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Posted: 2019-10-19 08:48
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It could be that the af is more accurate with dual pixel too. But the overall exposure is too dark, this is present in good light also. They should make this a tad brighter otherwise even if it has better detail and sharpness it doesn't show unless you look closely.

X8 orange one looks OK but this design is exaggerates the long aspect ratio. They should either shrink the top bezel or just divide it and make it more symmetrical. And with Sd630 if it was bulletproof it ain't worth 500. Midranges should be built around CPU, not screen or anything body related.

Zack said 10 team is disbanded, probably due to very bad sales performance. Maybe they'll change their midrange strategy next year or get out of it altogether.
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Posted: 2019-10-19 09:32
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I know dual pixel works better at night compared to pdaf, hybrid or laser.

Is x8 and "x20" the same device? It was told to be cancelled.
I am confused now.

X1 and 10+ have same height. .
With same screen, bezels have to be same size.
X10 must be upside down, making connectors to the top.


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Posted: 2019-10-19 11:20
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X20 is x8. Has to be. It had fps power combo like x8. It was rumored to have a better CPU but so did all of Sony's midrange before they were out.

Yes 1 and 10+ have similar dimensions and yes display is mounted upside down. That's what I am saying either do it without flipping or just cut the upper bezel and put a pop up front cam. And one size only between 6 and 6.5 a good CPU and low price. Use dragontrail if necessary.

BTW fusion images of the xz2p had softer look because of the alignment issues of different lenses, the main f1. 8 lens was sharper but a lot noisier
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Posted: 2019-10-20 13:06
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On 2019-10-19 11:20:40, Ppl wrote:
X20 is x8. Has to be. It had fps power combo like x8. It was rumored to have a better CPU but so did all of Sony's midrange before they were out.

Yes 1 and 10+ have similar dimensions and yes display is mounted upside down. That's what I am saying either do it without flipping or just cut the upper bezel and put a pop up front cam. And one size only between 6 and 6.5 a good CPU and low price. Use dragontrail if necessary.

BTW fusion images of the xz2p had softer look because of the alignment issues of different lenses, the main f1. 8 lens was sharper but a lot noisier


I would rather keep the small bezel and disable the pop up camera for the sake of water resistance , unless Sony is able to design a water resistance pop up camera, then I will agree to even out both bezels
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Posted: 2019-10-20 14:17
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There are compact waterproof cameras.
So something like Galaxy K zoom can be done with IP rating.
My old pocket Kodak has 1/2.3" 32-96mm (35mm eqv).
Even at f2.8, it can beat my current phones at night.
Since cameras have dedicated image processing.

Anyone here owns an Alpha?
I want one, but afraid apsc may be too small for my hands.
I could not find one to test.
They dont sell rx series here.


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Posted: 2019-10-20 21:27
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Interesting information from a friend in japan.X5 will be the last 4g flagship xpera (mid-range continue to be 4g) and all highend models will be 5G, at least in japanese market.
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Posted: 2019-10-21 07:20
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I wouldn't be surprised if they make the flagships 5g only even for the global market. I don't know if they can afford to make 2 versions. Maybe they'll keep the lineup small in quantity so they can focus on delivering a better experience.

Not all alphas are apsc, isn't a73 ff? If rx is what you want, why not import it?

The 10 series didn't have water resistance, they could have been a little more daring in the design department.
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Posted: 2019-10-21 07:35
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On 2019-10-20 14:17:46, Hawk12 wrote:
There are compact waterproof cameras.
So something like Galaxy K zoom can be done with IP rating.
My old pocket Kodak has 1/2.3" 32-96mm (35mm eqv).
Even at f2.8, it can beat my current phones at night.
Since cameras have dedicated image processing.

Anyone here owns an Alpha?
I want one, but afraid apsc may be too small for my hands.
I could not find one to test.
They dont sell rx series here.




Yes A7 are small for hands, you should buy A7IV onwards because they thickened the grip more for better grip.
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Posted: 2019-10-21 11:41
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I wanted A7 iii, but it is by far out of my budget at the moment.
I've been reading about a6100 lately.
Not available here yet.

I can afford a6000 kit or even A7 mark I, but old stuff are not worth.
If I decide to sell in the future or need repair.
I've lost stuff because no repair shop had the components to fix.
On internet many stuff are generic. Like cellphone screens.

Another problem is this....
There is on amazon USA a combo a6000 ( graphite) + 16-50 + 55-210 + 128GB card + accessories for $548.
It is a killer offer.
But it also tells me it is $548 + $606 ( shipping / import fees) ..
that sucks ...
For example , with fees a a7 iii would be $4000 in the end.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-10-21 18:15 ]
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Posted: 2019-10-21 21:17
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I am so sorry, I am not posting comments too frequently (I think you can see that) but I have been reading 60-70 % of the comments here since november 2006...

I am just at tiny bit tired of all ”camera-comments” (sorry again)..

I am looking for my next ”working-unit”

I have used my SGP621 Xperia Z3 Tablet compact since release (well I am well on to my second unit since I dropped my first one face down on some gravel after 4 years use, still working but the screen ..) and now, still when I pull my second SGP621-unit out of my inner pocket to make a presentation 50% of the attending people ask afterwards ...
What the @x%# is that??? SONY???

Were did you get it🤷‍♂️

Its slim, water resistant, battery efficient and it gets my work done via RDP, Chrome Cast and so on.. so pls pls SONY

🤦‍♂️ next working unit??
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Posted: 2019-10-21 22:39
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I'd love a new ultra-slim compact tablet, I'd buy one in a heartbeat. My Z3TC got sat on by someone and the battery is failing, so I'm on the look out for another 'new' one, so at least it would have a good battery. New ones are hard to find now.

I can't see an X5 Compact Tablet being released, I'd be REALLY surprised
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Posted: 2019-10-21 23:17
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Can anyone check if the bezels of Rog II are bigger than X1's?
It has front speakers and 1/2.8" selfie.
It is 4mm taller than X1, with 6,6" screen 19,5:9.
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Posted: 2019-10-22 11:18
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Rog screen is 152mm X1 151.8
Rog bezels 19mm X1 bezels 15.2mm
Rog has bigger bottom bezel. The top is nearly identical to the X1's.



That begs the question, is sony ripping people off with cheaper components?

A new tablet from Sony is extremely unlikely. You're better off with an iPad unless they introduce a foldable /rollable that'll double as a mini tablet.
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Posted: 2019-10-22 11:50
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I know that phones with speaker beside usb are louder than front speakers.
Not sure it is one reason to remove speaker.
People complained X series had low volume.

Except Apple, Samsung and maybe Microsoft, all other tablet are not doing well.
I'd never buy ipad if Sony had newer tablets.

I would do two tablets:

- Xperia 10 Tablet : 10" 16:9 FHD, SD630, 4 + 64 + sd card, 8MP selfie with 1080@60, 6000mAh, usb C, 18W, plastic body
- Xperia 5 Tablet : 10" 16:9 QHD , SD855, 6 + 256 + sd card, 13MP selfie with 4K30, 8800mAh, usb c , 18W, metal body, front speakers, ip68


I love this speaker grills of ROG. Much nicer.
Z5 style was much better.
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Posted: 2019-10-22 14:29
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Xperia 1 Professional Edition.
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