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Posted: 2019-08-27 17:25
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New iPhone and the pixel are also rumored to have matte backs. Considering it was Xperia who started the matte finish with frosted glass, it's good to hear they aren't late to another design trend.

Hey ascariss, did you see all of the colors?
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Posted: 2019-08-27 18:11
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IFA is not a mobile focused show.

I have seen some press photos of a new xperia, not sure what model it is, but it is almost identical to the renders from earlier this year. see below

https://www.gsmarena.com/sony[....]ears_in_renders-news-37045.php

The real phone has a more matte finish than the shiny one seen in the render. The back panel does lack the FPS and it appears to be on the side now. It also features 3 cameras like the xperia 1, but from the photos I could not tell if the 3 cams were the same as the 1 or different, but they are in the same place as the render. And yes just like the render, the bottom speaker grill is now on the bottom of the device, no longer on the screen.
[ This Message was edited by: ascariss on 2019-08-27 16:25 ]



Nice info.

Have you seen the photo of other device announced at IFA, such as Xperia 20?

Also, did you get to see the actual device name of "xperia 2"?
Also, any color information?
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Posted: 2019-08-27 18:57
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While I can only confirm for 100% the black colour, in one photo I did see what looked to be a dark blue but it could have been black with the lighting playing tricks o make it more blue than black.

I have not seen the name of the device so I can't say which one it is for 100%, they were press photos, so nothing was written to identify the model. I have not seen any other phone, but I did not see all the press photos.
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Posted: 2019-08-28 04:53
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sorry about off-topic.
Is Zackbucks saying XZ2 is not updated to android 10?
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Posted: 2019-08-28 11:19
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Must be something else.
The phones listed to earn A10 are XZ2 series, XZ3 , X1, X10 and X10+.

91 pts rear.
78 pts selfie.

They dont like exposure nor colors.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-08-28 11:55 ]
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Posted: 2019-08-28 16:41
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https://www.dxomark.com/sony-xperia-1-camera-review/

DXOMARK proves once again that their scoring system is based on manufacturer payments rather than camera assessment.

Those who pay directly or indirectly (indirectly = purchasing DXO's software) get the good results.

Pathetic to point that certain youtubers are more reliable than DXO.
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Posted: 2019-08-28 17:55
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Many ppl on weibo say they are paid.
Samples of XZP, XZ3 and 1 they posted look worse than Z2.
How is it possible?
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Posted: 2019-08-28 18:08
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On 2019-08-28 16:41:42, xpr wrote:
https://www.dxomark.com/sony-xperia-1-camera-review/

DXOMARK proves once again that their scoring system is based on manufacturer payments rather than camera assessment.

Those who pay directly or indirectly (indirectly = purchasing DXO's software) get the good results.

Pathetic to point that certain youtubers are more reliable than DXO.


And we always wonder why xperia phones score always appears late and low score, whereas Samsung and iPhone scores updated come released super shortly after they launch the sales of the phones. Exceptionally fi$hy and $u$piciou$ huh ~
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Posted: 2019-08-28 18:52
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I said couple weeks ago :

Early review = high score
Review few minutes after event = maybe new #1
Review months later = low score
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Posted: 2019-08-28 18:55
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On 2019-08-28 11:19:33, Hawk12 wrote:
Must be something else.
The phones listed to earn A10 are XZ2 series, XZ3 , X1, X10 and X10+.

91 pts rear.
78 pts selfie.

They dont like exposure nor colors.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-08-28 11:55 ]


That's odd. I remember the XZ1 being released with 8.0.
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Posted: 2019-08-28 20:43
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Xz1 was 8.0 out of box.
They will consider like it was 7.1, but updated few days later to 8.0.
Also XZP was 7.1.
Probably XZ3 stays with android 10.

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Posted: 2019-08-29 05:34
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Dxomark is just plain rubbish

They are always late to review sony phones and even miss out on reviewing some phones like xz2 premium

I remember z2 being the chart topper back in the day

The only site i refer to nowadays is gsmarena at least they are not so biased.

People should either read gsma reviews or watch YouTube videos to know the real performance of sony devices
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Posted: 2019-08-29 15:48
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On 2019-08-28 18:08:16, tai020381 wrote:

On 2019-08-28 16:41:42, xpr wrote:
https://www.dxomark.com/sony-xperia-1-camera-review/

DXOMARK proves once again that their scoring system is based on manufacturer payments rather than camera assessment.

Those who pay directly or indirectly (indirectly = purchasing DXO's software) get the good results.

Pathetic to point that certain youtubers are more reliable than DXO.


And we always wonder why xperia phones score always appears late and low score, whereas Samsung and iPhone scores updated come released super shortly after they launch the sales of the phones. Exceptionally fi$hy and $u$piciou$ huh ~



Huawei, Apple, Samsung, OnePlus are popular brands and get reviewed quickly as they should, while HTC, Sony, LG etc... are not so big and would not bring great readership.


Doesn’t really mean anything other than the fact that Sony are still doing an average job.
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Posted: 2019-08-29 17:16
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They say more popular devices have review done faster.
But Pixel is not popular, OP is not popular nor HTC.
All them have lower total sales than Sony.
Even U11 and U12 had review published few minutes after their events.

I refuse to believe X1 is worse than 2017 iphone 8 that has no zoom nor bokeh.
Or even device from Smartisan.

Z1 was #2 or #3 in 2013.
Z3 was #3 in 2014
Z5 was #1 in 2015
X Perf was #2 in 2016
XZ was #3 in 2016

Probably same people still work there.
Tons of coincidence the scores are low with new protocol.

They also say they take tons of photos, I doubt those they posted were the best ones.
Even Z series reviews have better samples.


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Posted: 2019-08-29 18:02
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On 2019-08-29 17:16:07, Hawk12 wrote:

Even Z series reviews have better samples.



That's also the fact.... I have photos from my Z1, Z3 that are far superior in quality to photos from my Xperia X and XZ....

Pixels and One plus are 1000 times more popular than sony these days... And I think the sooner the manufacturer sends their device to DXO, the sooner the review will come. If they don't send a phone to them then they will need to purchase one which is expensive to buy and difficult to source and that I think is the reason for late X1 review.
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