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XperiaJunkie
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Posted: 2017-07-21 16:39
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^ Sony put an 8mp selfie camera in the XA1, the new compact from what I believe is the same as compacts of old, 99% the same spec bar screen resolution and battery capacity as the normal sized flagship. Expect IP certification and top end CPU to make a return this year.
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LumberjackX
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Posted: 2017-07-21 20:07
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@kurtdean X Compact has 8MP front cam. I'd like to see 13 but I have no idea if it is physically possible.


Off topic : Just got 7.1.1 today for my Z3+. After 23 days.
My computer is not working well so I always wait OTA.
I guess this is its last update.
Android 8 comes next month, I do not think any Sony gets 7.1.2 ..

BTW, I've read XZP may get 8.0 in december.. I believe it will be earlier, same hardware of new phones.
They may come 8.0 !!!
[ This Message was edited by: LumberjackX on 2017-07-21 23:19 ]
kurtdean
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Posted: 2017-07-22 04:07
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Sorry I thought the x compact was using a 5mp front facing camera like on my z5 compact because the dimensions is almost the same. My bad currently using xperia x and couldn't be much happier. The performance is very snappy like using snap 820 and I got it at a very cheap price doesn't plan to upgrade atm
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Archdragoon
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Posted: 2017-07-22 09:16
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After reading this Distortion issues I'm unsure if SONY will try to fix customer's (including me) issues or not.

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LumberjackX
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Posted: 2017-07-22 10:47
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X and X Perf look great.

But X should have IP68 like M5. And X Perf the 4K recording.
Hybrid slot is bad too.
X would be great for my mother, but she needs dual + sd.

About the distortion, it happens to wider angle cameras.
If you guys really pay attention, Z phones have it too.
Usually doors and walls.

Archdragoon
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Posted: 2017-07-22 11:13
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Hey LumberjackX,

Actually the distortion on wide angle cameras doesn't similar to Xperia's distortion issues.

The wide angle camera usually show the Barrel distortion just like in this photo.



But the distortion on Xperia is very strange... Look at my dell monitor




[ This Message was edited by: Archdragoon on 2017-07-22 10:15 ]
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tonylcc
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Posted: 2017-07-22 11:51
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On 2017-07-22 09:16:09, Archdragoon wrote:
After reading this Distortion issues I'm unsure if SONY will try to fix customer's (including me) issues or not.





will see solution on new Xperia, and current IMX400 will got some fix after new Xperia came
saw on china website
Archdragoon
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Posted: 2017-07-22 11:52
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On 2017-07-22 11:51:31, tonylcc wrote:

On 2017-07-22 09:16:09, Archdragoon wrote:
After reading this Distortion issues I'm unsure if SONY will try to fix customer's (including me) issues or not.





will see solution on new Xperia, and current IMX400 will got some fix after new Xperia came
saw on china website


Would you mind share us the link ?
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tonylcc
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Posted: 2017-07-22 15:03
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On 2017-07-22 11:52:30, Archdragoon wrote:

On 2017-07-22 11:51:31, tonylcc wrote:

On 2017-07-22 09:16:09, Archdragoon wrote:
After reading this Distortion issues I'm unsure if SONY will try to fix customer's (including me) issues or not.





will see solution on new Xperia, and current IMX400 will got some fix after new Xperia came
saw on china website


Would you mind share us the link ?


https://m.weibo.cn/status/4130110255208907

just dont expect too much XD
Archdragoon
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Posted: 2017-07-22 15:48
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Damn, Google translate is suck.
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LumberjackX
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Posted: 2017-07-22 21:15
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I see distortions usually indoor photos.
Doors, walls. Depends on how close I am.
I gets better if I am not that close.

Some outdoor photos I see too .. Buildings or street lights.
But pretty rare.

Not sure if I understood what Sony has said.
Seems they want cam to work as wider and not wide same time.
Something like that.

Maybe not all units have it.. There are users with this issues and others without them.
Tech websites have articles on that but based on users affected.
Many sites have had the phone and did not notice..
Even GSMArena when compared XZP x i7+ x u11 says XZP was better in most shots.
On auto mainly.

About the Weibo conversation, even translated to english sounds very confusing.
All I can understand is a version of XZ1 might have 6GB ram + 128 storage.
Until XZs one team was in charged of cam software, since XZP other people.
Someone also says Sony should bring back Scenario for manual mode..

Scenario is very useful. The only way I can use 1s SS and low ISO together.
Only issue is damn 8MP only.

Other phones use low ISO when detect low light on auto, Sony phones try to reach 12800.
It is too high for most situations..

@archidragoon.... Does it happen to 4:3 too or only for 16:9 ?
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-XYZ
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Posted: 2017-07-22 21:22
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Wide angle lenses usually do suffer from either pincushion or barrel distortion for various reasons. Its usually easily corrected in post and most camera software can account for it. Building a totally distortion free super wide angle lens is hard, and really isn't worth the trouble in smartphones, so they probably just software correct it.
LumberjackX
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Posted: 2017-07-22 21:41
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Hi

I have found something else..
It seems that XZP red aka Rosso will be 6 + 128.
It might be a Docomo phone, also available in Taiwan.
It may arrive with XZ1.
Archdragoon
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Posted: 2017-07-23 01:10
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Hi LumberjackX,

it's happen to both aspect ratio.

The thing I dislike is the answer and response from SONY staff. While Samsung notice that their S7 has distortion issues they start develop the shape correction for their customer rather than talking nonsense like SONY staff.

Yes it's just like you said. It doesn't distort at the same level on every unit. I see that some unit is even bad than mine.
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LumberjackX
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Posted: 2017-07-23 02:56
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@arch

Let's hope it is something that can be fixed by software and not a physical issue.

There is a youtuber, he has XZs and XZP.
When phones boots up , top of screen has something like a white stripe, on the upper edge of screen.
It happens only when screen goes completely white.
My z3+ has it too. I guess it started after nougat.

Has anyone seen this on their phone?
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