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Hawk12
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Posted: 2020-02-24 18:16
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Many tech sites say 4G variant for USA, but sony website says 5G model.
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Posted: 2020-02-24 20:28
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Man, it was ridiculous price before for the Xperia 1 and now it's beyond that.
The question is now whether to stick with the preorder of the Galaxy S20 Ultra or go back to the glorious Sony.
It is the first phone in many years from Sony I want so bad.
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moogoo
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Posted: 2020-02-24 20:49
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@McKinley - maybe there will be a good bundle, which will make the price more reasonable.


still seeing a lot saying it is UFS 2.1 ...wonder what it really is.

@acsarris - yea i hear you. i am hestitant too! the only way i'm getting it right away is if there is a really irresistable bundle that makes the 1200 euro price easier to swallow. otherwise i will just wait until the price drops by the end of the summer or better yet, when the holidays roll around.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2020-02-24 20:00 ]
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ascariss
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Posted: 2020-02-24 20:50
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1200 euros is a tad too rich for my blood. I think I'll just buy a new laptop this year rather than a phone.

Perhaps once it drops to 800 euros or less, maybe I will get one. No phone is worth more than 1000 euros.
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Posted: 2020-02-24 21:45
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On 2020-02-24 12:51:45, Archdragoon wrote:
Guy from factory in Thailand confirmed that Xperia 1 mk2 has UFS 3.0

Trying to get info about DAC from him. Not sure would he know about that.



nice! can you also confirm if RAM is LPDDR5 or not?
moogoo
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Posted: 2020-02-24 21:49
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are we really gonna take the word of some "guy from factory"? maybe he was mistaken.

i wish sony would confirm.

was also looking into the 5G thing. if sony does indeed disable 5G for US release, i guess it's because none of the US bands are currently supported by it anyway. at least, as far as I can tell. it's difficult to find out which bands each of the US carriers actually supports.

all i can find is ATT will do 5G on 850mhz, which is not any of the bands supported.
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Posted: 2020-02-24 22:07
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On 2020-02-24 21:49:45, moogoo wrote:
are we really gonna take the word of some "guy from factory"? maybe he was mistaken.

i wish sony would confirm.

was also looking into the 5G thing. if sony does indeed disable 5G for US release, i guess it's because none of the US bands are currently supported by it anyway. at least, as far as I can tell. it's difficult to find out which bands each of the US carriers actually supports.

all i can find is ATT will do 5G on 850mhz, which is not any of the bands supported.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2020-02-24 21:01 ]



I don't know about the factory guy, but given Alvin's track record, I believe when he says "confirmed"
moogoo
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Posted: 2020-02-24 22:15
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@racsony - Alvin is not archdragoon
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Posted: 2020-02-24 22:19
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Some people on reddit were discussing prices.
Someone pointed what Realme GM said.

For example, the combo 865/5G increases price by almost $90 compared to SD855.
Then you have one new exmor, bigger battery, ToF, the newer screen (I suppose it is not same), they have to create software that has Alpha stuff, faster storage of higher capacity, faster ram.

Xiaomi CEO said ddr5 costs 20% more than ddr4x. That 865/5G is about 2x the 855.

Sadly, this is reality. In few years, there wont be flagship from Samsung, Sony, LG, Google, Htc, OnePlus, Oppo and Huawei for less than €2000/$2000.
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RacSony
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Posted: 2020-02-24 22:27
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On 2020-02-24 22:15:07, moogoo wrote:
@racsony - Alvin is not archdragoon



you are right. my bad. I mistook him for Alvin
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Posted: 2020-02-24 22:50
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5 upgrades to get excited about.....
I'm so happy 'cause today
I've found my friends ...
They're in my head
Hawk12
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Posted: 2020-02-24 22:53
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He looks honest to me.
Unlike other ppl on youtube.
Archdragoon
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Posted: 2020-02-25 01:19
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Right, Guy from factory can provide such false information. If you think you can't trust. Just ignore it.
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RacSony
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Posted: 2020-02-25 02:34
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On 2020-02-25 01:19:53, Archdragoon wrote:
Right, Guy from factory can provide such false information. If you think you can't trust. Just ignore it.



Archdragoon, my apology if I sounded offensive to you.

I just don't know much about your track record.

I think everyone here agree MVP leaker of this new Xperia is Alvin, although his pain in the ass hints caused us serious insomnia
moogoo
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Posted: 2020-02-25 02:38
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i think there are still a lot of questions, which happens every year with the new phones. for some reason, spec sheets don't include ALL the details we want to know and on top of that, there are usually a lot of mistakes. we'll know more as time goes on and people do reviews and tear downs.

i'm starting to rationalize the cost of this phone.. i have been in the market to start looking for a nice camera, but if this can cover 80% of my use cases, then it would save me money on a camera.

i'm looking forward to more in depth reviews to see how well that larger sensor works and how well all the autofocus software features works.

and now the long wait begins... no reviews for a couple months and nothing in our hands probably until end of may.

wonder when preorders will start...
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