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Hawk12
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Samsung used to limit 4K by own choice.
Just need to change things on android to escape it.
Low bitrate and 5 min.
Wouldn't in this case better offer maybe 4K90 or even 6K30 with 160Mbps without time limit?
Imagine how much compression it has.
Bitrates dont seem much different from s10 4k60.
If Sony puts a 28mm 64MP just for 8K, it is failure.
People comment at DPR that 64MP 28mm will become 7MP at 84mm.
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moogoo
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it's the first phone to offer this feature. in that, it's not a failure.
when sony put out 960fps super slo mo it was only 720p and very difficult (even now) to capture the moment you want to capture. by your standards - that's a failure. yes they've improved it to 1080p but in general, it's still a difficult feature to truly take advantage of due to its implementation.
just saying it's not a failure for samsung to limit it. it just makes it more gimmicky and useful for marketing.
every company does it.
a failure is when a company creates a feature, implements it the way it should be implemented to get actual use out of it, and it falls flat on its face because it can't be used at all. that's a failure. as implemented, 8k recording is a gimmick for many reasons.
anyway - back on topic. i am excited to see what sony announces. i would hope they don't just tweak xperia 1 and call it an upgrade. yes, adding back the headphone jack, front facing stereo speakers, and bumping specs is technically an upgrade, but with samsung announcing such big strides forward in the mobile innovation space, I would hope sony does more than just tweak it's year old model a bit. i'd like to see sony bring some "world's first" features as they have been recently. and not just as a gimmick, but as a useful and strong feature.
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AlvinZahranM
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Keep your hopes down, but I think it might be a more further leap rather than the improvements from xz2/xz3 to xperia 1.
You might be surprised that they will have something better, compared to the whole s20 series on some parts (in both hardware and software).
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Hawk12
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My point is quality may be not much better than actual 4K60 due to huge compression.
Lower than we would expect from 8K.
If Sony does same, it is waste of space and resources.
Much better if they use a variant of the 48MP 1/1.3 the Semicon will sell to BBk and use as wide.
Also, the bokeh will be just a crop, then artificial blur.
Crop wont eliminate the face distortion caused by the wider lenses.
IMHO, if the phone brings 12MP 1/3.4" 16mm isocell + 12MP 1/1.7" 26mm imx555 + 64MP 1/1.7" 28mm isocell , I will be beyond disappointed.
Leap = 8K HDR ?
Are midranges any better than 2019? You can say just yes, no or I have no idea.
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napahlm
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There is literally no leaks this far on? 12 days to go and nothing but guesses. It must be some kind of record? |
sidneylopsides
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Yeah it's unusual for Sony to manage leaks this well. Must be the new management!
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Hawk12
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Punishment must be death I suppose. 🤣🤣
I think I saw photos of xz2 maybe 2 days before mwc.
I think the midranges will use the design onleaks called XA3.
Flagship must the one one called 5+.
I have no idea if there is a L4.
Someone here said 3 at mwc and one later.
This "one later" would be Ace 2020?
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moogoo
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And just like that ... MWC is no more.
Fully cancelled due to coronavirus
moogoo
Nokia 5160 -> Nokia 8260 -> SE T68i -> SE K700i -> SE Z710 -> SE Xperia X10a -> Sony Xperia S -> Sony Xperia Z1 -> Sony Xperia XZ -> Sony Xperia XZ Premium -> Sony Xperia 1ii
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badassmam
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A friend told me that if you take a still image or frame from the 8K footage, the quality and detail is insane. That's a good enough reason to have it. |
RacSony
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new xperia has both 4g and 5g? how is it possible with SD865?
https://androidnext.info/?p=2094
I usually don't trust a comment post but I remember zackbuck said the same thing a few days ago. |
Hawk12
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Yes. It is 33MP.
But considering Samsung, excess of NR will erase most of them.
Their priority is smoothness and punchy colours.
To make instagram "happier".
iPhoneArena posted few night shots of Ultra.
Before you even click on the images you see part of scenario are too soft.
I have no idea what this sensor does, but those quadbayer are often using higher ISO (more than 1000).
Many reviews on gsmarena show it.
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sidneylopsides
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8K frames are about 32Mp aren't they? Even without Amazing compression you've got a lot of detail there.
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Hawk12
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It depends on ratio.
8K tvs are 7680x4320.
Almost 33,2 million pixels.
4k HDR vid of x1 is still 4K because one side is 3840, despite screenshot 21:9 is 6,6MP.
From wiki page of 8K res. Types of 8K:
7680 x 2160
7680 x 3200
7680 x 3240
7680 x 4320
8192 x 4320
8192 x 4608
8192 x 5120
8192 x 8192
If xperia brings 8K 21:9, resolution is 7680 x 3288 (25,25MP) ...
" 哇，索尼会不会搞一个 8K HDR 摄录出来？" Mr Buks
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AlvinZahranM
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On 2020-02-12 18:33:24, sidneylopsides wrote:
Yeah it's unusual for Sony to manage leaks this well. Must be the new management!
Not that unusual, they’ve done a pretty awesome job preventing the leaks to spread in 2018 with XZ2. They’ve also managed to do a similarly good job in 2017. Nobody knew about the naming and specs of xperia 1 until 2 weeks before the event.
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RacSony
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AlvinZahranM, did you delete "hint" ?come on, now that tonny is missing, you are the only person giving us fan! |
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