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vivftp
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Posted: 2019-02-26 21:37
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No camera samples that I've seen. I am very curious the reason they went with 12 MP sensors and didn't utilize the 48MP sensor that everyone else is using. Makes me wonder what these 12MP sensors are capable of, or if it was a sacrifice they had to make to be able to put in OIS and not make the device too thick
tai020381
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Posted: 2019-02-26 23:33
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On 2019-02-26 21:37:38, vivftp wrote:
No camera samples that I've seen. I am very curious the reason they went with 12 MP sensors and didn't utilize the 48MP sensor that everyone else is using. Makes me wonder what these 12MP sensors are capable of, or if it was a sacrifice they had to make to be able to put in OIS and not make the device too thick


Its Sony. They Make sensors. Have faith in them.
vivftp
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Posted: 2019-02-27 00:02
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On 2019-02-26 23:33:35, tai020381 wrote:
Its Sony. They Make sensors. Have faith in them.


lol, I do. Just curious about these decisions since these 48MP sensors are the new hotness.
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Posted: 2019-02-27 09:07
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Perhaps it may be 48MP sensor but locked pixel binning at 12MP?
nikola1970
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Posted: 2019-02-27 09:28
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Why would they use 48mpx sensor? Who needs 48mpx?

More pixels !== better quality.
herasymcuk
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Posted: 2019-02-27 09:42
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On 2019-02-26 21:37:38, vivftp wrote:
No camera samples that I've seen. I am very curious the reason they went with 12 MP sensors and didn't utilize the 48MP sensor that everyone else is using. Makes me wonder what these 12MP sensors are capable of, or if it was a sacrifice they had to make to be able to put in OIS and not make the device too thick

Exactly!!!! Nobody needed of OIS. Market and trend wanted it only. Sony used the biggest sensors always on their phone. And what we have now to follow the trend? 3 tiny ridicuolus sensors...But ohh yeahhhh we have the fXXking OIS. They will probably produce cleaner images, thanks to the larger photodiodes. But we lose details. Personally I prefer to have more noisy images, to clean up easily with photoshop and similar, but with much more details.
nikola1970
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Posted: 2019-02-27 10:32
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What Sony had of the fact they used biggest sensors in their phones? Nothing!

Sony was always behind the competition in the picture quality, even though competition used this "tiny ridiculous sensors"...
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Posted: 2019-02-27 11:23
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Are there any Night Mode Scene for the photos or camera or anything like that for low-light photography, just like the Pixel 3 or Mi Mix 3 features, or even XZ2P High-ISO at 51200? Just wondering [addsig]
badassmam
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Posted: 2019-02-27 13:01
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@Moogoo

I don't wear tight jeans at all, but I'm only 5 foot 5 inches so I'm not that tall either. Like I've mentioned before, I'm changing from XZ1 to XZ2 Compact because of comfort and that ties in with what nikola1970 has said regarding 4K screen and the general move towards such features which are good in some ways but at the cost of battery, I'd rather not. Teenagers do everything on their phones so I guess they would watch movies etc. but a lot of other people only watch video on the train and then move straight to their TV when they get home. Everyone will listen to music and browse the net, emails etc. so for me I would take a hit on screen resolution for battery life. While 4K seems like overkill but if its the same price as the S10+ then sure, go for the 4K screen and tall aspect ratio.
Archdragoon
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Posted: 2019-02-27 13:24
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Let see the result first and let many people judge what do they like. Most of people that I know believe that Xperia 1 can take better photo than what XZ2P can.

Although I still wonder would the main camera still distort like crap ?
[ This Message was edited by: Archdragoon on 2019-02-27 12:32 ]
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hgautam
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Posted: 2019-02-27 14:56
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On 2019-02-27 09:42:24, herasymcuk wrote:

On 2019-02-26 21:37:38, vivftp wrote:
No camera samples that I've seen. I am very curious the reason they went with 12 MP sensors and didn't utilize the 48MP sensor that everyone else is using. Makes me wonder what these 12MP sensors are capable of, or if it was a sacrifice they had to make to be able to put in OIS and not make the device too thick

Exactly!!!! Nobody needed of OIS. Market and trend wanted it only. Sony used the biggest sensors always on their phone. And what we have now to follow the trend? 3 tiny ridicuolus sensors...But ohh yeahhhh we have the fXXking OIS. They will probably produce cleaner images, thanks to the larger photodiodes. But we lose details. Personally I prefer to have more noisy images, to clean up easily with photoshop and similar, but with much more details.


OIS was greatly needed... Have you ever tried other flagships? Whenever I use my wife's iPhone in low light the pictures always come out much less blurry or no blur at all because it has OIS. Same for my brother's Galaxy or one plus. But I struggle in the same situations with my xperia and no matter how still I try to be most of my shots end blured. I too prefer higher megapixels like16 or 19 and was expecting something like the 48mp sensor which even without OIS is as good as another flagships.
herasymcuk
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Posted: 2019-02-27 16:46
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Come on guys...i have an xz2p...i still have the xzp and xz....and apart the normal xz...the other 2 are a step better than the other competitor. My brother-in-law has an iphone x. every time he looks at a picture on my phones he exclaims wow. In manual mode, we mean. And using the physical shutter button. Most users shoot in auto mode....
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Posted: 2019-02-27 23:12
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The overall ability of previous Xperia models is very good, but they require more effort than a Galaxy for example. For most people it is easier to take a good picture with an ois even if an equivalent Xperia would be just as good or better with some effort.

I have no doubt that the Xperia 1 will have the best Xperia camera to date. With better stabilization, better noise reduction it would also appeal to a wider audience.

I think that the Xperia 1 truly marks a new beginning for Xperia.

P.S. People complain about sensor size. As a matter of fact the pixels in the 1 are actually bigger than ever and that is what you should be considering.
[ This Message was edited by: xpr on 2019-02-27 22:14 ]
Archdragoon
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Posted: 2019-02-28 01:20
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On 2019-02-27 23:12:30, xpr wrote:
P.S. People complain about sensor size. As a matter of fact the pixels in the 1 are actually bigger than ever and that is what you should be considering.


Don't really get you on this one.
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vivftp
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Posted: 2019-02-28 01:24
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On 2019-02-28 01:20:06, Archdragoon wrote:

On 2019-02-27 23:12:30, xpr wrote:
P.S. People complain about sensor size. As a matter of fact the pixels in the 1 are actually bigger than ever and that is what you should be considering.


Don't really get you on this one.



I believe they're stating that even though the sensors are smaller than the IMX400 used in past flagships each pixel is larger due to the lower megapixel count. This could allow for better low light capabilities
[ This Message was edited by: vivftp on 2019-02-28 00:25 ]
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