpretation on it.
@Supa_fly - agreed on the so called "speed tests". they are ridiculous.
ALSO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlUruT_T8nM
very impressive showing of low light ability. comparison vs. iphone 11 pro max doing 30 second shutter on tripod.
the differences in the images taken by both phones is remarkable. 1ii looks like it was shot in the morning or afternoon (he also says this in the video).
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2020-07-12 03:37 ] moogoo
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tai020381
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Speed test versus Mi10 pro!
https://youtu.be/uRJZemNOsdo
P.S
For those who do not like such video test or waste their life do not click it. Nobody is pointing a gun at you and forcing it upon you to do it. These type of videos were created because some people dig it and how the phone manages its ram (thats why and hence the video production )
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Hawk12
Joined: Nov 29, 2018
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Engadget: Sony told that shortly after July 24 (the day 1 II released in the states), a first major camera firmware updates will be released. What user can expect; better battery life tweaks, improved camera performances and RAW photos in PhotoPro app.
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moogoo
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already said that...
moogoo
Nokia 5160 -> Nokia 8260 -> SE T68i -> SE K700i -> SE Z710 -> SE Xperia X10a -> Sony Xperia S -> Sony Xperia Z1 -> Sony Xperia XZ -> Sony Xperia XZ Premium -> Sony Xperia 1ii
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tai020381
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Wow photo pro long exposure in action! ~
https://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4551/5540092/1/ |
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Posted: 2020-07-10 19:05
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