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penguino
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Posted: 2015-09-04 18:08
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Z5 Compact Premium - yes please!
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Posted: 2015-09-04 19:59
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For Japan only (Docomo)
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Posted: 2015-09-04 20:01
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Sony Xperia Z5 Compact Premium for Japs only.... Why Sony ?
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Posted: 2015-09-04 21:35
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Exactly, Sony please bring it to Europe! That's what Z5 Compact should be!
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Posted: 2015-09-05 01:06
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On 2015-09-04 01:58:42, penguino wrote:

On 2015-09-03 23:54:07, blackzeros wrote:
samsung likes cheating , s6,note 5 ,edge and edge plus all works like in a stamina mode, aggressively killing closed apps
multitasking is worst like the devices with 1 gb ram....

Cheating in low power consumption at idle?

Multitasking has nothing to do with it. Poor multitasking is a result of two things - software tricks to increase smoothness (high RAM consumption at idle) and poor RAM management settings (you can change them in rooted devices to achieve much better multitasking experience).

On 2015-09-04 01:51:33, Supa_Fly wrote:
Becoming VERY interested in the Z5C ... Power in compact size. I don't think the next Nexus5X will satiate my 4.6-4.9" screen size limit and it's getting more and more difficult for me to keep at that. To be honest with top shelf specs of quality music playback and pictures it's either iPhone 5S 64GB (which I got as a gift yet need to repair heavily) or the Z5C which is sweet in Black.

Curious ... saw this hands on ... what is this sub-menu (dotted red to highlight by me) when viewing cards?
Link text...

Display size isn't everything. 4,7" device can be as big as some other 5" phone.

Small apps? I think all Xperia have it too.


Thanks.

@Goldenface, yeah I think I've found my next Android device, my first REAL everyday driver.
Also I've now bricked my second Android phone - 2 in 4wks! This one is the Nexus 4 16GB/Mako (this time power surge from Lenovo T440s via USB in docking station! Can you believe this?!!! Arrrgh. Never had such issues with phones before.


On 2015-09-04 15:55:50, blackzeros wrote:
why sony choses only 4 color option for z5c , test devices had another colors , i think especially green one is better then
other options...

http://www.static.xperiablog.[....]09/Sony-Xperia-Z5-family_1.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLtmyWsWIAEGTue.jpg:large

holly shit if it's true

z5 compact premium miku edition....

4,6 inch 1080p screen , 4 gb ram, 2900 mah battery , dims : 130*65*8,9 mm


[ This Message was edited by: blackzeros on 2015-09-04 16:16 ]



So it's YOU that has derailed this thread!

Guys any specific apps you can suggest for the Compact?
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Posted: 2015-09-05 04:03
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Eventually got a pic of notification led
[ This Message was edited by: cableguy on 2015-09-05 03:04 ]
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Posted: 2015-09-05 10:55
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This picture?
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Posted: 2015-09-05 19:39
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Yip that's the one,I like the big led on the z1 compact.
The one in z5 compact looks decent
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Posted: 2015-09-06 20:38
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Price cut!

http://www.digitaltrends.com/[....]japan-only-z5-compact-premium/

On September 3, the Xperia Z5 line of phones was listed on Sony’s U.K. online store: 549 pounds (about $833) for the Z5 Compact, 599 pounds (about $909) for the Z5, and 699 pounds (about $1,060) for the Z5 Premium. The next day, those prices were knocked down to 429 pounds (about $651) for the Z5 Compact, 549 pounds (about $833) for the Z5, and 629 pounds (about $954) for the Z5 Premium, as observed by uSwitch.com.
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Posted: 2015-09-07 06:05
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Sony Xperia Z5 Compact Vs Sony Z3 Compact - IFA 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBnOEBbbgqc
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Sony Xperia Z5 Compact Vs. Sony Xperia Z5 (Showfloor Comparison)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZZvXn6jEmk
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Posted: 2015-09-07 08:45
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On 2015-09-06 20:38:42, vivftp wrote:
Price cut!

http://www.digitaltrends.com/[....]japan-only-z5-compact-premium/

On September 3, the Xperia Z5 line of phones was listed on Sony’s U.K. online store: 549 pounds (about $833) for the Z5 Compact, 599 pounds (about $909) for the Z5, and 699 pounds (about $1,060) for the Z5 Premium. The next day, those prices were knocked down to 429 pounds (about $651) for the Z5 Compact, 549 pounds (about $833) for the Z5, and 629 pounds (about $954) for the Z5 Premium, as observed by uSwitch.com.



Sweet on the price cut, must be due to competition estimated pricing of the upcoming iPhone model to be announced in a few weeks. Still quite expensive on the Z5C pricing it should come down to about $599CA/$499US to make volume units in sales, which may lower their per unit profits but Volume is the game these days.

Volume:
Helps economies of scale, thus reducing costs for production, thus increasing profits per unit sales (think 2ND QTR profits)
Helps Brand Name Recognition (Marketing 101)!! A brand that is recognized is also the one that is sought out the most.
increase efforts for efficient customer service support lines. In other words lessen support hold music and times, allow users in 3mins or less to speak to an actual sales rep/support rep/licensed technician for issues!
Increase quality controls!!! This means LESS issues with ownership, less sales support rep calls for returns/repairs, LESS perception of the Brand Quality affecting quality perception. Remember Sony doesn't just make TV's, video games, and smartphones ... one brand perceived as poor quality affects ALL product sales and services!!!!!!!!

Profits (on initial release):
When pricing is too high vs exisiting entrants and increase competition, sure you get higher per unit profits, yet you don't have the volume to affect costs in your supply chain!! This affects YOU as a business (going-concern): Look at what has happened to HTC at the very core no change too high in retail pricing per region, lost volume sales.
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Posted: 2015-09-07 09:50
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On 2015-09-07 08:45:31, Supa_Fly wrote:

On 2015-09-06 20:38:42, vivftp wrote:
Price cut!

http://www.digitaltrends.com/[....]japan-only-z5-compact-premium/

On September 3, the Xperia Z5 line of phones was listed on Sony’s U.K. online store: 549 pounds (about $833) for the Z5 Compact, 599 pounds (about $909) for the Z5, and 699 pounds (about $1,060) for the Z5 Premium. The next day, those prices were knocked down to 429 pounds (about $651) for the Z5 Compact, 549 pounds (about $833) for the Z5, and 629 pounds (about $954) for the Z5 Premium, as observed by uSwitch.com.



Sweet on the price cut, must be due to competition estimated pricing of the upcoming iPhone model to be announced in a few weeks. Still quite expensive on the Z5C pricing it should come down to about $599CA/$499US to make volume units in sales, which may lower their per unit profits but Volume is the game these days.

Volume:
Helps economies of scale, thus reducing costs for production, thus increasing profits per unit sales (think 2ND QTR profits)
Helps Brand Name Recognition (Marketing 101)!! A brand that is recognized is also the one that is sought out the most.
increase efforts for efficient customer service support lines. In other words lessen support hold music and times, allow users in 3mins or less to speak to an actual sales rep/support rep/licensed technician for issues!
Increase quality controls!!! This means LESS issues with ownership, less sales support rep calls for returns/repairs, LESS perception of the Brand Quality affecting quality perception. Remember Sony doesn't just make TV's, video games, and smartphones ... one brand perceived as poor quality affects ALL product sales and services!!!!!!!!

Profits (on initial release):
When pricing is too high vs exisiting entrants and increase competition, sure you get higher per unit profits, yet you don't have the volume to affect costs in your supply chain!! This affects YOU as a business (going-concern): Look at what has happened to HTC at the very core no change too high in retail pricing per region, lost volume sales.


Why is it only Sony have to lower their prices in order to reach higher volume?
The iPhone 6 16GB costs 150 USD more. No one seems to complain really.
Sony need to really show the North American people that they mean business and put bilboard ads here and there and appear a lot more often in bigger events.
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Posted: 2015-09-07 10:00
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Price cut is a UK only deal for now, don't expect any other country to follow. The prices should fall slowly once the device is released, always the case for android devices.

The biggest issue is not the price but the availability, it takes too long for Sony to get their devices to market. 3-4 weeks may not be long for some people. but somehow apple is able to announce a phone and have it ship pretty quickly soon after.
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Posted: 2015-09-08 03:57
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I think it's quite common that you have to wait before new phone physically enters the market. There's nothing wrong with it unless it takes too long (over a month or something).

@Supa_Fly
I think you're wrong. On this market volume doesn't really mean profit. There many more variables and price cut is not enough to increase the volume. What it does for sure is that it decreases the profit. With chinese manufacturers being more and more aggressive you just can't compete with the price, it doesn't work. You need a proper device and good marketing strategy, then you can reach more volume even at regular price. Flagship buyers can easily spend $100 or even $150 more (S6 edge is a good example) when you make them feel that it's worth it. And that means profit. That's what Sony fails to do.
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